[Spoilers] Chapter 581 - New Jutsu: Izanami

[Luamek]

i just can't wait til the next chapter..too many cliff hangers

 

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yeaa it does lose one of your eyes, just like izanagi

But i THINK that itachi is using it due to being an edo, so he could possibly just regenerate back to his previous eye state

idk , if he can spam an op jutsu like that, he has this in the bag





everyone predicted that my friend... there has been many many threads about izanami.. not only that but the other kami names that kishi did not use yet

I definitely feel like itachi will use it, and since edo is perfect he wont lose any sight or something of the like (maybe he will lose sight and not give a shit since hes dead), Kabuto will be pissed and realize his uh-oh and be forced to undo edo. Just my opinion, itachi would think like that

 

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It would be a total mind**** if itachi just like defeats "dragon sage" kabuto like that...i smell kishi bullshyt abrewing

for real, where was this in the fight against sasuke, and why isnt it mentioned on the uchiha stone thing in the hiding place under the mat like all the other techs. (narutogenius's stop...rhetorical question..there is no answer)

I know kishi always uses shinto gods or whatever for sharingan techs but this pulling OP jutsu out of his ass needs to calm down a bit

 

[Watatsumi]

I think Izanami is an ocular jutsu that must be used by 2 MS users (you know, the collaboration type). Both users combine their ocular powers to use it, and the one who actually uses it gets struck blind.

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wow just another fake ass jutsu that kishi created to claim that sasuke is stronger than naruto.... that same ole bullshit!!!! :flaw: weak chpter also:scorps:

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So, it looks like the Uchiha haters have started their rant. No surprise, lol
Sasuke needs a powerup such as this if he has to be on par with Naruto.

 

[ReapTermin]

Izanami stands for Godess of Creation. Itachi will probably turn illusion into reality, the opposite of what Izanagi does.

 

[Dark Kitsune]

yeah but kabuto has had a back up for everything so far; obsorbing orochimarus cells, the mass edo tenseis, edo madara the second sage of six paths, and now this dragon sage mode, which btw im pretty sure there is more to it than kabuto has explained. maybe kabuto even has a back up for sharingan techniques as well

 

[Sukalotta Kok]

yeah but kabuto has had a back up for everything so far; obsorbing orochimarus cells, the mass edo tenseis, edo madara the second sage of six paths, and now this dragon sage mode, which btw im pretty sure there is more to it than kabuto has explained. maybe kabuto even has a back up for sharingan techniques as well

Does he have a back up for izanami? No one knows about this but itachi as far as we know. How can you counter something you have no info on? All of his "back ups" are busy at the moment, edo madara's fighting the kages, Kabuto hasn't summoned an Edo since Madara and I bet it won't a problem for Itachi let alone Sasuke, it would be highly recommended for him to because odds are against him, but I doubt he will.

 

[Kiiszame]

Same as izanagi only instead of casting it on yourself it's cast on someone else.

 

[serpiente clan]

Stop this. Treat we alll now that sasuke is the uchiha we not ability is hes eye..
1.amaterasu is itachi ms
2.he will never use this new ability
3.he will never goin to be equal to naruto
4.he is the most ga,y villian ever

he said i am goin to destroy i villige that is oready destroyet,hes brother said in his face i am itachi uchiha from the leaf and he is still want to hate konoha... itachi hate his clan and love konoha even is sasuke use izanami itachi will lovw konoha and hate his clan...jjajajajajajj i am not hater

 

[pmj]

It would be funny if kishi starts talking about how there is someone is Sasuke's and Itachi's immidiate bloodline family who is from the senju clan. Just a thought.

 

[MangekyouJ]

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I think you lose your eyesight, no different to izanagi. Tbh i knew that such a technique exists, ill have to wait and see its true power. Judging by how it works its the superior of the two.

Itachi, he never seizes to amaze me

I just mentioned that convo we had lastnight about that...lol:scorps:

 

[light761]

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Tbh i already knew what it did a will back because i read on myths anyway and the way kishi has said what izanagi does, it makes sense to assume that izanami would be the opposite.

So izanagi casts genjutsu on the user and turns reality into illusions.

With izanami it casts genjutsu on the opponent and turns illusions into reality. Therefore basically itachi can determine any of his opponents fate with this jutsu alone.

Also he is dead anyway therefore even if he loses and eye, it doesnt matter although due to edo tensei he might regain it back. He might be using edo tensei's regeneration abilities to his advantage

But if itachi uses izanami to stop edo tensai and looses his eye...then edo tensai will be over and itachi wouldn't be able to regain his eye....:sy:

 

[Codex]

Ok, didn't read all the pages, so my apologies if it's been said a dozen times before, but... I think it's pretty clear that Izanami does cause blindness. Itachi says "Uchihas have a power ... in exchange for losing their light." Sasuke assumes he's referring to Izanagi (as the readers do since this is the only such jutsu we were previously aware of that fits the description). Itachi seemingly had no intention of bringing up Izanagi, so his statement that this power/jutsu results in blindness must been in reference to Izanami.

 

[light761]

If itachi imagenes or makes a genjutsu in his mind that kabuto stops edo tensai then doesn't this means itachi will also die in the process, u know.

 

[ZomgAChicken]

Wouldn't Itachi survive the Edo Tensei being canceled since he is not being controlled by Kabuto anymore?

 

[light761]

But Kabuto is the one who brought Itachi back to life. So I think if Kabuto stops edo tensai itachi will die....

 

[bik_zz]

As others said too, I assume izanami creates future of other person either in a good or bad way. Since itachi said, "it's prepared", i think he has prepared kabuto's defeat and how to stop edo tensei through izanami and may be he will loose both his eyes. I assumed that because he asked sasuke to stay close to him. that would mean he wants to keep track sasuke's position for not to attack him. I am just guessing. haha. But it makes some sense to me..

 

[SupErAkaTsuKI]

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Its already need said that hashirama's dna is needed for izanagi.
I believe you dont need hashirama's dna so to speak but the will of fire will allow a sharigan uer to use either if they dont have the dna of the person who started the will of fire

u believe? dats d problem, no one says anything about dis except u (possible or not, we still don't have a clue).. tobi stated u need senju & uchiha's Dna to complete izanagi.. after d jutsu sharingan eye closes 4ever, while rinnegan don't.

Will power?, somehwat. Danzo did have intention of protecting konoha, but no he didnt have the will of fire. Anyway for all you know you dont need hashirama's dna for izanami at all. Also im rather suspicious that an uchiha forbidden technique requires senju dna.

how sure r u dat Danzo ddn't have d konoha's will of fire when in fact he became HOKAGE! On d contrary to wat u jaz sed, -every shinobi / clans in konoha embraces d will of fire except maybe for d Uchiha's.

Another theory would be that people with shairgans but ARE NOT uchiha's need senju dna for either izanagi and izanami. That would explain danzo, but might also hint that tobi isnt an uchiha

ur theories mght be gud but so far, we still don't know bout dis.. So i'l stick with what tobi said.. u need an uchiha & senju's dna to complete the technique, perhaps dis is d reason y nagato can't use dis jutsu.

Fails?, doubt itachi will take such irsky move for it to fail.#Also what do you mean by afford to be reckless, he has his brother to protect as well as the ninja world in ending the technique, but also has made a promise to sasuke. Wouldnt say reckless at all

According 2 ur statement, dis jutsu won't fail 100%? My God, U r praising him so much.. It's true dat Itachi is a genuis, but like wat he sed "every jutsu has a weakness". so u can't rili say it will work 100%., but den agen i blieve dat dis jutsu will determine d outcome of deyr battle..

 

[Hako]

Sorry...has anyone even thought of how Izanagi and Izanami is used? Why they go in pair? The cost of using such eye techniques and why Izanami was never used previously? Why Danzou or Tobi or others that had several sharingans never used both techniques at the same time?

First: The skill's abilities...

Izanagi is confirmed to cast a illusion on the caster to make his reality a illusion, hence, changing it however, he or she chooses.

Izanami is said to decide one's destiny, if you think about it logically, it means the ability to decide the outcome of a target, aka making a caster make a illusion targeted at the target become reality.

Second: Partner Techniques and Cost to such OP Techniques

There are more than one possible answer:

One realistic conclusion to this answer is due to the nature of the cost of Izanami. There is a high chance that Izanami does not simply take the light of your eyes after using it. It is strongly hinted from the fact that no one living had used it that the technique may very well either damage the user's body or ultimately take the life of the caster of Izanami, hence the cost related to the myth behind Izanami being sent to hell. Izanagi on the other hand, controls the reality of the caster, hence if used in unison with Izanami, would nullify Izanami's huge cost of death itself, but would still probably end up losing both eyes or maybe even save the eye that used Izanami. However, it seems that a eye closes after using Izanagi even while in a illusion controlled state, so it's highly possible you lose both eyes no matter what and Izanagi could only save the caster from dieing.

Another realistic conclusion is that the two techniques simply complement each other, one makes oneself invulnerable, the other kills the opponent making winning a 100% chance. However, I highly doubt Kishi would make it this simple...hence my personal favorite as a solution is still the first idea.

Third: Why didn't anyone attempt to use these pairs of techniques?

This question is a huge mystery, however there's one conclusion I thought was most logical and realistic:

The ability to use Izanagi and Izanami at the same time is extremely difficult to use in battle, especially controlling both jutsu at the same time may very well be impossible for a normal uchiha, not mentioning non-uchiha users.
There is also a high chance that to use both eye techniques at the same time one must possess the Mangekyou Sharingan.

Danzou probably knew about Izanagi and Izanami, but probably due to the fact that he is not a uchiha and not as skilled at controlling it, he can't use both and hence he would not risk dieing from using Izanami. When Danzou was about to die, he still didn't use the skill, either he lacked the chakra to activate it or to use Izanami and Izanagi together, they can only be used in Mangekyou Sharingan form.

The other solution is that simply Danzou did not know about Izanami, he probably learned Izanagi from forcing information out of uchihas. Izanagi and Izanami were probably two technique that were not recorded in the stone tablet only known through verbal knowledge sharing. Hence even saskue did not know about it. Itachi did say his mentor was the "True" Uchiha Madara, hence maybe Madara did know about both Izanagi and Izanami and taught Itachi. The fake Madara would never sacrifice his space/time ability sharingan to use such techniques. Izanagi used up his left eye which I doubt had space/time abilities. The real Madara, judging from how he "magically" pulled out a meteor from his ass, probably DID use Izanami. Again, since Madara and Itachi are Edo Tensei Bodies, the highly possible cost of Izanami being death of the user is negated, but then again all this could be wrong.

One more thing, if Izanagi is claimed a forbidden technique within the uchiha clan, then it was highly likely it was a rule made by the clan elders that may have once achieved the Mangekyou Sharingan and designed the ruling for future members that may awaken it. "Fake" Madara once said that people need Senju powers to use Izanagi, perhaps he meant Izanagi is a skill which those without the Mangekyou can still use however only with the power of the senju when the sharingan are normal sharingans. This would explain the ruling and the confusing wording of "Fake" Madara's claim.

These are all high quality assumptions and predictions of the plot holes, hope you consider them and enjoy!

 

[nells0]

So there we have it. Izanami. What do you guys think the actual specific ability this justu grants the user? Do you lose the sharingan light when using it? What did Itachi mean by 'its been prepared'? Do you think it requires both Senju and Uchiha DNA?

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IT probably does the opposite of izanagi and work on the opponent but at the cost of 2 eyes.

OR

IT can work its way back in time erasing kabuto from history thus making kabuto's life an illusion.