Character Analysis | Databook Prediction | Tobirama

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Pretty sure Tobirama is going to be maxed 5's , potentially losing a point or half in strength.
He is most likely the epitome of what it means to be a Senju. When I say that I mean being a clan known for mastering all the forms of ninja combat. That combined with his intelligence, title of former fastest ninja alive, and his one seal jutsu utilization is enough for me to posit that.

To be honest, this is what I thought. He may not be the best in any category, but he is skilled enough to get 5's across the board. Orochimaru has not shown strong genjutsu feats.
 
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And you're ignoring that Databook stats are unreliable, as multiple scans can show how incorrect they are.
Kishi knows better than you so I'll go with his unreliable work over your opinion any day.
 

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To be honest, this is what I thought. He may not be the best in any category, but he is skilled enough to get 5's across the board. Orochimaru has not shown stronge genjutsu feats.
If kishi gave orochimaru a 5 in genjutsu, it's because kishi knows his full arsenal. He probably has genjutsu techniques that kishi never got the opportunity to show, but kishi knows he has them hence why he gets a 5.


Tobirama may have vast knowledge in genjutsu but we'll probably never know because kishi can't show everyone's jutsu. But we'll have a rough idea once the next databook is released.
 

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Kishi knows better than you so I'll go with his unreliable work over your opinion any day.

Lmao right! Databooks are canon material. I dont see why people think that their opinion's matter.
 

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Kishi knows better than you so I'll go with his unreliable work over your opinion any day.

And that's why i should ignore ignorant people. Kishimoto is a human being. He makes mistakes even in his manga. He is not perfect.

-Kuranai scored 5 in Genjutsu making her equal to Itachi, yet she was beaten easily. Same as Orochimaru.
-Hiruzen displayed 5 in Genjutsu, yet never showed any feat.
-Jiraiya scored 4.5 in Taijutsu making him virtually as good as Gai, yet he has no feats of 8 gates or secrets what so ever. Same as Hiruzen.

The list can go on forever. YOU KNOW I AM RIGHT, but you will not admitted.


Then why are you here discussing data booklet stats? They can be blatantly contradicted, but when that doesn't exist they are valid, as, like it or not, they come from Kishi's mouth.

The second part doesn't make much sense, what are you driving at?

I am just making my point. Second part shows people who should score 5 in Taijutsu.
 

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I think I should note that DB scores are the scores for people in base. Base Kurenei = Itachi = Orochimaru in genjutsu, but with the 3T, Itachi merks. u.u
 

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Oh you serious, when was the last databook released?

You're talking about oros genjutsu stats. If it's a 5, that means kishi knows oro has great knowledge in genjutsu but he just didn't show them because they weren't relevant. Kishi doesn't need to provide proof or feats to justify his databook scores, he knows more than we know.
 

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AYEEEEEE!!!!!!

He is without a doubt the second most perfect shinobi of Naruto-verse. Even Madara isn't on this level of perfection. Oh you forgot that his skills used to be on Madara's level in combat also =p




Also, as for the genjutsu thing. You gain stats in genjutsu by having knowledge of it and so on. However, that doesn't mean you have the ability to break genjutsu, but instead have the ability to cast it and have knowledge of it.

Kurenai as a genjutsu master is superior to Itachi when it comes to mastery of genjutsu. Itachi is only superior due to the fact he is granted the strongest genjutsu via the Sharingan. When it comes to mastery Kurenai knows more genjutsus.

Kurenai = variety

Itachi = Power..

Hence why both have 5..

Orochimaru = Knowledge and ability to do it also..
 
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AYEEEEEE!!!!!!

He is without a doubt the second most perfect shinobi of Naruto-verse. Even Madara isn't on this level of perfection. Oh you forgot that his skills used to be on Madara's level in combat also =p

:blush:

In all seriousness though, what skills are you talking about?
 

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Awesome, analysis broski! How long did it take yah? ^^​
 

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You're talking about oros genjutsu stats. If it's a 5, that means kishi knows oro has great knowledge in genjutsu but he just didn't show them because they weren't relevant. Kishi doesn't need to provide proof or feats to justify his databook scores, he knows more than we know.


You might have a good point.
 

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I think the main problem exists with how small the DB figures are; there can be quite a difference in ability between people of the same mark - part one Hiruzen scores a three in speed, yet kid Neji has a five(?). Is he faster than Jiraiya? Sasuke? I don't think so.
 

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And i was about to make a reply, yet you delete it. You're afraid of me.

I think the main problem exists with how small the DB figures are; there can be quite a difference in ability between people of the same mark - part one Hiruzen scores a three in speed, yet kid Neji has a five(?). Is he faster than Jiraiya? Sasuke? I don't think so.

Exactly. By that reasoning, Databook would become unreliable.
 

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You might have a good point.

All I'm saying is, Kishi didn't just randomly slap some numbers onto a paper. He gave good thought to what he was doing and he has a reason for each and every score he's given. It's just not possible to show every ability, jutsu and technique for every single character. Therefore kishi writes the databook to give us a rough idea of how potentially well certain characters with 0 feats do in a certain category.

I think the problem is that the highest score is only out of 5, which is why some scores may seem a bit less believable. But I still trust the scores because there is reason behind them, they aren't random or pulled out of his ass.
 
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