Character Analysis | Databook Prediction | Tobirama

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My friend made on of these for Deidara and the Asura path which turned out great by the way, so I thought I would give it a go with my new font. Also thought this was a fitting way for my twenty thousandth post.

Character analysis for Tobirama

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Suiton Prowess

Unknown to some, Tobirama was with his suiton ninjutsu although he has not been using it as of late. Even with his given feats, his suiton ranks in the top three so far. By that I mean Kisame and Mei have great feats in the suiton department, but when Tobirama was in part one it matched Hiruzen's ninjutsu. Take notice of Hiruzen's ninjutsu compared to . The power difference can be attributed to two things. One of them being the power scaling going on in part two to show that the Hokage are still the top dogs in the shinobi alliance, and the amount of chakra the Senju brothers have compared to their . After reading that, I hope you can deem it valid that Tobirama's suiton from part one would be at least on par with Hiruzen's elemental blasts.

1.) Suiton: Suijinheki. -> -> This jutsu is a basic water wall that can block in coming elemental attacks. It is performed by spitting out chakra infused water to form a wall around you whilst you keep pumping out water to reinforce the wall. A staple to any suiton user's array of ninjutsu.

2.) Suiton: Suiryudan. -> . Suiryudan is an advanced suiton ninjutsu that not many suiton users perform. The user flashes anywhere from one to forty-four hand seals [depending on the level of skill] and with chakra, water from either pre-existing water sources or the atmosphere itself start to form a dragon to attack with blunt force. Tobirama had the skill to use this with one hand seal and barely any water as a half assed Edo Tensei.

3.) Suiton: Suidanha. -> . Suidanha is a suiton that has only been used by the Nidaime so far, so we cannot tell if the jutsu is too advanced to be performed by others or if Kishimoto didn't want Suidanha being revealed before Tobirama. But anyways, the user flashes the tiger hand seal and condenses the chakra in his mouth to form a highly pressurized water jet that can be angled by the tilting of one's head. The jutsu was so devastatingly quick that the tree and sucked up BSM Naruto in two very quick panels.

There is also the speculation of a that Tobirama used, but I doubt it is a suiton. The rods prevent the Nidaime from kneading chakra, but Madara did use Susano'o to block it. It is too confusing, so I will leave that as undecided for now.


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Intelligence, Analyzing, and Kinjutsu/Ninjutsu

Tobirama created many techniques in his day, such as the , , , and .

1.) The Kage Bunshin is a technique in which the user splits up his chakra into halves and with that chakra, forms a new entity of chakra called a Kage Bunshin. These bunshin can do anything the original can. The Kage Bunshin was most likely created due to the fact A way to perfect ones self faster than normal is to to train in something else as you train in something, doubling your experience and knowledge.

2.) Hiraishin is a space and time ninjutsu in which the user teleports to their chakra or a fuuinjutsu symbol called the Hiraishin seal. The seal is undetectable by chakra sensors or Dojutsu wielders as is all Fuuinjutsu due to the fact the fuuinjutsu itself costs no chakra. The fuuinjutsu can be placed on or . If applied to a person, the user of Hiraishin can Hiraishin to them and kill them almost instantaneously. If the Hiraishin fuuinjutsu was placed on a weapon, Tobirama can use to cut his opponent. Hiraishin also can be used to evade incoming attacks, switching places with clones via . The teleporting is done instantly, so the longest part of this jutsu is actually picking which seal you want to teleport to. The possibilities for Hiraishin are almost endless.

3.) Edo Tensei is a Kinjutsu in which the user traps a soul into a corpse, which causes the corps to become reanimated. The Edo Tensei are not brought back at full power, and are used as . The explosion was big enough to dwarf several Bijuu sized Juubi clones, which makes avoiding this technique without warning near impossible. This jutsu is a , so Tobirama would not use it off the bat.

Tobirama's knowledge does not stop there, but he also knows of . What is more baffling is that he has knowledge on and it's when the only other person who knew this was Madara. Orochimaru nor Kabuto knew about Onmyoudan, and they are geniuses.

Maybe his best trait, Tobirama has great analytical prowess. when no one else did. Tobirama also figured out Onmyoudan's weakness being senjutsu when a SM user like Minato couldn't or an analytical genius like Sasuke couldn't as well. -> -> -> . Tobirama not only knew from the beginning, but had the initiative to sprint to Naruto and teleport him to Juubito. as confirmed by Tobirama. He also figured out how the BM cloak and Hiraishin combo was when Naruto didn't even know how it worked.

Also, Tobirama knows , which is a very strong barrier that held the Juubi until it become Obito's Jin.


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Chakra Prowess and Sensory Abilities

The which can be molded into chakra, making them chakra monsters. Tobirama is a pure Senju, thus leaving him with great physical energy. He fought with his brother against the Uchiha for , which shows how much stamina he has. His chakra was great enough to warp and not show any exhaustion. His chakra was enough to when it took to crack a roof. Also wanting to note that Tobirama's chakra was strong enough to until Hashirama's cells came into play. Also, in a , Tobirama still made two kage Bunshin and could fight comfortably with Juubito.

Sensory wise, Tobirama is in the top tiers among other shinobi living or dead. ever since childbirth. Tobirama sensed Madara from . Tobirama can also sense the of people, or their . Tobirama can also use the to sense people from the vibrations of the ground.


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Speed, Reactions, Taijutsu, and Kenjutsu.

of his generation, putting him ahead of speedsters like Hashirama and Madara. Now since you can use A>B>C in speed terms, I shall show you some feats of both Hashirama and Madara.

1.) Hashirama was casually and out running the Perfect Susano'o. He put to summon the gates before the Tailed Beast Bomb hit him.

2.) Madara, who was blind and had no SM enhancements, whilst going after Hashirama. SM Naruto barely got his hands up to defend. Madara was also casually of the shinobi alliance.

3.) Tobirama and Hashirama got by the mindless Juubito. Mind you, no one has seen Juubito's speed prior to this blitz. Minato even realizes how Juubito is, but during mid blitz, Tobirama stuck and on Juubito without him noticing. Minato and Tobirama also showed to each other's Hiraishin. The fourth hokage Tobirama on how quick he is. See how long Minato and the gang realizes the bomb is attached to Minato? -> -> . Tobirama outran everyone near the bomb and teleported it mid explosion. Even when Madara had Sage Mode and the Rinnegan, Tobirama used Hiraishin at the to avoid a deadly blow and gain the upper hand.

That is why Tobirama's taijutsu and kenjutsu are so lethal, his Hiraishin. But his natural speed and reflexes are more than enough to pressure most fighters. Tobirama has been against Izuna and other Uchiha. Even during his late teenage/early adult years, Tobirama against Izuna, showing that he is quite proficient and he can match very powerful opponents.





Databook Prediction:

Ninjutsu: 5
Taijutsu: 5
Genjutsu: 3.5-4
Intelligence:5
Strength: 4-5
Speed: 5
Stamina: 5
Hand Seals:4-5

So, anywhere between 36.5-39. Reminder, Orochimaru got a five in genjutsu and got decimated by Itachi, so even if someone gets a five in a stat, that does not mean they are great in it.




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Strength should be a three, otherwise cool
 

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Great thread but,i have to dismiss your last remark on the skill stats
When your a 5 your declared a master in that category however,when two people with similar stats go up against one another it comes down to the individuals experience and natural power of the genjustu
 

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Oh and another thing, Orochimaru's chakra strength is on par, if not greater than Tobirama. Refer to Edo Kage revival.
 

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Great thread but,i have to dismiss your last remark on the skill stats
When your a 5 your declared a master in that category however,when two people with similar stats go up against one another it comes down to the individuals experience and natural power of the genjustu

I don't mean any slouch can get a five in a stat, but there can be gaps even though the DB gave them the same rating.​

Oh and another thing, Orochimaru's chakra strength is on par, if not greater than Tobirama. Refer to Edo Kage revival.

Yes, with white Zetsu as his base.​
 

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Superb. I'll read it later and comment in another post. I can't wait to sit in the morning with my coffee and read this. You should add Fresco's comment on Tobirama:

No one really revolutionized Jutsu like Tobirama did. Tobirama created two techniques, one that transcended life and death, and the other that transcended space and time. It was really unprecedented. Not only that, but he created it without the aid of kekkei genkai such as Sharingan or Mokuton. When it comes to intelligence, there really isn't any one who can compare to him from his era. Neither Madara or Hashirama. Also, he revolutionized Konoha more than any other Hokage.
 

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Excellent thread, Penguin. I will make soon on few of my favorite characters, whenever I will get time, but this thread was needed as a lot of things about Tobirama are revealed in latest chapters. Although I will settle with 3.5 in gen though.^_^
 

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I don't mean any slouch can get a five in a stat, but there can be gaps even though the DB gave them the same rating.​



Yes, with white Zetsu as his base.​
No, refer to Edo Kage revival, not the Hokages.... gosh Penguin... v_v
 

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I've always looked at Tobirama as a solid 38 U_U
 

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Don't character analysis usually consist of talking of the character beyond his combat skills? I thought that was a standard.

Anyway, I believe you inflated his stats a bit too high.

He hasn't done a single hand sign, so giving him a 5 is out of the question. Giving him a 5 in strength is also out of the question as he does not have a single strength feat. You could also be being much too generous for Taijutsu as the only time we saw him utilizing it: he got stomped by Madara [which makes sense, but still]. The Genjutsu seems about right, he is after all a part of the Senju, who mastered many techniques.

And shout out to giving those three a shout out, they are some of my favorite NB members.
 

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Excellent thread, Penguin. I will make soon on few of my favorite characters, whenever I will get time, but this thread was needed as a lot of things about Tobirama are revealed in latest chapters. Although I will settle with 3.5 in gen though.^_^

That is a minimum rating. He fought Uchiha all his life and never succumbed to genjutsu to the point of death, so I assume he has great genjutsu knowledge and defense. And the Senju were the clan of a thousand techniques.


Superb. I'll read it later and comment in another post. I can't wait to sit in the morning with my coffee and read this. You should add Fresco's comment on Tobirama:

I added him indirectly to an extent. Inside joke. u.u​
 

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Nicely done,though his stats need adjusting.
 

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Don't character analysis usually consist of talking of the character beyond his combat skills? I thought that was a standard.

Anyway: I believe you inflated his stats a bit too high.

He hasn't done a single hand sign, so giving him a 5 is out of the question. Giving him a 5 in strength is also out of the question as he does not have a single strength feat. You could also be being much too generous for Taijutsu as the only time we saw him utilizing it: he got stomped by Madara [which makes sense, but still]. The Genjutsu seems about right, he is after all a part of the Senju, who mastered many techniques.

And shout out to giving those three a shout out, they are some of my favorite NB members.

I don't know. The only ones I have read only talk about combat. We don't know his hand seal speed, but the maximum amount of hand seals he has made for a jutsu are one. I think that should say he is pretty good with them since he doesn't need to use tons. But again, you have a point.

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I don't know. The only ones I have read only talk about combat. We don't know his hand seal speed, but the maximum amount of hand seals he has made for a jutsu are one. I think that should say he is pretty good with them since he doesn't need to use tons. But again, you have a point.

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Meh, I really do not even care for the parts not about combat either, but it's just that I thought it was a standard. I really wouldn't know.

That is one way of looking at hand seals [the Rasengan is quite convenient for Naruto and Minato due to this], he may have engineered a combat style not requiring of hand seals. Minato surely functions well without hand seals for the most part and he is most definitely a 5 in hand seals. This is Tobirama we are talking about haha.

Good thread man, not enough people give credit to Tobirama for his Suiton because of the Part 1 scaling, but he is definitely second in my book [I'd like to assume he is above Kisame]. And also props to you on analyzing the feat where he marked Obito after he got blitzed. It is actually a big feat for Tobirama, but it's widely unnoticed.
 

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Lol, you really went all out with this. Nice analyzation of your fave xD
I'll be sure to read more into this.
 

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Excellent analysis on his abilities and i agree with the Databook stat prediction.
 
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Lol, you really went all out with this. Nice analyzation of your fave xD
I'll be sure to read more into this.

Thanks man. xD​

Meh, I really do not even care for the parts not about combat either, but it's just that I thought it was a standard. I really wouldn't know.

That is one way of looking at hand seals [the Rasengan is quite convenient for Naruto and Minato due to this], he may have engineered a combat style not requiring of hand seals. Minato surely functions well without hand seals for the most part and he is most definitely a 5 in hand seals. This is Tobirama we are talking about haha.

Good thread man, not enough people give credit to Tobirama for his Suiton because of the Part 1 scaling, but he is definitely second in my book [I'd like to assume he is above Kisame]. And also props to you on analyzing the feat where he marked Obito after he got blitzed. It is actually a big feat for Tobirama, but it's widely unnoticed.

I cannot wait till the new databook comes out though! XD

Thanks. Tobirama fanbase gets credited to that last find. xD​

Good thread.

Thanks man! xD


Excellent analysis on his abilities and i agree with the Databook state prediction.

Thanks man!
 

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tobirama isn't from amagekure. He's part of the leaf's senju clan. its one of the leaf's oldest clans and along with the uchiha, founded the village. As far as we know, he has always lived in the area that became the leaf, and he died while still being a leaf shinobi. he was a hokage for a time. i don't think he was ever affiliated with amegakure. Its all in the section of the manga where sasuke talks to the hokages. have you read that part yet? or are you just on the anime. you should read it :) you'll like it. But tobirama isn't from amegakure i don't think
 
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