[Discussion] Chrollo vs Pitou

[Haizaki]

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There were no underestimation at all. He was clearly weaker at that point. He became stronger later on, and eventhen it wasn't really a one-shot. He only pushed him/her out of the way to avoid any conflict and useless fight that could cost him before reaching the King

The mere fact that colt judged by just looking at his "aura" when Morel already told Killua not to judge by that is wrong.
Pitou already used terpsichora and she got easily hit without being able to tell where the attack was going to come from. Nothing in her arsenal can bypass Netero's defense.
100 bodhistava, ninety nine hand and zero hand destroys Pitou. She doesn't have the durability that the king possesses. Not even the king could easily get past it and he pushed the king that far. Pitou gets smashed to the ground.

 

[Bogard]

The mere fact that colt judged by just looking at his "aura" when Morel already told Killua not to judge by that is wrong.
Pitou already used terpsichora and she got easily hit without being able to tell where the attack was going to come from. Nothing in her arsenal can bypass Netero's defense.
100 bodhistava, ninety nine hand and zero hand destroys Pitou. She doesn't have the durability that the king possesses. Not even the king could easily get past it and he pushed the king that far. Pitou gets smashed to the ground.

1- Netero said Pitou was stronger than him
2- Netero is the one who wanted to be compared to the King via his aura and Colt only replied to him using the same judgement that he is weaker than the bodyguards

I gave you 2 different manga scans depicting Netero as weaker, yet you still want to deny manga canon?

The purpose of Netero's attack isn't to be seen easily. Even the King couldn't see it the first time it was used. He only adapted to it with time and you have no way to know Neferpitou wouldn't have as well. So Neferpitou getting hit by an attack not supposed to be seen doesn't prove he/she is weaker. He/She was only pushed aside by the attack. Neferpitou wasn't even damaged one bit. The purpose of the attack was to delay Neferpitou. Netero knew fighting bodyguards directly would be hard. It's for that reason he called for reinforcement(Zeno) to use round-about tactics to occupy the bodyguards and confront the King alone

And by the way the king didn't even use nen during his entire fight against Netero

 

[Haizaki]

1- Netero said Pitou was stronger than him
2- Netero is the one who wanted to be compared to the King via his aura and Colt only replied to him using the same judgement that he is weaker than the bodyguards

I gave you 2 different manga scans depicting Netero as weaker, yet you still want to deny manga canon?

The purpose of Netero's attack isn't to be seen easily. Even the King couldn't see it the first time it was used. He only adapted to it with time and you have no way to know Neferpitou wouldn't have as well. So Neferpitou getting hit by an attack not supposed to be seen doesn't prove he/she is weaker. He/She was only pushed aside by the attack. Neferpitou wasn't even damaged one bit. The purpose of the attack was to delay Neferpitou. Netero knew fighting bodyguards directly would be hard. It's for that reason he called for reinforcement(Zeno) to use round-about tactics to occupy the bodyguards and confront the King alone

And by the way the king didn't even use nen during his entire fight against Netero

Lol No one is denying manga cannon except you. Lolz not to mention Colt said Most likely won't make it before you're killed by "one" of the royal guards. So don't jump into your own conclusion. Manga already showed you that Netero easily took care of Pitou and disproved what Colt said "Most likely you won't make it to the king before you're killed by one of the Royal guards"

I have no way to know that Pitou won't be able to do what the King did when he was attacked? Lol Please stop. Pitou hasn't shown movements that suggest she can so of course I won't come to a conclusion that she can. The king displayed high speed but did you forget he was hit by the first and third hand first before Ninety nine hands? I'm not even talking Zero hand. Lol not to mention Tephsicora increases her agiltity and enhances her physically and she used that against Netero but she was still hit with his attack and sent flying so far that she had to resort to Doctor blythe and you expect me to believe Pitou can handle or bypass attacks faster than that?
Pitou easily dismissed was more of an insult to her. Lol what makes us believe that she can do anything against stronger attacks? Nothing at all. The author never suggested so. Pitou hit by an attack which she couldn't see means she can't do anything about it since the Netero's attacks are unpredictable due to his quiet aura flow. There's nothing pitou can do about it when Netero is faster than the King himself with his attacks

Reinforcements? Please explain Zeno's involvement in Pitou's disposal or his involvement in Netero's fight. He was brought there in order for no one to interfere with Netero's fight against the King. The king is stronger than Pitou but Zeno didn't join Netero in battling the King. So why would Zeno want to help the king fight Pitou?

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. The king's ability is to consume and get stronger. That's is all there is to it. Meruem said to himself Netero is faster

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and said Netero is a better weapon than Him. Thinking Pitou wins is just funny to me.
Thinking the king wasn't going all out is just a joke.

 

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Pitou stomps.

Netero stated that Pitou was stronger than even himself.

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[Bogard]

Lol No one is denying manga cannon except you. Lolz not to mention Colt said Most likely won't make it before you're killed by "one" of the royal guards. So don't jump into your own conclusion.

I don't see the point of bolding that. "One" of the bodyguards means any of them could kill him

Manga already showed you that Netero easily took care of Pitou and disproved what Colt said "Most likely you won't make it to the king before you're killed by one of the Royal guards"

No it didn't. It only showed Netero pushing her back and you jumped in the conclusion that he took her out. The manga already said plenty of times that all Netero was doing was trying his all to seperate the bodyguards from the King

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He knew fighting them directly would be hard and in the worse case of scenario could die even before making it to the King

I have no way to know that Pitou won't be able to do what the King did when he was attacked? Lol Please stop. Pitou hasn't shown movements that suggest she can so of course I won't come to a conclusion that she can. The king displayed high speed but did you forget he was hit by the first and third hand first before Ninety nine hands? I'm not even talking Zero hand. Lol not to mention Tephsicora increases her agiltity and enhances her physically and she used that against Netero but she was still hit with his attack and sent flying so far that she had to resort to Doctor blythe and you expect me to believe Pitou can handle or bypass attacks faster than that?

Of course you don't considering we only see a little skirmich between the 2, not an extended fight. Even the King was surprised by the attack the first time, doesn't mean he couldn't counter it later on in the manga. So because Neferpitou had trouble to understand his move one time doesn't mean it would have remained the same. Take a note that said attack is supposed to be invisible, yet Neferpitou still managed to catch a glimpse of it, block and remain completely unaffected after being hit by it, no damage. If one punch does no damage, what makes you confident that more will? Even the King himself who hit her with full intent to kill could barely damage her. Even Adult Gon(with an aura reaching the King) needed countless JaJanken just to crush her skull

You're severely underestimating Pitou's durability. If one punch of Netero's attack couldn't even harm her, where is your proof she would be harm by more?

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So he used his most dangerous move just to delay Pitou and it did no damage at all

And are you serious concerning Pitou's speed? Did you forget how fast she managed to rip apart Kite's arm kilometers away? Did you forget how fast she managed to catch up to Netero and Zeno despite them having a considerable lead few minutes earlier, all that in one jump?

Pitou easily dismissed was more of an insult to her. Lol what makes us believe that she can do anything against stronger attacks? Nothing at all.

You're just making fanfiction now. Once again, Pitou took no damage from that attack. The most it could do was to push her aside. There was no difference between taking a hit from a baby

The author never suggested so. Pitou hit by an attack which she couldn't see means she can't do anything about it since the Netero's attacks are unpredictable due to his quiet aura flow. There's nothing pitou can do about it when Netero is faster than the King himself with his attacks

Actually she could see the attack, only that she couldn't understand why the attack was coming from below and like i've said even the King couldn't understand it at first because it's a technique easy to grasp the first time you see it and you've no proof that in a longer fight(other than a skirmich), the opponent can't adapt to the hand speed like the King did. It's exactly like how Morel and Knuckle after being surprised by Sheetle's speed could rapidely adapt to his speed during the fight, so once again basing a supposed superiority because of a hit happening during a little skirmich is completely baseless

Reinforcements? Please explain Zeno's involvement in Pitou's disposal or his involvement in Netero's fight. He was brought there in order for no one to interfere with Netero's fight against the King. The king is stronger than Pitou but Zeno didn't join Netero in battling the King. So why would Zeno want to help the king fight Pitou?

Read above. Zeno was brought up to help to seperate the King from his bodyguards. Zeno didn't join in battling the King because Netero was prepared to use his bomb that could kill anyone kilometers around. Netero knew he was weaker from the start and prepared himself to die in that battle

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. The king's ability is to consume and get stronger. That's is all there is to it. Meruem said to himself Netero is faster

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and said Netero is a better weapon than Him. Thinking Pitou wins is just funny to me.
Thinking the king wasn't going all out is just a joke.

Well the entire fight was consisting in the king trying to checkmate Netero without killing intent, so obviously he wasn't taking him seriously. I know it's hard for you to accept Netero's weakness because of his hype since the beginning of the manga as a chairman but it's how he was portrayed during that Chimera Ant Saga. I myself wanted to believe he was stronger, but he was portrayed weaker and i can't do anything about it, other than accepting it.

And i even gave him the benefit of doubt to have become stronger than the bodyguards when he fought the King, despite it being illogical and contradicting the manga, but the fact you claim he was so vastly stronger than them is what i'm defending against here because we don't even know for sure he is stronger than them in the first place, let alone vastly stronger. You're writting fanfictions, seconds by seconds

 

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People really have a hard time interpreting and understanding. Everyone says that Netero said Pitou is stronger but that is far for the truth...Netero asked himself is Pitou stronger. I guess everyone missed the punctuation known as the question mark. Even if Netero thought that Pitou was stronger than him at that point doesnt mean Chrollo doesnt stand a chance. Netero also stated He felt Morel and Knov were as strong as him...Well that would mean Chrollo demolishes that Netero based on the obvious fact that a non trying Chrollo stalemated with Zeno and Silva both risking their lives to kill him as he only tried to take their powers...None of this is evidence to say that Chrollo gets destroyed by Pitou, unless you think Knov and Morel are as strong as Zeno and Silva. If anything it suggest that Chrollo destroys Pitou based on everyone's logic here, but that is also false.

With all that being said, I rank Chrollo higher than Pitou and think he would win due to the fact I cant see Pitou defeating Silva and Zeno or stale mating them like Chrollo did. Pitou received wounds from Kite who only had 1 arm. Silva and Zeno are both stronger than Kite based on hype and what's been shown thus far.

 

[Bogard]

Actually later on, Knov and Morel said he wasn't serious when he said that and that he was still stronger than them. The problem with Pitou however is that it has been stated to be stronger than Netero multiple times(3 times as far as i remember) by Killua, by Colt and even by Netero himself.

Knov himself that you're trying to take as a judgement almost went comatose just by feeling a glimpse of Pitou's aura. Knuckle said that Youpi's aura is 10times bigger than Morel's, so i don't get why you people try so hard to ignore a mangafact when the author of the manga tried his all to put it in our head that the royal guards were above Netero's league at least at that moment

And btw, Zeno said he would have won 1vs1 against Chrollo if he continued to hold back and that in a all-out fight, it would have been another story, implying that both characters were in a similar league, yet Zeno was inferior to Netero who himself was inferior to the bodyguards

 

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Pitou was stronger than pre training Netero.
Post training Netero rapes him.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Actually later on, Knov and Morel said he wasn't serious when he said that and that he was still stronger than them. The problem with Pitou however is that it has been stated to be stronger than Netero multiple times(3 times as far as i remember) by Killua, by Colt and even by Netero himself.

Knov himself that you're trying to take as a judgement almost went comatose just by feeling a glimpse of Pitou's aura. Knuckle said that Youpi's aura is 10times bigger than Morel's, so i don't get why you people try so hard to ignore a mangafact when the author of the manga tried his all to put it in our head that the royal guards were above Netero's league at least at that moment

And btw, Zeno said he would have won 1vs1 against Chrollo if he continued to hold back and that in a all-out fight, it would have been another story, implying that both characters were in a similar league, yet Zeno was inferior to Netero who himself was inferior to the bodyguards

"it has been stated to be stronger than Netero multiple times(3 times as far as i remember) by Killua, by Colt and even by Netero himself. " Just because a character states their opinion in the manga doesn't make it manga fact. Every character in HxH could have said Netero was weaker than Pitou but Togashi showed through his artwork that Netero was/is always stronger than Pitou. "yet Zeno was inferior to Netero who himself was inferior to the bodyguards" If he was treally weaker than the guards do you think he'd have reached the king so easily and done as much in their fight as he did? Pitou only had a chance against him, maybe, when he first got there.

Knov says being as strong as them two(Morel and Knov) is enough to beat Pitou, does that make it fact?

 

[Haizaki]

Lol sorry for the late reply bogard. My internet was down for a while. You would get yours soon enough Lmaoo

 

[Haizaki]

I don't see the point of bolding that. "One" of the bodyguards means any of them could kill him

- Any of them could kill meaning Pitou, Pouf and Youpi as well which shows he was just talking based on Aura because anyone watching /reading this Manga knows Pouf and Youpi can't win against Netero

-You ignored the fact that he said "Most Likely". What does that mean? It's uncertain but with higher probability of it happening. This further shows that his point was based on Aura. I've already told you what Morel said about that which is pretty clear.

-Netero didn't say Pitou was stronger. He questioned if she was. He also said Knov and Morel were stronger than him as well which was false. You act like the manga clarifies what you're saying when it doesn't. Combat fight is different from aura. Morel has said this already. Killua was afraid of rammot because he doubts he could win after rammot learned Nen. What gave him that doubt?

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He assumed he was stronger and why did he? His aura most likely since Killua encountered him before and won but when his Nen became strong

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, Killua opted not to face him cuz he believed he couldn't win. Killua still won with ease.

No it didn't. It only showed Netero pushing her back and you jumped in the conclusion that he took her out. The manga already said plenty of times that all Netero was doing was trying his all to seperate the bodyguards from the King

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He knew fighting them directly would be hard and in the worse case of scenario could die even before making it to the King

The more I read this the more I laugh. How you came to this is too funny. He disposed of her with a much weaker attack than the ones he used against the King.

You think this makes sense? He encountered Pitou and took her on. Whose fault was it that she was sent flying away so far that doctor blythe when summoned has been noted not to move from one spot took a lot to stop her flying away.
Again that's you trying to contradict the Manga. He was afraid to take the RG on because he could die but yet he took the King on who's far stronger? False.
He wanted to separate them because he didn't want anyone interfering with his fight against the king. He didn't want to take all of them on at once with the King as well.

Of course you don't considering we only see a little skirmich between the 2, not an extended fight. Even the King was surprised by the attack the first time, doesn't mean he couldn't counter it later on in the manga. So because Neferpitou had trouble to understand his move one time doesn't mean it would have remained the same. Take a note that said attack is supposed to be invisible, yet Neferpitou still managed to catch a glimpse of it, block and remain completely unaffected after being hit by it, no damage. If one punch does no damage, what makes you confident that more will? Even the King himself who hit her with full intent to kill could barely damage her. Even Adult Gon(with an aura reaching the King) needed countless JaJanken just to crush her skull

And why wasn't it an extended fight? because she was disposed of with ease. The king took time to counter because of his durability and repeated attacks which led him to know the mechanics behind it. Not to mention his games with Komugi which helped

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. The king has displayed high intelligence which far surpasses Pitou as shown when he easily won other games against the top best. Pitou doesn't possess such speed, intelligence and durability considering the king was still alive after minature rose. Not to mention several times he was hit even when he saw it coming and still couldn't tell it was behind him after finding how KH works. So even when he knew about it, he said the attack was faster than him. That makes it hard to dodge. He kept taking heavy blows from it. Twice he was hit from the start but he couldn't dodge but rather he took the hits countless times.

Lol I hope you're joking. The author said Pitou fought Netero with full strength but even so

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Netero countered with ease. What else would convince people that she had more to offer when at full strength she was easily dealt with.

Pitou caught a glimpse after the attack hit her. As simple as that. She wasn't able to react or tell where it could come from before it hit her. Not to mention Netero was above her and yet she was hit from below directly

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. Who wouldn't be able to catch a glimpse of that? She got hit and then said it came from below after she was hit from that direction already. What's hard or special about that?

Why don't you understand that it was a weaker attack compared to what was used against the King. He never used that attack against the King. Unless you want to say Pitou is also stronger that the king. She took one of that but was sent far away to the point that Netero could go and meet the king. If it was a "baby attack", why didn't she easily counter and stop them from approaching the king.

Adult Gon broke through her skull means what? You don't have to break her skull to kill her. There are several other ways. Adult Gon was releasing his anger on her.

She was damaged by the King but wasn't sent flying. The point is she was damaged. Just because fodders got easily killed by it doesn't mean because she wasn't flying makes it amazing. Pouf was sent flying but wasn't badly damaged. If she was damaged by that at least, What would Zero hand do? Loool Not to mention KH would damage her a lot.

You're severely underestimating Pitou's durability. If one punch of Netero's attack couldn't even harm her, where is your proof she would be harm by more?

Lol that was a weak attack compared to the others. She's durable but not durable enough to tank stronger attacks like zero hand.

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This is what he did to someone far more durable than Pitou. Someone who was still alive after minature rose. Not to mention Zero hand is from behind. Pitou can't do a thing about it

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And we talk about Netero's most dangerous attack according to Zeno:

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This is the part that tell me you're desperately grasping at straws Lol. Zeno never said that was his strongest attack. Hyakushiki kannon. Why don't you look that up before concluding. You obviously don't know what it is. How you came to that is just too funny. They asked Zeno in that same scan about Netero's secret and he said his strongest move was probably HK and you're coming to your own conclusion. So out of text.

So he used his most dangerous move just to delay Pitou and it did no damage at all

Already dealt with and proved this is wrong.

And are you serious concerning Pitou's speed? Did you forget how fast she managed to rip apart Kite's arm kilometers away? Did you forget how fast she managed to catch up to Netero and Zeno despite them having a considerable lead few minutes earlier, all that in one jump?

How fast she ripped Kaito's arm? Smh stop this. Gon and Killua were the reason that happened which was shown by the manga

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. That's not all that. She used Terischopa of course but it still didn't save her from Netero's attack. This further proves that she's not fast enough to bypass his HK due to her being at her extreme best but still hit with ease with a weaker attack.

You're just making fanfiction now. Once again, Pitou took no damage from that attack. The most it could do was to push her aside. There was no difference between taking a hit from a baby

Fanfiction or your lack of understanding what happened? A baby attack that caused her to summon DB since it doesn't move from a spot and even with that, she struggled to still keep her self intact.

Actually she could see the attack, only that she couldn't understand why the attack was coming from below and like i've said even the King couldn't understand it at first because it's a technique easy to grasp the first time you see it and you've no proof that in a longer fight(other than a skirmich), the opponent can't adapt to the hand speed like the King did. It's exactly like how Morel and Knuckle after being surprised by Sheetle's speed could rapidely adapt to his speed during the fight, so once again basing a supposed superiority because of a hit happening during a little skirmich is completely baseless

Funny. She could see the attack but couldn't dodge it or rather she got hit by the attack which enabled her to know where it was coming from. You yourself have no proof. Why don't you read this

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Pitou couldn't keep up with his movements. What's easy to grasp? Do we read this same manga. Stop comparing pitou to the king. Even with her six sense sharpened to their limits she couldn't do a thing about it

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. The king is on a different level in terms of intelligence and finding the trick behind things and you think Pitou is on his level? Things complex for the RG such as Pouf could easily be figured out by the King easily

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. He could easily defeat world champions in their fields within a day or less in tactical games with ease

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and He pushed Komugi to a different level to a stage where she could awaken nen due to playing against him even though he just started playing.
Your comparison is funny. KH is faster and Pitou doesn't or at least hasn't shown intelligence that suggest she would discover the trick behind it before she's killed. It took the King quite a ( someone who's extremely intelligent) a long while after being hit by first, third, and ninety nine hands to discover it. Thousands of hits were thrown which cause him at least pain

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due to his incredible durability and his gungi game with komugi. Even with that, he still couldn't do anything about Zero hand even after he seemingly discovered the other ones. He took a lot of damage from it still.

Even with that, the king could land only a lucky punch and he said komugi was what helped him

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As for the cheetu part, I hope you're joking?You just compared that situation to The king's? It took Knuckle and Morel within minutes to get used to him and how long did it take the king? Not to mention that was a 2v1 with Moerel using his smoke screen and Cheetu's anger blinding him

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. They used a smoke clone before they could land a hit on him. Did you forget that too? Netero's attack is irrelevant to this. Komugi was what helped

Read above. Zeno was brought up to help to seperate the King from his bodyguards. Zeno didn't join in battling the King because Netero was prepared to use his bomb that could kill anyone kilometers around. Netero knew he was weaker from the start and prepared himself to die in that battle

Lol who's coming up with stuff now? It does make sense that Zeno didn't take part in that because of the bomb but where's the proof? His job was to help separate the king from the RG. That means he would have fought the RG if they tried to interfere because that was his job. Netero tried to fight the king himself. That was the plan. How do you know it was because of the bomb? That's an assumption. Not to mention Netero just wanted a one on one and had no idea the king would want to change locations. Unless you want to come up with an idea on how he knew the King would want that. The location would have been one with people there. It doesn't matter because the king just wanted a one on one. As simple as that. There's no proof about the bomb part even if it does makes sense.

Well the entire fight was consisting in the king trying to checkmate Netero without killing intent, so obviously he wasn't taking him seriously. I know it's hard for you to accept Netero's weakness because of his hype since the beginning of the manga as a chairman but it's how he was portrayed during that Chimera Ant Saga. I myself wanted to believe he was stronger, but he was portrayed weaker and i can't do anything about it, other than accepting it.

Lol You said he didn't use Nen but now you're jumping into something else. Initially he did say he would fight to defeat without killing but are you saying that's the reason he couldn't easily figure the trick behind KH?

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. He even said Netero is a better weapon than he is

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. Automatically puts him above Pitou . He just kept admiring Netero. Without komugi, it would have been a different situation. It got to a point where he was struggling. Killing intent wouldn't change a thing if he struggled to bypass KH like that when he was noting how Netero was fast enough to land attacks faster than him and the king couldn't even lay a scratch after thousands of hits

And i even gave him the benefit of doubt to have become stronger than the bodyguards when he fought the King, despite it being illogical and contradicting the manga, but the fact you claim he was so vastly stronger than them is what i'm defending against here because we don't even know for sure he is stronger than them in the first place, let alone vastly stronger. You're writting fanfictions, seconds by seconds

Lol he was stronger that's the point. It's not by a wide margin but he's for sure stronger than them with Pitou being the greatest challenge.

I hope you know Netero didn't say Pitou was stronger than him? He questioned if she was and the fact that he said Morel and Knov were also stronger proves this wrong as they themselves disagreed.
Killua out of fear went to his own conclusion due to Aura and Morel debunked this.

 

[Loki d]

Wasn't it stated that Pitou had the greatest En the glowy red stuff that surrounds the base and not Nen, People are dumb for saying Pitou is on Netero's level I think she can't even beat Zeno so I give to Chrollo for the win

 

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Pitou is faster, stronger, and more durable than Chrollo. Add in her Trepshicora which makes her stronger and faster. She also defeated Kite when she just knew about Nen.

Chrollo should obviously lose. Let this thread die.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Pitou is faster, stronger, and more durable than Chrollo. Add in her Trepshicora which makes her stronger and faster. She also defeated Kite when she just knew about Nen.

Chrollo should obviously lose. Let this thread die.

Kite isn't a good example, we saw almost nothing from Kite we don't know the limit to his power, he never fought someone like the current and former boss of the Zoldycks at the same time and lived. People live off of the Ging hype for Kite and think that makes him top 10, he isn't.

Kite started that entire fight one handed, we don't know if Pitou was even truly a match for 100% Kite, he saw her attack coming and tried to warn Gon so it couldn't have been too fast that he couldn't react. With both arms and no Gon who's to say how that fight really would have went, but the fact we don't know much of anything about Kite means we can't accurately use him as a point to judge against.

 

[VongolaX]

I'm pretty sure that even Netero was as strong as a royal guard.

Pitou takes this.....

 

[Loki d]

The leader of phantom troupe vs a royal guard/chimera ant last time I checked phantom troupe members took care of the chimera ants with ease they played a game who can get to the queen first they had no fear in their heart now what do you think Chrollo would do with Pitou

Silva is fast,strong, and has tough skin also immune to poison Chrollo had a fight with him and came out alive and even Silva took care of a chimera ant with ease if that one was so good he should have been able to sense Silva coming

Humans>Chimera Ant except for the King

 

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Chrollo takes this (neg or mid diff)

 

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[Darkakatsuki]

Whats stopping Pitou from just speed blitzing and ripping his head off ? Chrollo hasn't showed any speed feats near Royal Guard level neither does he have the power to put her down.

I'm talking about the anime btw I don't know about manga. u-u

Chrollo has an instant teleportation technique (the one he used to teleport Nobunaga away from Hisoka. You must also remember that Chrollo kept up with both Silva and Zeno despite holding back significantly (was trying to steal their abilities, has to clear four difficult conditions to do that and has to keep them ALIVE, if they die he can't take the ability, and if they die afterwards the stolen ability disapears from his book). There's also the matter that Silva expressly stated that Chrollo was intentionally dodging Zeno's attacks at the last possible moment so that he and Silva can't use combination attacks (Silva might get caught in Zeno's attack as well coz of the last split second dodging from Chrollo). Add also the fact that when Silva and Chrollo finally went at it hand to hand, first time they did Silva got cut by Chrollo's knife, second time Chrollo kept up easily and blocked all of his attacks. Considering that Silva blitzed the fastest chimera ant shown so far (Cheetu, not counting post rose Mereum, and also have to concede that Cheetu was probably, actually definitely unaware of Silva's presence until the very last moment)), then you have to concede that Chrollo can easily keep up with Pitou between his instant teleportation along with his speed and reflexes. His speed was also showcased by the way with him chopping Neon Nostrade and the people watching from the camera's not even seing the movement, thinking that she just collapsed until the video feed was rewinded and slowed down.

 

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- Any of them could kill meaning Pitou, Pouf and Youpi as well which shows he was just talking based on Aura because anyone watching /reading this Manga knows Pouf and Youpi can't win against Netero

-You ignored the fact that he said "Most Likely". What does that mean? It's uncertain but with higher probability of it happening. This further shows that his point was based on Aura. I've already told you what Morel said about that which is pretty clear.

-Netero didn't say Pitou was stronger. He questioned if she was. He also said Knov and Morel were stronger than him as well which was false. You act like the manga clarifies what you're saying when it doesn't. Combat fight is different from aura. Morel has said this already. Killua was afraid of rammot because he doubts he could win after rammot learned Nen. What gave him that doubt?

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He assumed he was stronger and why did he? His aura most likely since Killua encountered him before and won but when his Nen became strong

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, Killua opted not to face him cuz he believed he couldn't win. Killua still won with ease.



The more I read this the more I laugh. How you came to this is too funny. He disposed of her with a much weaker attack than the ones he used against the King.

You think this makes sense? He encountered Pitou and took her on. Whose fault was it that she was sent flying away so far that doctor blythe when summoned has been noted not to move from one spot took a lot to stop her flying away.
Again that's you trying to contradict the Manga. He was afraid to take the RG on because he could die but yet he took the King on who's far stronger? False.
He wanted to separate them because he didn't want anyone interfering with his fight against the king. He didn't want to take all of them on at once with the King as well.



And why wasn't it an extended fight? because she was disposed of with ease. The king took time to counter because of his durability and repeated attacks which led him to know the mechanics behind it. Not to mention his games with Komugi which helped

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. The king has displayed high intelligence which far surpasses Pitou as shown when he easily won other games against the top best. Pitou doesn't possess such speed, intelligence and durability considering the king was still alive after minature rose. Not to mention several times he was hit even when he saw it coming and still couldn't tell it was behind him after finding how KH works. So even when he knew about it, he said the attack was faster than him. That makes it hard to dodge. He kept taking heavy blows from it. Twice he was hit from the start but he couldn't dodge but rather he took the hits countless times.

Lol I hope you're joking. The author said Pitou fought Netero with full strength but even so

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Netero countered with ease. What else would convince people that she had more to offer when at full strength she was easily dealt with.

Pitou caught a glimpse after the attack hit her. As simple as that. She wasn't able to react or tell where it could come from before it hit her. Not to mention Netero was above her and yet she was hit from below directly

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. Who wouldn't be able to catch a glimpse of that? She got hit and then said it came from below after she was hit from that direction already. What's hard or special about that?

Why don't you understand that it was a weaker attack compared to what was used against the King. He never used that attack against the King. Unless you want to say Pitou is also stronger that the king. She took one of that but was sent far away to the point that Netero could go and meet the king. If it was a "baby attack", why didn't she easily counter and stop them from approaching the king.

Adult Gon broke through her skull means what? You don't have to break her skull to kill her. There are several other ways. Adult Gon was releasing his anger on her.

She was damaged by the King but wasn't sent flying. The point is she was damaged. Just because fodders got easily killed by it doesn't mean because she wasn't flying makes it amazing. Pouf was sent flying but wasn't badly damaged. If she was damaged by that at least, What would Zero hand do? Loool Not to mention KH would damage her a lot.


Lol that was a weak attack compared to the others. She's durable but not durable enough to tank stronger attacks like zero hand.

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This is what he did to someone far more durable than Pitou. Someone who was still alive after minature rose. Not to mention Zero hand is from behind. Pitou can't do a thing about it

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This is the part that tell me you're desperately grasping at straws Lol. Zeno never said that was his strongest attack. Hyakushiki kannon. Why don't you look that up before concluding. You obviously don't know what it is. How you came to that is just too funny. They asked Zeno in that same scan about Netero's secret and he said his strongest move was probably HK and you're coming to your own conclusion. So out of text.


Already dealt with and proved this is wrong.



How fast she ripped Kaito's arm? Smh stop this. Gon and Killua were the reason that happened which was shown by the manga

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. That's not all that. She used Terischopa of course but it still didn't save her from Netero's attack. This further proves that she's not fast enough to bypass his HK due to her being at her extreme best but still hit with ease with a weaker attack.


Fanfiction or your lack of understanding what happened? A baby attack that caused her to summon DB since it doesn't move from a spot and even with that, she struggled to still keep her self intact.


Funny. She could see the attack but couldn't dodge it or rather she got hit by the attack which enabled her to know where it was coming from. You yourself have no proof. Why don't you read this

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Pitou couldn't keep up with his movements. What's easy to grasp? Do we read this same manga. Stop comparing pitou to the king. Even with her six sense sharpened to their limits she couldn't do a thing about it

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. The king is on a different level in terms of intelligence and finding the trick behind things and you think Pitou is on his level? Things complex for the RG such as Pouf could easily be figured out by the King easily

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. He could easily defeat world champions in their fields within a day or less in tactical games with ease

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and He pushed Komugi to a different level to a stage where she could awaken nen due to playing against him even though he just started playing.
Your comparison is funny. KH is faster and Pitou doesn't or at least hasn't shown intelligence that suggest she would discover the trick behind it before she's killed. It took the King quite a ( someone who's extremely intelligent) a long while after being hit by first, third, and ninety nine hands to discover it. Thousands of hits were thrown which cause him at least pain

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due to his incredible durability and his gungi game with komugi. Even with that, he still couldn't do anything about Zero hand even after he seemingly discovered the other ones. He took a lot of damage from it still.

Even with that, the king could land only a lucky punch and he said komugi was what helped him

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As for the cheetu part, I hope you're joking?You just compared that situation to The king's? It took Knuckle and Morel within minutes to get used to him and how long did it take the king? Not to mention that was a 2v1 with Moerel using his smoke screen and Cheetu's anger blinding him

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. They used a smoke clone before they could land a hit on him. Did you forget that too? Netero's attack is irrelevant to this. Komugi was what helped


Lol who's coming up with stuff now? It does make sense that Zeno didn't take part in that because of the bomb but where's the proof? His job was to help separate the king from the RG. That means he would have fought the RG if they tried to interfere because that was his job. Netero tried to fight the king himself. That was the plan. How do you know it was because of the bomb? That's an assumption. Not to mention Netero just wanted a one on one and had no idea the king would want to change locations. Unless you want to come up with an idea on how he knew the King would want that. The location would have been one with people there. It doesn't matter because the king just wanted a one on one. As simple as that. There's no proof about the bomb part even if it does makes sense.


Lol You said he didn't use Nen but now you're jumping into something else. Initially he did say he would fight to defeat without killing but are you saying that's the reason he couldn't easily figure the trick behind KH?

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. He even said Netero is a better weapon than he is

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. Automatically puts him above Pitou . He just kept admiring Netero. Without komugi, it would have been a different situation. It got to a point where he was struggling. Killing intent wouldn't change a thing if he struggled to bypass KH like that when he was noting how Netero was fast enough to land attacks faster than him and the king couldn't even lay a scratch after thousands of hits


Lol he was stronger that's the point. It's not by a wide margin but he's for sure stronger than them with Pitou being the greatest challenge.

I hope you know Netero didn't say Pitou was stronger than him? He questioned if she was and the fact that he said Morel and Knov were also stronger proves this wrong as they themselves disagreed.
Killua out of fear went to his own conclusion due to Aura and Morel debunked this.

You're being unreasonable with the Pitou thing . She was in mid air and therefore had no way of stopping Netero's attack from pushing her back coz she didn't have ground to stand on and balance. I don't think Togashi could have been any more clear about this. He even has Netero narrate on this in his thoughts, saying that he expected a number of reactions from the ants but not this one, and than he goes on to say that she just made a bad move. The words 'BAD MOVE' are even written all over the screen at that point. In other words, if you still don't understand, Netero could not have swatted Pitou away if she had just stood her ground (literally, he she hadn't jumped into the air). This incident in no way makes Netero stronger than Pitou, in fact, the fact that she sustained absolutely no damage proves that Netero would struggle to even injure her.