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Well, i can't really understand something: Why does itachi say that it's not worth having a sharingan if you don't have an uchiha body for it to respond, but when madara is saying the story of the rikudo sage he says that the senju (younger brother) had the sage's body and the uchiha (older brother) had the sage's eyes. Shouldn't then the most powerful user of the sharingan then be a senju with uchiha eyes, since he would have both the eyes and body of the sage?
 

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yeah, just like kishi's spoiler
next chapter spoiler?
Well, i can't really understand something: Why does itachi say that it's not worth having a sharingan if you don't have an uchiha body for it to respond, but when madara is saying the story of the rikudo sage he says that the senju (younger brother) had the sage's body and the uchiha (older brother) had the sage's eyes. Shouldn't then the most powerful user of the sharingan then be a senju with uchiha eyes, since he would have both the eyes and body of the sage?
maybe senju's body will be compatible with sharingan since its carrying rikudo's sage genetics(sage's body with life force and physhical energy) but i think not all senjus are gifted, maybe just a few of em bcoz the gen could be lost along with mixed married etc.
 

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Hey guys, nice to be here with all those who were from NC, and nice to find some new members here. And as a gift for Christmas, here is a CONFIRMED SPOILER!!!!!!!!!

ナンバー477 イタチを語るな
Number 477: Don't speak of Itachi

ダンゾウの不可解な能力… !!
Danzou's baffling ability!

ダンゾウ「やはりか… 須佐能乎… 身を守るにはもってこいだな」
Danzou: "As I should expect, Susanoo is ideal for protecting one's body"

かりん(どういう事だ!?さっきので確実に死んだハズ!!感知できるダンゾウのチャクラは一つ だけ… 影分身じゃないのは確か!なら… 幻術か!?)
Karin: (What's up with him?! There's no doubt he should've died just then! There was only one source of Danzou's chakra, with me able to sense him, so there's no way it was Kage Bunshin! If that's the case...could it be genjutsu?)

ダンゾウ「!」須佐能乎の攻撃 「ゴツ グチャ!」
Danzou: "!" Susano'o attacks *sfx Goggcha!*

かりん「!」スッダンゾウ「攻撃力も申し分ない」
Karin: "!"
Danzou: "Impeccable offensive power as well."

サスケ「… 」
Sasuke: "..."

かりん(サスケの中のチャクラの乱れは感じられないし… 私のチャクラも安定してる… サスケも私も幻術にかかってる訳じゃない… 一体どんな術だ!?)
Karin: (I can't feel any imbalance in Sasuke's inner chakra...and my own chakra is stable...so it can't be that Sasuke and I are caught up in a genjutsu. So...what kind of jutsu is it?!)

須佐能乎の拳がダンゾウに 「ガコ」
Susano'o makes a fist to Danzou *sfx Gaco*

かりん「きゃ!!」
Karin: "Kya!"

サスケ「チィ!スッ天照!!!」
Sasuke: "Tch! Amaterasu!"

ダンゾウ「!ぐっ!!」ダンゾウの体に天照の火が
Danzou: "Guh!" Danzou's body is engulfed in Amaterasu's fire

サスケ「ハァハァ」
Sasuke: *Huff-huff*

マダラ「須佐能乎に天照までバテるぞ
能力を確かめるにしてはやりすぎだな」
Madara: "Susano'o and Amaterasu even...that'll wear [him] out. That's overdoing it in testing out [his] abilities"

かりん「!?」
Karin: "?!"

ダンゾウ 「バッ スゥー」
Danzou: *sfx bassuu*

かりん「後ろだ!!」
Karin: "Behind you!"

サスケ「!!」
Sasuke: "!"

ダンゾウ「風遁・真空玉!!!フッー 」 サスケ 攻撃を喰らう
Danzou: "Fuuton: Shinkuugyaku" *sfx fuu*
Sasuke gets hit by the attack

サスケ「口寄せの術」ボン
Sasuke: "Kuchiyose no jutsu"

かりん「ふう… 」
Karin: "Phew..."

マダラ「ほう… 新しい口寄せか いつの間に… 」
Madara: "Oh? A new kuchiyose...since when did he get that?"

ダンゾウ「天照… 久しぶりに見たなやはりイタチの弟だな
Danzou: "Amaterasu...it's been a while since I've see that. You are indeed Itachi's little brother."

かりん「… !」「スッ」ダンゾウの腕の写輪眼の瞳が一つ閉じる
Karin: "...!" *sfx su*
One of Danzou's Sharingan pupils shut

かりん「… !… 」
Karin: "...!"

サスケ「お前がイタチを語るなど言ってるんだ」
Sasuke: "Didn't I tell you to not speak of Itachi"

ダンゾウ「兄弟… 能力は同じとて眼が悟るものはこうも違うものか…
お前にとってイタチの真実などさほど重要ではない
お前は憎しみを手あたり次第にぶつけたいだけだ
うちは一族の犠牲を無駄にしている」
Danzou: "Brothers...so while your powers are the same, what your eyes discern are different...the truth of Itachi and its implications isn't important enough to you/ You lie in the grip of hate, just wanting to lash out/ Making the sacrifice of the Uchiha clan for naught"

ダンゾウ「スゥー風遁・真空波!!」 サスケ 避けて ダンゾウを切り 腕が落ち瞳が 閉じる
Danzou: *sfx suu* "Fuuton: Shinkuuha!" Sasuke avoids it, cutting off Danzou's arm which falls and has a pupil shut

かりん「… !!… これって… 」スウー落ちた 腕が消える
Karin: "...! This..." *sfx suu* It falls then the arm disappears

かりん「!!ピクン」
Karin: "!" *sfx-surprise*

ダンゾウ「無駄だ 」サスケダンゾウを睨み付け
Danzou: "It's no use."

ダンゾウ「!?」
Danzou: "?!"

ダンゾウ「!?」サスケの回りにカラスが そしてイタチの姿が
Danzou: "?!" Around Sasuke there's crows, and then Itachi's figure

ダンゾウ「!これは… !!」 死んだはずのイタチが… 何故!?終わり
Danzou: "This is...!" Itachi, who should be dead....why?! The end

There are pics also, check out the comment #48 outside the forum, Naruto Manga Chapter 476.
 
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based on the spoiler seems like the following fight will be all genjutsu (again) which is kinda confusing or just a waste of pages (again) seems like the fight with itachi and sasuke (again) still hoping it will be different this time.
 

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Yeah, genjutsu and again genjutsu, but I am curious about Danzo's secret, he escaped Amaterasu, Susano'o, Sasuke's direct hit with his blade... and Karin said, that there were no bunshins, so, i think he has a special ability like Madara's... but another "immortal" sounds like bull-shit to me

Btw, this chapter won't be up tomorrow on the internet, I think saturday or sunday if we are lucky, or, 100% next week.
 
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Here he is ^^... the awesome Semaka! In times like these the spoiler is like...air

Although(as expected) not much happened, a genjutsu battle is on the wave(as expected; confirmed by Danzou himself), Naruto is left out of this (as expected), but even though most of them were 'expected' there are a few things that are intriguing me.

Semaka said:
Sasuke: "Kuchiyose no jutsu"
Semaka said:
Madara: "Oh? A new kuchiyose...since when did he get that?"
Just before reading Madara's question I wondered the exact same thing...

Semaka said:
Around Sasuke there's crows, and then Itachi's figure
Danzou: "This is...!" Itachi, who should be dead....why?!
Indeed ... WHY? O__O

So Itachi gave Sasuke his techniques, that we know, thus explaining the crows, but what's with the figure apparition? It sounds just ... >__> (When I see the manga I might not find it as stupid as I do now *shrugs* )

Semaka said:
but another "immortal" sounds like bull-shit to me
I second that.
And i hope he will prove to be as original as until now.
One Hidan is(was) enough, one Madara is enough, one Minato is(was) enough.
If he wants to give him a unique, hard-to-beat jutsu as these dudes had/have, then he should find something new for him, otherwise it will be less appealing to see the same thing over and over again at random characters.(Although I wouldn't mind seeing a replay of Minato's jutsu...if it's done by Naruto ^^)

Irengninja said:
well i personally hope that those artifact were'nt vanished with itachi's death
(Now that venger's out of the picture, you are the one with the loooong nick :|:D )

Maybe it came in a "All in one" Pack with the Susano'o :|
If not, then Zetsu might know something about this, its whereabouts or such, after all he was the last conscious man there(and the one that had to do...uhm...his dirty(disgusting) business)

venger said:
i mean why would madara visit naruto and not capture him when he can?
For the same reason he didn't capture any other Jinchuuriki. This is something all of us are wondering. There must be a reason behind it though.

A "logical" response would be that Kakashi and Yamato were with him, but in front of his time-space jutsu it would've been futile even if the whole world was with him :|

venger_STEELHEART said:
i knew i should have used the long name instead
If it will make you feel better I will only quote you this way xd


Btw...I wish you all a very Merry Christmas ^^ !!
 
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Thanks Semaka! Keep up the spoilers! I don't want to comment at this time as I will wait for it to come out. If you celebrate Christmas, then I bit you Happy Blessings and wonderful pleasures. Just so you know what I will be doing, my Naruto 25 dvd set is already out. I will be watching it from the very beginning. I miss Jiraiya already! :-(

Happy times everyone. See your guys next week.
 

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(Now that venger's out of the picture, you are the one with the loooong nick :|:D )
well not really, mine only had 10 character long :D:D:D

Maybe it came in a "All in one" Pack with the Susano'o :|
If not, then Zetsu might know something about this, its whereabouts or such, after all he was the last conscious man there(and the one that had to do...uhm...his dirty(disgusting) business)
zetsu seems didn't know where it's whereabouts he only knows the story from oro:p some says its seperated but still uncertain.
 

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Our community is not so bad on NB, you guise had to make your own thread about your old website U_U
Why not just get over it and get out there on NB... I'm a pretty well known member, so if you guise have any questions you can come ask me. My posts say otherwise, but that's because my main account got banned.
I'll help you get known here, and If you buddy up with me, I promise no one will say sh*t to you as a noob! :D

Come VM me :D

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Clearly, Itachi is an illusion, there is no need to explain why I think that. I think Danzo's invincibility lies in his Sharingans. The more eyes close, the less times he can revive, or so I think. He is clearly not a bunshin when he is "killed" every time by Sasuke, because, he doesn't go puff... he bleeds like a real human (anime human). I think karin will do the thinkin' for Sasuke, and tell him Danzo's secret. I think Sasuke's left eye will be severely damaged after this fight... overuse of Amaterasu. So, if this chapter was put on the internet this friday, well, 2 weeks without Naruto from now on.
 
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Just an observation to the latest episode. I believe every sharingan of danzou has its special ability..because the part when Karin was observing Danzou was about to perform a jutsu..one of its eye in his arm was closed..I don't know how does this relate..but i have a feeling it does..and even though that it may look that Sasuke has the advantage because he is performing Tsukuyomi(im just guessing its Tsukuyomi..but it must be..) in the last page..Danzou still has so many tricks in his sleeve knowing that he has Uchiha Shisui's eye..and he was one strong Uchiha..just like Itachi..and I doubt those other Sharingan were great Shinobis as well.
 
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the eyes must have a pattern or something..for example two sharingans open and one is closed and then it performs a jutsu and so on..and Karin would be the key to figure that out and tell Sasuke..but I think Danzou is good at making illusions..
 
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Hey now, this was a surprise, I really wasn?t expecting chapter 477 to come out this week since the buzz that week was that it would be out in two weeks. I was looking forward to a break from blogging over Christmas too, but if Kishi doesn?t take a break from pumping these chapter out I guess neither can I stop posting about them. Since it?s Christmas Eve and all, I?m sure most people will be busy (myself included) so I?ll try to keep this one short and prevent myself from going off on my usual rants.

I?ll skip the formalities and jump to the big upset in this chapter: the Return of Itachi. I?m sure Itachi fans must have been pulling their hair out and doing flips off the walls when they saw the last page of chapter 477. I?m usually not in support of bringing back dead characters, in any form, but Itachi deserves an exception. One of the reasons is that there?s no way he?d just let his little brother fall into the hands of Madara; like what Minato did for Naruto, Itachi has also done for Sasuke. It?s very unlikely that this is a full resurrection of Itachi, so we?re left with a couple of options on what he is.


Like with the Amaterasu, this is another ?gift? left by Itachi to protect Sasuke. Perhaps Itachi had predicted that Sasuke would encounter Danzo after his death and was even aware of Danzo?s Sharingan abilities. He then planted this trigger if ever Sasuke and Danzo fought.
This Itachi is part of a Tsukoyomi genjutsu set up by Sasuke to catch Danzo off guard. Observe Sasuke on page 16, he definitely looks like he was triggering something when he was staring at Danzo with his Mangekyou Sharingans. Sasuke has experienced Itachi?s Tsukoyomi effects plenty of times to copy them and simulate them as if the real slim shady was present. Itachi would also be a pretty useful psychological weapon to use against Danzo, besides Sasuke probably knows too little about Danzo to use someone else?s likeness.
This is a genjutsu (possibly Tsukoyomi) set up by Madara to give a hand to Sasuke. Maybe he observed something interested regarding Danzo?s techniques and wanted to test him out himself. This option is least likely to occur as it is rare for Madara to lend a hand in battle especially when it isn?t certain Sasuke will lose yet.

Danzo used quite a few Fuuton techniques this chapter, so even though I don?t want to make the comparison, he probably shares the same Wind element chakra that Naruto has. As for an explanation on Danzo?s jutsu that keeps bringing him back to life, it?s still up in the air ? though we get a few more hints in this chapter. It certainly is not your normal clone business or else Sasuke?s Sharingans or Karin?s senses would have detected it already. And it doesn?t look to be genjutsu as Karin said in this chapter that she hasn?t detected any chakra imbalance in Sasuke or herself. So is it the real Danzo that keeps getting crushed, burnt and sliced by Sasuke yet returns back to normal every time? I was thinking it could be a space-time jutsu ability much like Madara?s own, but Danzo is clearly being physically damaged by Sasuke?s attack every time ? he just reappears like nothing happened. Madara seemed to have noticed something when Danzo grabbed Sasuke?s throat on page 13, was he just surprised at Danzo?s speed or was it something else? What Karin observed about Danzo is the most revealing. First, she sees one of the eyes on Danzo?s arm close on page 10; this suggests a limit on how much Danzo can use his Sharingans. Perhaps an eye closes every time Danzo uses a Sharingan ability or maybe every time he is miraculous resurrected. The other observation Karin makes is on page 14-15 after Danzo?s arm gets cut off. Not only are the eyes closing one by one, but the entire arm just fades away. I really want to call it a space-time jutsu, but seeing as none of Danzo?s Sharingans are the Mangekyou variety, is this even possible?
 

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HEY GUYSSSS..chapter 477 is out on Narutocentral..go and see..Sasuke vs Danzou..Danzou is kickass maaaann..by the way..merry Christmas to you brothers!.. :D
Thank you for the notice, knight ^^, I wasn't expecting the new chapter! Guys, it seems we received our Christmas gift from Kishi after all XD

Semaka said:
The more eyes close, the less times he can revive, or so I think.
In other words...the number of eyes represent the 'number of lives' he has !? (then this 'jutsu' is Cat-jutsu o.0 If this is the case then Sasuke has a long way to go before defeating the 'real' Danzou.).
Once, it was speculated that the owners of the eyes are still alive, trapped somewhere, then maybe if this proves to be true, when an eye is closed, its soul is sacrificed in exchange for Danzou's life. Or something similar.

Lord said:
I’m sure Itachi fans must have been pulling their hair out and doing flips off the walls when they saw the last page of chapter 477.
Yeah, I did!!!! :D

On a serious note...I really wonder what's the jig with Itachi.
Is it Itachi's doin'? (Just like in the Minato-Naruto case) Or is it Sasuke's?

If Sasuke is the one doing it...then for what reason did he made a clone of Itachi? Does he plan to kill Danzou, throw Itachi because he dared 'to say his name'?

If it's Itachi's doin' then maybe that clone has a mind of its own which will mean that Sasuke and Itachi will both fight against Danzou(Man...I would kiiiiill to see them fighting together). This doesn't seems at all possible, but one can still hope :D

Or...this simply announces the start of the Tsukuyomi and here I am looking to much into it (-_-)
 
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Just read the chapter with Sasuke vs Danzo and I have noticed a few things. It seems that Madara wanted to test Danzo and it may be due to the fact that he new that Danzo was performing some unusual jutsu. No even he knew the extent of Danzo's power. I am beginning to understand the true meaning of ROOT. Its not about training the most talented Ninja but about development of forbidden jutsu. He is no different from Orochimaru. He did it under the Third Hokage in the dark caves of Kohoha.

Using Sasuke to exploit Danzo was Madara's ploy to “kill two birds with one stone” so to speak. He would see Danzo's power and test Sasuke to a limit to determine how powerful he had become. It turns out that Itachi have place two fail safes in Susake. The first we saw attack Madara, and now we see the other that is against Danzo. At some point Itachi would have deduced that Sasuke would fight Danzo. How we will see what else Itachi did for his brother.

Karin is slowly getting the sense on Danzo's jutsu. She will figure it out and tell Sasuke how it works. I have also noticed that with each technique, a different eye is closed. I think someone mentioned this before. Think of it as him replacing each eye that was closed on his arm with the one on the fight. Its like having many Sharingan without having to replace your eye. I have not figure out how he is able to use this jutsu that make it look like he has many lives. There must be some limit, and I don't mean chakra. I think he can only make a limited number of this replicas.
 

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:hypertobi:madara was trying to figure out danzou?s secret to his technique, or he was using a technique of his own we were not shown. either way i think that one little pannel with madara and his sharingan is going to be a big player in the next chapter.
 
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