Chapter 619- Confirmed. hashirama is the God of shinobi!

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The debate of who the strongest hokage is over as Kishi just made it more clearer that hashirama is the strongest hokage.
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i wonder what the fanboys will have to say about this.

I like the way you post this page but don't post the next page were he laughs that title off.
 

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Hashirama be dat Shinobi no Kami. If he says let there be light, then light there shall be. Enma cannot harm a God. A God who creates life.

He is the alpha and omega. The morning and evening star. 10,000 Sarutobis would bow before his might.
 

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Wth?

Hashirama is A God of shinobi..A

there are three..
so6p,
Hashirama
Hiruzen

If anything this just shows what level prime hiruzen was on to get a title of god of shinobi after hashirama


This changes nothing.. hiruzen still has strongest hokage hype

this. The only thing we have to go on right now is still hype, and Hiruzen had some pretty insane hype in part 1. He was stated to be the strongest Hokage, whether hashi is a god or not lol. Not saying he's stronger, just saying that the hype points to it.
 

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what did it settle? orochimaru said hiruzens a god of shinobi. amegakure and konan said nagatos a god of shinobi. gaara said madaras a god of shinobi (though kabuto siad madaras merely a fraction of the ACTUAL god). juubi is a projenitor and creator god. of those gods, hiruzen is the most impressive since he did it without being a uchiha or senju.
being called a god is pretty common in hype. whenever your miles above everyone else, you get a god complex from your peers. if hashirama was truly a god of shinobi how come he let madara escape with his cells? how come he didnt stop his brother from creating vile immoral jutsu? how come he couldnt stop the first great shinobi war?
 

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So hiruzen being god of shinobi was just part 1 hype. Hashirama being called that in part 2 is just character fact.
wtf? did you ever think that its the other way around and suigetsu saying that is merely what he heard orochimaru say? hearsay gets deteroriated and unreliable over time. thats why i believe nagato being hyped like a god as absolutely true because that is a contemporary primary source we hear it from. hashi and hiruzen are long dead legends and are treated as thus
 

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Hashirama be dat Shinobi no Kami. If he says let there be light, then light there shall be. Enma cannot harm a God. A God who creates life.

He is the alpha and omega. The morning and evening star. 10,000 Sarutobis would bow before his might.

Of course.
 

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Secondly suigetsu called him the god of shinobi, INFRONT of hiruzen, did you see his reaction?? It's like he already knew and accepted it. And why did no1 pay attention to hiruzen? Read between the lines it's obvious that this was a MSG to people who think hiruzen> hashirama
why would hiruzen start talking **** about his sensei in front of the other hokages? more like he knows hes stronger and decided to keep quiet. hashi was worthless in part 1 but god in part 2? not buying it.
 

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lol at kishi handing hiruzens hype over to hashirama like it was his all along.
 

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never happened. in fact hiruzen barely acknowledged his senseis. despite the respect and reverence he afforded them in part 1. i guess sasuke was more important
 

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why would hiruzen start talking **** about his sensei in front of the other hokages? more like he knows hes stronger and decided to keep quiet. hashi was worthless in part 1 but god in part 2? not buying it.

its people like you that prove kabuto right. hashiramas strength is so great that not even the readers can believe in his strength. its quite funny actually.
 

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Wth?

Hashirama is A God of shinobi..A

there are three..
so6p,
Hashirama
Hiruzen

If anything this just shows what level prime hiruzen was on to get a title of god of shinobi after hashirama


This changes nothing.. hiruzen still has strongest hokage hype
This. Btw don't try to start flame wars with this thread.
 

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its people like you that prove kabuto right. hashiramas strength is so great that not even the readers can believe in his strength
what strength? all he is right now is hype. kabuto can eaisly be wrong just like akatsuki was wrong about nagato being invincible. hashirama was at full power/prime and he died. how do you explain that? if his strength is as great as the legends say madara should not have lived so long and hashirama definitely shouldnt have been gushing blood down his face
 

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I do find it funny.

Hashirama gets caleld god of shinobi, This makes him the strongest hokage.

Hiruzen gets called the god of shinobi, This is false hype and doesn't count xd.

Double standard much.
This.
 

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what did it settle? orochimaru said hiruzens a god of shinobi. amegakure and konan said nagatos a god of shinobi. gaara said madaras a god of shinobi (though kabuto siad madaras merely a fraction of the ACTUAL god). juubi is a projenitor and creator god. of those gods, hiruzen is the most impressive since he did it without being a uchiha or senju.
being called a god is pretty common in hype. whenever your miles above everyone else, you get a god complex from your peers. if hashirama was truly a god of shinobi how come he let madara escape with his cells? how come he didnt stop his brother from creating vile immoral jutsu? how come he couldnt stop the first great shinobi war?
Hashirama couldn't stop his brother and bring peace because maybe he was too soft.
what strength? all he is right now is hype. kabuto can eaisly be wrong just like akatsuki was wrong about nagato being invincible. hashirama was at full power/prime and he died. how do you explain that? if his strength is as great as the legends say madara should not have lived so long and hashirama definitely shouldnt have been gushing blood down his face
Maybe fighting Madara and the Kyubbi proved to be a tough fight even for the god of shinobi, which isn't surprising considering how powerful they both are.
 

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Maybe fighting Madara and the Kyubbi proved to be a tough fight even for the god of shinobi, which isn't surprising considering how powerful they both are.
maybe hashirama shouldnt have had any trouble considering his abilities are perfect counters for both (bringer of darkness, wood dragon) and he had his wife's help (she sealed kurama). but he did. if hes supposed to be second only to the sage his performances should reflect that. and nothing about him does. he gushed blood, got his powers taken, and eventually died in a fight like a loser leaving his douchebag bro to keep persecuting uchihas.
i like how you say "the" god of shinobi. like he was the only one to be called that. by suigetsu no less.
 

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what did it settle? orochimaru said hiruzens a god of shinobi. amegakure and konan said nagatos a god of shinobi. gaara said madaras a god of shinobi (though kabuto siad madaras merely a fraction of the ACTUAL god). juubi is a projenitor and creator god. of those gods, hiruzen is the most impressive since he did it without being a uchiha or senju.
being called a god is pretty common in hype. whenever your miles above everyone else, you get a god complex from your peers. if hashirama was truly a god of shinobi how come he let madara escape with his cells? how come he didnt stop his brother from creating vile immoral jutsu? how come he couldnt stop the first great shinobi war?
If the sage of six paths was a god why couldnt he stop himself from dying
Why couldnt he turn his eldest son from his bad ways?
Why didnt he lead the bijuus to the right path himself?
Why didnt he end all wars and suffering by himself?
 
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