[Discussion] Child support

[Sakazuki]

Do you think a guy should have to pay child support under these circumstances?

1. A girl can have an abortion EVEN IF THE MAN WANTS THE CHILD.

So let's say a guy doesn't want the kid so he asks her to have an abortion but she doesn't. So he doesn't stay as he did not want the child, should he have to pay child support even though a girl can get rid of the kid and not pay child support even if the guy wants it?


Now of course if they both want the kid but not want to stay together than yes whoever doesn't have full custody should pay child support.

P.s. yes I have a son who lives with me and yes the mom wants him but due to her household problems I have custody, but no I do not make her pay child support

 

[AllKnowingShinobi]

ddude no matter what if you bring a soul into this world you better pay for child support...if not, the moron should've use a condo or pull out geezzzz nobs man

 

[Sakazuki]

ddude no matter what if you bring a soul into this world you better pay for child support...if not, the moron should've use a condo or pull out geezzzz nobs man

Do you think it's okay a girl can have an abortion EVEN if the dad wants the kid

 

[Fountain]

What are you talking about?

 

[Ninetailsfox00x1]

No, I think people get on CS to get back at the Dad/Mom. You're a good man for not pushing a burden that could mess up her life.

 

[Imp]

Do you think a guy should have to pay child support under these circumstances?

1. A girl can have an abortion EVEN IF THE MAN WANTS THE CHILD.

So let's say a guy doesn't want the kid so he asks her to have an abortion but she doesn't. So he doesn't stay as he did not want the child, should he have to pay child support even though a girl can get rid of the kid and not pay child support even if the guy wants it?

[Sub]Your explanation is quite unclear, but I will say this: many women 'trap' guys, in the sense that they get pregnant on purpose so that he has to pay child support - of which a decent portion she will spend on herself (buying make-up, new handbags, and all of that extra shit). This is why many rich guys get vasectomies; if a chick was getting child support from a rich guy, she'd be copping at least $3,000 a month for free, for 18 years straight. [/Sub]​

Now of course if they both want the kid but not want to stay together than yes whoever doesn't have full custody should pay child support.

P.s. yes I have a son who lives with me and yes the mom wants him but due to her household problems I have custody, but no I do not make her pay child support

[Sub] That's cool. But at the end of the day, if she's pregnant and wants you to pay child support, then you are legally bound to - unless you have valid, extenuating excuses. Similarly, if she's pregnant, but she doesn't want you to pay child support, then you don't have to - but she can change her mind anytime.[/Sub]​

 

[Urda]

No, I think people get on CS to get back at the Dad/Mom. You're a good man for not pushing a burden that could mess up her life.

Not all the time. Many single mothers need the money.

I think the laws are starting to favor the father that they can now have custody of the child and file for child support on the mother.

 

[Sakazuki]

What are you talking about?

Was just debating with a friend about how if a guy wants his wife's baby, she can still abort it even if he doesn't want her too

 

[Clown World]

no, if the modern women was so liberated they would be able to pay for a child themselves, there's also a disparaging amount of single mothers compared to fathers and quite frankly are a crime producer.

 

[Solarmoth]

Yes, He can

 

[JStar King]

It is both the man and the woman's responsibility for taking care of that child. So, of course. He better chip in.

If the guy is man enough to slide between her legs without protection, then he should be man enough to suffer the consequences and take care of that child.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Do you think a guy should have to pay child support under these circumstances?

1. A girl can have an abortion EVEN IF THE MAN WANTS THE CHILD.

So let's say a guy doesn't want the kid so he asks her to have an abortion but she doesn't. So he doesn't stay as he did not want the child, should he have to pay child support even though a girl can get rid of the kid and not pay child support even if the guy wants it?


Now of course if they both want the kid but not want to stay together than yes whoever doesn't have full custody should pay child support.

P.s. yes I have a son who lives with me and yes the mom wants him but due to her household problems I have custody, but no I do not make her pay child support

You're dumb, it's a parent's job to take care of a child. One way or another, both of you need to contribute, and be consistent with it. I hope you guys have some sort of plan worked out.A mother that cares for her child, won't make any excuses.A selfish mother is full of excuses. Feeding/clothing/seeing her kid is not one of her main priorities...trust me.Same goes for a father, of course.

As for that poor excuse "A woman can get an abortion even if the man wants it"...it doesn't matter. You had unprotected *** with someone and she got pregnant. The woman has no business getting an abortion,either, because that's just irresponsible.Cause & Effect.

You want the guilty pleasures of the world, but you don't want to pay the consequences?People are too over privileged these days. You shouldn't get the option to get an abortion...unless it's rape, defected,still born, etc...extreme/necessary cases such as that.Plus, a child has no business raising a child...stay in a CHILD'S place.

People get abortions for no reason.Or make the BIGGEST deal out of getting pregnant, as if you didn't have *** to do so. Consequences.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Do you think it's okay a girl can have an abortion EVEN if the dad wants the kid

Some guys trick girls into getting pregnant, cause they wanna use a baby as a clutch.Some women don't wanna be bothered with that.Men with narcissistic agendas. Just like you have women with narcissistic agendas.

It's stupid. Cause & Effect.

However, it still takes two people to have ***.

 

[kimb]

I dont believe a man should be forced by the law to lay child support, and I believe single parents shouldnt receive financial support from the government. It was the introduction of welfare programs in the 1960s for single mothers that led to the destruction of the "black family" in America, and decreased frequency of the nuclear family.

There used to be a time where people's actions had societal consequences; if a woman had a child out of wedlock with no established marriage, the man would have no legally binding obligation to provide resources for the mother or the child, She wouldnt be able to go out and work to obtain resources since she's busy rearing an child and the fact that she's had a child means no other man would want to marry her. And she eventually becomes a burden upon her parents who she has to rely on for resources for herself and her child. These consequences led to laws, religious laws, and societal norms being established that would promote marriage and monogamy, and condemn *** before marriage and promiscuity, which in turn made people more conscious of the people they were choosing to have relationshios with.

Now that the government has injected itself as the legal binding agent that makes men support the mother and child, and as the supporting husband/provider that would supply resources through welfare programs, women can be as sexually promiscuous as they want with whomever they want and have children as they please without fearing the societal consequences of having children out of wedlock since they can always extrapolate resources from men through the force of the government. This decreases the overall value of marriage, decreases communal cohesion, and promotes single parenthood (which is now 21% of all parenting relationships); children that are products of single parent households generally have higher risks of depression, suicidal tendencies, emotional distress, drug abuse, immense propensity towards early sexual activity, and are far more likely to end up being a criminal and or in jail. When you have 21% or so of society raising children to have a higher tendency to volatile behavior, you're going to have a more volatile society.

And to think these issues all stem from child support.

TL;DR
Men should not pay child support, as it decreases the value of marriage and the quality of society. And women need to be more responsible with the men they open their legs for.

 

[Donald J Trump]

However, it still takes two people to have ***.

How would you know?

 

[Dreckerplayer]

I dont believe a man should be forced by the law to lay child support, and I believe single parents shouldnt receive financial support from the government. It was the introduction of welfare programs in the 1960s for single mothers that led to the destruction of the "black family" in America, and decreased frequency of the nuclear family.

There used to be a time where people's actions had societal consequences; if a woman had a child out of wedlock with no established marriage, the man would have no legally binding obligation to provide resources for the mother or the child, She wouldnt be able to go out and work to obtain resources since she's busy rearing an child and the fact that she's had a child means no other man would want to marry her. And she eventually becomes a burden upon her parents who she has to rely on for resources for herself and her child. These consequences led to laws, religious laws, and societal norms being established that would promote marriage and monogamy, and condemn *** before marriage and promiscuity, which in turn made people more conscious of the people they were choosing to have relationshios with.

Now that the government has injected itself as the legal binding agent that makes men support the mother and child, and as the supporting husband/provider that would supply resources through welfare programs, women can be as sexually promiscuous as they want with whomever they want and have children as they please without fearing the societal consequences of having children out of wedlock since they can always extrapolate resources from men through the force of the government. This decreases the overall value of marriage, decreases communal cohesion, and promotes single parenthood (which is now 21% of all parenting relationships); children that are products of single parent households generally have higher risks of depression, suicidal tendencies, emotional distress, drug abuse, immense propensity towards early sexual activity, and are far more likely to end up being a criminal and or in jail. When you have 21% or so of society raising children to have a higher tendency to volatile behavior, you're going to have a more volatile society.

And to think these issues all stem from child support.

TL;DR
Men should not pay child support, as it decreases the value of marriage and the quality of society. And women need to be more responsible with the men they open their legs for.

Or simply a lack of parentage.

Are you saying people have to be married in order for someone to have a functional childhood?Kind of old fashioned and obsolete.

And are you saying that child support is the sole reason for people with "higher risks of depression, suicidal tendencies, emotional distress, drug abuse, immense propensity towards early sexual activity, and are far more likely to end up being a criminal and or in jail" or is it just a CLUSTER of things that are responsible for those things?Cause that's what I think it is.

And finally, I have to say I 90% disagree with your notion, I think it's selective information, slightly manipulative, and biased.It's like favoritism towards the idea of marriage, so you push this agenda.

On top of that, I noticed gender bias, as well.Favoritism towards the female side of the story, and I also noticed a poor outlook on the male side of things, in your post.Says a lot. The whole thing seems like it's rule-based.

Almost like your a bit of a feminist. Don't take anything I say the wrong way, cause I know you do...

As for the 10%...

Yeah, child support is stupid. People are SUPPOSE to take care of their children.That's it.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

How would you know?

Ask your mother.

And I kind of don't appreciate you "cover it up" cases low-key inquiring about what I do in my private life. I think it's an invasion of privacy...stay out my junk.

 

[Donald J Trump]

Ask your mother.

And I kind of don't appreciate you "cover it up" cases low-key inquiring about what I do in my private life. I think it's an invasion of privacy...stay out my junk.

Dance for me puppet

 

[Cornson]

Do you think a guy should have to pay child support under these circumstances?

1. A girl can have an abortion EVEN IF THE MAN WANTS THE CHILD.

So let's say a guy doesn't want the kid so he asks her to have an abortion but she doesn't. So he doesn't stay as he did not want the child, should he have to pay child support even though a girl can get rid of the kid and not pay child support even if the guy wants it?


Now of course if they both want the kid but not want to stay together than yes whoever doesn't have full custody should pay child support.

P.s. yes I have a son who lives with me and yes the mom wants him but due to her household problems I have custody, but no I do not make her pay child support

personally i would say no.

in the same way you can't force a sperm donor to pay child support.

if the man don't want the child for what ever reason (1 night stand, or believe they are not ready to have a child, for what ever reason) then he should be legally allowed to "disawove" (don't know how to spell it) any right and support claims for the child.

the child grows inside the women so a man should have no say in an aborting if the women is against it, however on the flipside of that coin if the man don't want anything to do with the child then he shuden't be forced to do so.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

personally i would say no.

in the same way you can't force a sperm donor to pay child support.

if the man don't want the child for what ever reason (1 night stand, or believe they are not ready to have a child, for what ever reason) then he should be legally allowed to "disawove" (don't know how to spell it) any right and support claims for the child.

the child grows inside the women so a man should have no say in an aborting if the women is against it, however on the flipside of that coin if the man don't want anything to do with the child then he shuden't be forced to do so.

You know damn well you come from a place of nowhere, with those statements.

It makes no sense.

Consequences, my boy. You can't "hit and run", all the time. Everyone needs to play their part.

Reap what you sow. Such a selfish person, to start something you don't wanna finish.Incredibly irresponsible, says so much about your character.

You don't want child support, so then take initiative and support without a constitution forcing you to pay.It's so pathetic. Be responsible and take accountability for the outcome of your selfish desires.

And you have these jealous men out here that don't want to give a child a better life or support, just cause they didn't have one as a child.So selfish and such a victim.

With this resentful attitude towards a situation caused by their own empty decisions. Having a kid ISN'T about you...it isn't.

But you decided to have unprotected *** with someone who isn't on the pill.Consequences, my boy...consequences.