[Discussion] chakra element thing is completely out of picture

[krunalgohel]

initially where naruto got his wind chakra, lot of things about chakra elements happened. it was as if every jutsu was referred in terms of chakra elements. but now there are possibilities that naruto can find more elements in his chakra or develop new techniques or kekki genkei, the whole concept completely went out of window. after sage mode naruto should have more of such techniques. now and in his new beast mode, he should think of more techniques rather than just the techniques that will kill the enemy instance. he can't use rasenshuriken or beast bomb on everyone. also no of clones naruto can make got reduced to 3 because he had to maintain sage mode of clones and now he can't use it at all. this is really not done, at-least with the techniques. show naruto as a more developed ninja now using jutsus like those in hokage battle royal, not couple of techniques with limitation everytime...

 

[Perkele311]

I think that he has learned enough Jutsu for his age. I don't think that Naruto is going to go straight into Sage mode or the Beast Chakra Cloak. I think he is going to continue to fight with Shadow clones and slowly progress to more powerful "modes" and techniques.

I am sure if the manga moves forward with enough time there really isn't a limit to what he can learn (within narutoverse reason). What he was previously lacking is now not a issue i.e. Chakra control or even people to train him in Wind Techs and Possibly another Element. I know it would be cooler to just give him techs that came out of nowhere.

But its Naruto he is just now starting to develop compared to his potential... Hokage Naruto is going to be different is what I think. Unless the ending of the manga kills my hope for a Adult Naruto Hokage...

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

But its Naruto he is just now starting to develop compared to his potential... Hokage Naruto is going to be different is what I think. Unless the ending of the manga kills my hope for a Adult Naruto Hokage...

only way naruto would grow to be adult hokage is if sasuke becomes a good guy. i either see him and naruto fighting to the death or sasuke dying by himself. if sasuke dies n naruto lives naruto will prob never forgive himself for not saving him. he mite even off himself.

 

[Modaro]

initially where naruto got his wind chakra, lot of things about chakra elements happened. it was as if every jutsu was referred in terms of chakra elements. but now there are possibilities that naruto can find more elements in his chakra or develop new techniques or kekki genkei, the whole concept completely went out of window. after sage mode naruto should have more of such techniques. now and in his new beast mode, he should think of more techniques rather than just the techniques that will kill the enemy instance. he can't use rasenshuriken or beast bomb on everyone. also no of clones naruto can make got reduced to 3 because he had to maintain sage mode of clones and now he can't use it at all. this is really not done, at-least with the techniques. show naruto as a more developed ninja now using jutsus like those in hokage battle royal, not couple of techniques with limitation everytime...

Dude I totally agree I'm a bit disappointed when all naruto can do is a 3punch 2kick 1rasenagn/rasenshuriken combo, its getting pretty shameful. But in away naruto is at the average level for number of techniques at his age just look at his pairs. everyone has basically one base jutsu that they use, except sasuke. Sasuke has unlocked both his elements on his own while naruto only has one that he wouldn't of been able to discover on his own. Compared to sasuke naruto is lacking techniques he only has rasengan and shadow clone, he needs another jutsu. U_U

 

[leafeater]

Dude I totally agree I'm a bit disappointed when all naruto can do is a 3punch 2kick 1rasenagn/rasenshuriken combo, its getting pretty shameful. But in away naruto is at the average level for number of techniques at his age just look at his pairs. everyone has basically one base jutsu that they use, except sasuke. Sasuke has unlocked both his elements on his own while naruto only has one that he wouldn't of been able to discover on his own. Compared to sasuke naruto is lacking techniques he only has rasengan and shadow clone, he needs another jutsu. U_U

Sasuke learned fire from his dad and lightning from Kakashi, not on his own. For Naruto, it's about guts and not the number of jutsu.

 

[Rambo200]

<div class="bbWrapper">So whats ur point. U can't have whatever u want. Naruto is growing and his new techniques r also growing.<br /> Do u see Sasuke now using his chidori. He always uses the next version.</div>

 

[AndreJNZ]

So whats ur point. U can't have whatever u want. Naruto is growing and his new techniques r also growing.
Do u see Sasuke now using his chidori. He always uses the next version.

Quite right. Sasuke has made the Chidori his own. He has modified it so much way beyond what Kakashi could do.

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

what sucks with naruto though is that while Sasuke has been doingall these cool things with not just his lightening moves but also his fire moves (remember those lion looking fireballs he throw at itachi) naruto hasnt done much with his wind element except infuse it in his rasengan to make rasenshuriken..

like why havnt naruto did like a wind clone? or use wind blades like Asuma? why hasnt he picked up a weapon to channel his wind chakra like Sasuke has a katana and channels his lightening in it?!

im just saying

 

[psukkar]

Dude I totally agree I'm a bit disappointed when all naruto can do is a 3punch 2kick 1rasenagn/rasenshuriken combo, its getting pretty shameful. But in away naruto is at the average level for number of techniques at his age just look at his pairs. everyone has basically one base jutsu that they use, except sasuke. Sasuke has unlocked both his elements on his own while naruto only has one that he wouldn't of been able to discover on his own. Compared to sasuke naruto is lacking techniques he only has rasengan and shadow clone, he needs another jutsu. U_U

but dude how often does sasuke even use his fire jutsu these days, he basically relies on ms and lightning.

Naruto for his age has more destructive jutsu than most in the series.
Its not usual for a ninja to have that many high class jutsu except for kages. If you look at that way Naruto is more dangerous than those who know a lot low classed jutsu.

shadow clones(his first jutsu) - A class
Rasnegan(second jutsu he learend) and those MASSIVE ones too - A class
Wind rasengan - Greater than S-class according to kahashi
Sage mode - Only jiraiya and him have used this jutsu among humans.
Fox mode- obviously something Naruto has only access too at the moment.

Now hes working on another rasnegan variation who knows what side affects that may have.

Naruto has more high class jutsu and RARE jutsus than most. That's why his techs work in most situations and doesn't need to use many jutsu.

Back to you OP,

Your right at the start of the start of part 2 elemental jutsu came in the picture a lot, but when the rinnegan came in the picture Yin and yang is focused on. Kishi has spend a lot of time on elemental elements now he must spend time on the last element he didn't explain very well at the start part 2, yin/yang.

Kishi in my opinion is covering all bases at the right time, that's all really.

 

[Modaro]

but dude how often does sasuke even use his fire jutsu these days, he basically relies on ms and lightning.

Naruto for his age has more destructive jutsu than most in the series.
Its not usual for a ninja to have that many high class jutsu except for kages. If you look at that way Naruto is more dangerous than those who know a lot low classed jutsu.

shadow clones(his first jutsu) - A class
Rasnegan(second jutsu he learend) and those MASSIVE ones too - A class
Wind rasengan - Greater than S-class according to kahashi
Sage mode - Only jiraiya and him have used this jutsu among humans.
Fox mode- obviously something Naruto has only access too at the moment.

Now hes working on another rasnegan variation who knows what side affects that may have.

Naruto has more high class jutsu and RARE jutsus than most. That's why his techs work in most situations and doesn't need to use many jutsu.

Back to you OP,

Your right at the start of the start of part 2 elemental jutsu came in the picture a lot, but when the rinnegan came in the picture Yin and yang is focused on. Kishi has spend a lot of time on elemental elements now he must spend time on the last element he didn't explain very well at the start part 2, yin/yang.

Kishi in my opinion is covering all bases at the right time, that's all really.

I'm not asking for naruto to learn a super tech or something I just want him to have something else(at least on tech more) to rely on rather than seeing the same move and variation's again. Yes sage mode is good but it the same old moves just more powerful.

You speak of yin and yang element well naruto has a huge mas of yang chakra at his disposal and kishi isn't doing anything about that.

 

[AndreJNZ]

what sucks with naruto though is that while Sasuke has been doingall these cool things with not just his lightening moves but also his fire moves (remember those lion looking fireballs he throw at itachi) naruto hasnt done much with his wind element except infuse it in his rasengan to make rasenshuriken..

like why havnt naruto did like a wind clone? or use wind blades like Asuma? why hasnt he picked up a weapon to channel his wind chakra like Sasuke has a katana and channels his lightening in it?!

im just saying

He uses the elemental techs where they are needed and works. The fire-lion type to heat up the atmosphere; lighting to pierce targets,numb targets, neutralize earth element techs (Deidera comes to mind). So whats the problem?

 

[NarutoVsGoku]

He uses the elemental techs where they are needed and works. The fire-lion type to heat up the atmosphere; lighting to pierce targets,numb targets, neutralize earth element techs (Deidera comes to mind). So whats the problem?

yea thats is my point is that sasuke utilizes his 2 affinities.. i feel like naruto hasnt and it sucks.. i just wish naruto put his wind to more use like sasuke

 

[AndreJNZ]

yea thats is my point is that sasuke utilizes his 2 affinities.. i feel like naruto hasnt and it sucks.. i just wish naruto put his wind to more use like sasuke

I agree. Naruto needs variation in his list of Jutsu. Allthough, the ones he has he does use very well. (If he gets to hit his intended target)

 

[krunalgohel]

I'm not asking for naruto to learn a super tech or something I just want him to have something else(at least on tech more) to rely on rather than seeing the same move and variation's again. Yes sage mode is good but it the same old moves just more powerful.

You speak of yin and yang element well naruto has a huge mas of yang chakra at his disposal and kishi isn't doing anything about that.

may be now or in the future naruto doesn't need all the techniques that can destroy everything. he's learning more destructive techniques that are good for this war but he'll need techniques more than that in the future..

 

[leafeater]

When you face off against Akatsuki like Nagato and are able to win, you can do whatever the hell you want jutsu wise. I'm not complaining because Minato primarily used FTG and no elemental affinity jutsu from what we've seen.

 

[Perkele311]

The one thing Naruto needs is someone to train him with a sword or something. Or Danzo's wind kunai technique. It is true just from reading other peoples posts it seems like a couple low level jutsu would help him become more well rounded. Right now his techs do seems to be focused on super destructive force... Hard to use with friends around in the case of the RS.

 

[Ishikage]

I think we're all forgetting what massive effort it takes Naruto to learn anything. He couldn't do anything but sexy no jutsu until he learned kage bunshin. It takes high stress for him to function. Learning wind releases and simple jutsu don't stimulate his ADHD mind.

 

[veggetta13]

Dude I totally agree I'm a bit disappointed when all naruto can do is a 3punch 2kick 1rasenagn/rasenshuriken combo, its getting pretty shameful. But in away naruto is at the average level for number of techniques at his age just look at his pairs. everyone has basically one base jutsu that they use, except sasuke. Sasuke has unlocked both his elements on his own while naruto only has one that he wouldn't of been able to discover on his own. Compared to sasuke naruto is lacking techniques he only has rasengan and shadow clone, he needs another jutsu. U_U

Frog kumite, Shadow clones, Rasengan, Rasen Shuriken, Sage mode, Thousand Years of Pain..

most of the character s would kill to even get close to Frog Kumite or Sage mode...he's the only character along with the frog elders able to do chackra punches(that's using the chakra in you to punch)

I think he's cool, what do you want?? Killer Bee looks like a guy who spends too much time training