Clearing the confusion Naruto+ Kurama > Sasuke + Itachi's eyes

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Lol bro would Sasuke be sasuke without Naruto?
Sasuke would still be at his 2 tomoe sharingan without Naruto :L
 

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This is getting old you know. They both used given powers.

Its useless to try and paint part 1 Naruto anything other than the hardworking underdog. He was never a prodigy like Sasuke.

Not saying he wasnt hardworking. read the OP. I'm saying that nothing compares to naruto's usage of kurama's power
 

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Naruto doesnt get his chakra pool from kyuubi.

Sasuke's been using curse mark since he got it he trained in it way more than Naruto did with the fox because his power doesnt try and kill him or take him over.

You seriously cant sit here and downplay how many times Sasukes used curse mark.
Training is very different from dependancy bro. Sasuke used the curse-seal to win fights fewer times than Naruto relied on Kurama for the same thing. We're not talking about number of times used here we're talking about number of times the power was used to win a fight and Naruto clearly outclasses sasuke in this

And how does the content of your op reflect the title?

Naruto + Kurama > Sasuke + Itachi's eyes where dependency and need on the power is concerned
 

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Sasuke wasn;t biologically born to awaken a sharingan, no Uchiha was born to awaken a sharingan over time, it just awakens when they experience pain, If sasuke didn't get ****ed up by 1 tailed naruto he wouldn't have awakened his 3rd tomoe meaning everything he awakens in the future is void, without Naruto sasuke aint shit. Nobody cares about part 1 naruto or sasuke because we get the story of Naruto and sasuke, they're reincarnations of Indra and Ashura but Naruto is the prophecy, without the kuruma kishi would've still made a story where Naruto has enough power to beat sasuke.
 

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Naruto wouldn't be naruto without the fox, he was born with it why are you trying to take away something from the main character bro? Thats like me saying what if Sasuke was a hyuga he would still own, I must be smacked as hell to say some dumb shit like that

:lol Naruto wasn't born with the fox genius, it was sealed into him after birth. Nothing else you tried to use as an example applies because it's an unrelated case and therefore irrelevant
 

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"Training is very different from dependancy bro. Sasuke used the curse-seal to win fights fewer times than Naruto relied on Kurama for the same thing. We're not talking about number of times used here we're talking about number of times the power was used to win a fight and Naruto clearly outclasses sasuke in this"
How many times was Sasuke saved in a fight in the anime from death? Obito saved this man multiple times
Yes Naruto needs the fox chakara, wtf do you expect the fox is living inside of him and it gives him power. But you're so backwards you want Naruto to deny this power and get ****ed up right lol, thats like me saying Obito should've just let sasuke get killed by Danzo, Deidera, and the 5 kages right?
 

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Bro naruto's mother is the jin for the fox right? so wtf were they suppose to do with the fox when obito released the seal 0.0 are you on drugs tonight you mustve not seen the first episode of naruto
 

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Training is very different from dependancy bro. Sasuke used the curse-seal to win fights fewer times than Naruto relied on Kurama for the same thing. We're not talking about number of times used here we're talking about number of times the power was used to win a fight and Naruto clearly outclasses sasuke in this



Naruto + Kurama > Sasuke + Itachi's eyes where dependency and need on the power is concerned

Sasuke needs Itachis eyes to see(his choice). Naruto needs Kurama to live(not his choice). Without either gifts neither can fight. Thats the dependancy.

Once Naruto fought and trained to control his gift that all changed. Sasuke whole style depended heavily on Curse Mark. Without it he was basic Sasuke.
 

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Lol bro would Sasuke be sasuke without Naruto?
Sasuke would still be at his 2 tomoe sharingan without Naruto :L
Yes Sasuke was sasuke without Naruto because dude just couldn't be respectful to Sasuke descisions to get revenge. The rest of what you said isn't worth a response lol try harder kid
I miss my Naruto avatar tbh.
Does it have a six Pack?
Sasuke wasn;t biologically born to awaken a sharingan, no Uchiha was born to awaken a sharingan over time, it just awakens when they experience pain, If sasuke didn't get ****ed up by 1 tailed naruto he wouldn't have awakened his 3rd tomoe meaning everything he awakens in the future is void, without Naruto sasuke aint shit. Nobody cares about part 1 naruto or sasuke because we get the story of Naruto and sasuke, they're reincarnations of Indra and Ashura but Naruto is the prophecy, without the kuruma kishi would've still made a story where Naruto has enough power to beat sasuke.

Lmao re-read the Manga. They are biologically born to awaken the Sharingan and Tobirama explained why and in detail too, it's not magic there is actually common sense behind it. The bold is a cringe worthy assumption lmao if Naruto could have been just as strong and made it that far without Kurama he wouldn't have needed to rely on his power at any time so the only thing you just did was indirectly proved my point and this thread
 

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Bro you're clearly confused because you're acting as if Naruto shouldn't be praised because he's depending on the chakara thats inside of him 0.o, Here is a manga fact, Naruto and Sasuke are reincarnations of Indra and Ashura just like Madara and Hashirama, Hashirama didn't have any jin in him but he beat Madara and fought 4 tailed beast and an army at the same time. Where did this power come from? From being a reincarnation of Ashura, so if Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura, why would he not use the jin inside of him if he can't use mokuton?
 

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Enough of this Naruto aint shit without kyuubi or Naruto depended on kyuubi crap, why wouldn't he lmao sasuke emo fans angry because Sasuke said he lost to Naruto, now their like why Naruto so ****ing strong, he shouldn't even be this strong, what if he never had the fox, why does he depend on the fox all the time, sasuke never depended on anything he worked his way to top, lmao stop sucking sasukes ****
 

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"Training is very different from dependancy bro. Sasuke used the curse-seal to win fights fewer times than Naruto relied on Kurama for the same thing. We're not talking about number of times used here we're talking about number of times the power was used to win a fight and Naruto clearly outclasses sasuke in this"
How many times was Sasuke saved in a fight in the anime from death? Obito saved this man multiple times
Yes Naruto needs the fox chakara, wtf do you expect the fox is living inside of him and it gives him power. But you're so backwards you want Naruto to deny this power and get ****ed up right lol, thats like me saying Obito should've just let sasuke get killed by Danzo, Deidera, and the 5 kages right?

Bro naruto's mother is the jin for the fox right? so wtf were they suppose to do with the fox when obito released the seal 0.0 are you on drugs tonight you mustve not seen the first episode of naruto


Bro you're clearly confused because you're acting as if Naruto shouldn't be praised because he's depending on the chakara thats inside of him 0.o, Here is a manga fact, Naruto and Sasuke are reincarnations of Indra and Ashura just like Madara and Hashirama, Hashirama didn't have any jin in him but he beat Madara and fought 4 tailed beast and an army at the same time. Where did this power come from? From being a reincarnation of Ashura, so if Naruto is the reincarnation of Ashura, why would he not use the jin inside of him if he can't use mokuton?


Are you KingHashirama's Alt? Anyway all of this is besides the point that Naruto was more dependent. Why he was has nothing to do with the fact that he was.
Sasuke needs Itachis eyes to see(his choice). Naruto needs Kurama to live(not his choice). Without either gifts neither can fight. Thats the dependancy.

Once Naruto fought and trained to control his gift that all changed. Sasuke whole style depended heavily on Curse Mark. Without it he was basic Sasuke.
You can't really compare them like that because Naruto more needed Kurama to fight than to live because Kurama was never going to escape anyway, there were already measures in place for That. Naruto was never scared of the fact that he would die from using the power he was just against using the power in general despite relying on it anyway.

Naruto controlling the kyuubi just made it easier for fans to say that it became apart of Naruto's power because prior to tht it was always referred to as Kurama's now and now it's referred to as Naruto's power.

At the bold that's not true. Sasuke didn't have to alter his fighting style beause of the curse mark it simply added more power, speed ect. to his performance in general. The kyuubi has a different effect that results in more extreme forms that dominate anything basic naruto was capable of on his own. Naruto's reliance was heavier based on his dependancy on kurama to win a fight
 

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A sentence for those who really think :
Sasuke had weaker power-ups than Naruto ; but it's still 4-1 .
Done here
 

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Sasuke fans, desperate and insecure as always, lmao
 

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I could easily counter all of this and the above troll.

However the bait is too weak. :sdo:

Fk wot Dub' talking about... Hebi negged & negs :kk:

EDIT: u mad as usual
 

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Are you KingHashirama's Alt? Anyway all of this is besides the point that Naruto was more dependent. Why he was has nothing to do with the fact that he was.

You can't really compare them like that because Naruto more needed Kurama to fight than to live because Kurama was never going to escape anyway, there were already measures in place for That. Naruto was never scared of the fact that he would die from using the power he was just against using the power in general despite relying on it anyway.

Naruto controlling the kyuubi just made it easier for fans to say that it became apart of Naruto's power because prior to tht it was always referred to as Kurama's now and now it's referred to as Naruto's power.

At the bold that's not true. Sasuke didn't have to alter his fighting style beause of the curse mark it simply added more power, speed ect. to his performance in general. The kyuubi has a different effect that results in more extreme forms that dominate anything basic naruto was capable of on his own. Naruto's reliance was heavier based on his dependancy on kurama to win a fight

"Basic sasuke" was worthy og the strongest sannin's attention... lol

Y'all make it real hard to replace naruto lol

Ty & m'Lord Crow solos u fave
 

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....Bruh I've seen debates where people brought up itachi giving his power to him, and naruto's are his own too, TBFRS? A tailed beast ball rasenshuriken is HIS technique stop going full retard

The nardo fans probably appreciate your title tho

Itachi didn't give Sasuke his techniques. People are just dumb
 

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Can someone explain how Part 1 Naruto surpassed Part 1 Sasuke?

In the Haku and Zabuza saga at this time Sasukw had more jutsu, taijutsu, skills, etc than Naruto but when Naruto use Kurama chakra for 1st time he is stronger than Sasuke.

In the Chunnin Exam when Naruto has no access to kurama chakra, somehow has way more chakra than Sasuke.

Naruto trains to use Kurama chakra at will and summoning jutsu, while Sasuke trains in taijutsu and Chidori.

How is it Naruto surpassed Sasuke in Part 1 so easy? Even Sasuke admits being weaker than Naruto.

In early part 2 is reverse, somehow Sasuke greatly surpass Naruto, even though Sasuke didn't use his CM, even though Naruto wasn't at 100, Naruto admited being weaker than Sasuke.

When I come home from work I post the proof.

Part 1 Sasuke admitting being weaker than Naruto was afterword Gaara attack, but before Sasukw meeting Itachi.

Part 2 Naruto admitted being weaker than Sasuke after his defeat against Sasuke and his team, but before Rasenshuriken training.

I hope that helps.
 
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