Chapter 620- Tobirama bumped up to 2nd most powerful Hokage, Hiruzen 4th at best

[ItachiStyle]

Loved it. Chapter 620 both takes away Hiruzen's non-feat of fighting the (not trying anyway) revived Hokage, while also establishing:
- Tobirama can break the edo tensei (something nobody Kabuto revived can do, except Madara, meaning he just got bumped into the top 10 list probably), and Hiruzen (who tries to) can't do it
- In order to restrain Tobirama, Oro needed the boost from the 1st's cells that Kabuto lacked.
- Tobirama is a sensor
- Hiruzen is panting for breath after feeling the 1st's Chakra
- Hashi still can't be restrained by Edo Tensei.

Great chapter. Hiruzen's fanbase must be beside themselves. Looking forward to the next few chapters where they keep bumping the 1st and 2nd up.

 

[DrProof]

Should have put it into the Naruto Discussion isn't really a VS thread.

OT: Tobirama, is going to be ranked #1 just watch, his S/T technique still hasn't been shown.

 

[Joki]

Should have put it into the Naruto Discussion isn't really a VS thread.

OT: Tobirama, is going to be ranked #1 just watch, his S/T technique still hasn't been shown.

By just powering up his chakra Hashirama made 5 elite kage levels who are some of the strongest shinobi in the Narutoverse start shitting themselves and sweating including Tobirama. Hey I bet this ST technique is why they call him the God of Shinobi and not Hashirama right, or maybe why Tobirama made Edo Tensei his bitch and Hashirama didn't? HAHAHAshirama solos 20 Tobiramas effortlessly lololol gg

 

[ItachiStyle]

In fairness Tobi would have been able to snap Kabuto's Edo Tensei like a twig it seems, something none of the other Kage could do.

 

[Draphsin]

By just powering up his chakra Hashirama made 5 elite kage levels who are some of the strongest shinobi in the Narutoverse start shitting themselves and sweating including Tobirama. Hey I bet this ST technique is why they call him the God of Shinobi and not Hashirama right, or maybe why Tobirama made Edo Tensei his bitch and Hashirama didn't? HAHAHAshirama solos 20 Tobiramas effortlessly lololol gg

Bold is false, it was tobi who roused his chakra, and both of them made the cracks

OT: i disagre, IMO tobi>hashi

 

[Boston Rob]

It was obvious from the beginning what Hiruzen is fourth in the list, i mean DRS is his most powerful move..

 

[TheEvilOne]

I'm not sure about this. Maybe he is 2nd the strongest, but then the 3rd must be Tsunade. She is a Senju after all22.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

lol, Minato destroys Tsunade.

 

[TheEvilOne]

lol, Minato destroys Tsunade.

With what? Rasengan? Don't be ridiculous.
btw, where I said she is stronger then the Yondaime? I said logically she should be the 3rd strongest Hokage.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

With what? Rasengan? Don't be ridiculous.

Tsunade has nothing to touch him with.

Also, stop underrating Rasengan. It's not that weak.

 

[KidGamer65]

With what? Rasengan? Don't be ridiculous.
btw, where I said she is stronger then the Yondaime? I said logically she should be the 3rd strongest Hokage.

You say she should be the 3rd strongest Hokage but then go on to say you never said she was weaker than Minato?

Minato beats Tsunade mid diff.

Tsunade is the weakest Hokage anyway.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

You say she should be the 3rd strongest Hokage but then go on to say you never said she was weaker than Minato?

Minato beats Tsunade mid diff.

Tsunade is the weakest Hokage anyway.

Hiruzen is the weakest.

 

[KidGamer65]

Hiruzen is the weakest.

Prime Hiruzen>Tsunade. She would have problems with Old Hiruzen let alone Prime Hiruzen who is MUCH MUCH stronger than Tsunade.

So no Tsunade is the weakest.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Prime Hiruzen>Tsunade. She would have problems with Old Hiruzen let alone Prime Hiruzen who is MUCH MUCH stronger than Tsunade.

So no Tsunade is the weakest.

Do you have proof? No, you don't have.

 

[KidGamer65]

Do you have proof? No, you don't have.

I have proof that she would have problems with Old Hiruzen, that's proof enough.

Tsunade is the weakest, why can't you fanboys deal with it?

If you think that someone like Tsunade stands a chance against Prime Hiruzen, a God of Shinobi then you are clearly a delusional fanboy. Anyone who understands the manga correctly knows Tsunade is the weakest by far.

 

[HadouKage]

Prime Hiruzen>Tsunade. She would have problems with Old Hiruzen let alone Prime Hiruzen who is MUCH MUCH stronger than Tsunade.

So no Tsunade is the weakest.

I have proof that she would have problems with Old Hiruzen, that's proof enough.

Tsunade is the weakest, why can't you fanboys deal with it?

If you think that someone like Tsunade stands a chance against Prime Hiruzen, a God of Shinobi then you are clearly a delusional fanboy. Anyone who understands the manga correctly knows Tsunade is the weakest by far.

I agree with Slug, we have no proof of prime hiruzen, what is old hiruzen gonna do against Tsunade?

 

[KidGamer65]

I agree with Slug, we have no proof of prime hiruzen, what is old hiruzen gonna do against Tsunade?

I didn't say Old Hiruzen would beat her, I said that she would have problems with him. The only way she stands a chance against Prime Hiruzen is if she can stomp Old Hiruzen, which she can't do.

If you read the manga and understand it correctly you would know Hiruzen in his prime is stronger than Tsunade.

-Called God of Shinobi due to his strength.
-Called the professor due to his mastery of jutsu.
-Even in his old age, DB stated that him and Orochimaru were on par.
-Old Hiruzen is miserable when compared to his Prime.

It doesn't take half a brain to figure out he is stronger than Tsunade especially with the bolded statement.

 

[HadouKage]

I didn't say Old Hiruzen would beat her, I said that she would have problems with him. The only way she stands a chance against Prime Hiruzen is if she can stomp Old Hiruzen, which she can't do.

If you read the manga and understand it correctly you would know Hiruzen in his prime is stronger than Tsunade.

-Called God of Shinobi due to his strength.
-Called the professor due to his mastery of jutsu.
-Even in his old age, DB stated that him and Orochimaru were on par.
-Old Hiruzen is miserable when compared to his Prime.

It doesn't take half a brain to figure out he is stronger than Tsunade especially with the bolded statement.

I'm seeing no manga feats, I only see what people said, what does he have that can beat her?

 

[KidGamer65]

I'm seeing no manga feats, I only see what people said, what does he have that can beat her?

When talking about a character with no feats you use character statments, common logic. If you are expecting to see manga feats of Prime Hiruzen then leave now.

Only someone who truly can't understand the manga would think Tsunade can beat Prime Hiruzen, when Old Hiruzen was stated to be on par with Orochimaru.

Like I said, it only takes half a brain to understand this, but of course there will always be those who disregard manga statements since they foil their beliefs.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

I have proof that she would have problems with Old Hiruzen, that's proof enough.

Tsunade is the weakest, why can't you fanboys deal with it?

If you think that someone like Tsunade stands a chance against Prime Hiruzen, a God of Shinobi then you are clearly a delusional fanboy. Anyone who understands the manga correctly knows Tsunade is the weakest by far.

Problems? What problems exactly? Healing from a C rank Katon? Dealing with Enma? Outlasting him?
Yes, Hiruzen was the God of Shinobi, but with his arsenal he can't KILL Tsunade. Btw, the Prime Hiruzen can't use the Shikki Fuuin. And thats the only way he can deal with Tsunade.

And if you accept his hype, then you should accept Tsunade's hype too: She stated she won't die in a battle as long as her seal is active and she has chakra.