chakra control underrated.

[Kαmi]

Only problem is stating something that is factual doesn't = wanking. . Though claiming it is wanking kind of implies you are hurt, that the thread isn't about your fav character.

well you can have shikamaru's smarts .. but ain't gonna win the fight if you ain't got chakra control.

Why would it matter if you made a thread wanking my favorite character when I could do it myself?:eww: It's the fact that you're saying chakra control is underrated and you immediately jump to talk about Tsunade and Sakura Lol that is wanking right there. You could have used anyone with good chakra control or even used a hypothetical situation with someone with good chakra control and you wouldn't have come off as wanking.

And if you read properly, I never said smarts alone win a fight. I said all the things I mentioned tied in together is what wins a fight. Also, Shikamaru beat Hidan mainly with his smarts so that was a bad example.

 

[Xāvî1]

I thin KH is on his own special day .Lol
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Is he on heat?? JK

Why would it matter if you made a thread wanking my favorite character when I could do it myself?:eww: It's the fact that you're saying chakra control is underrated and you immediately jump to talk about Tsunade and Sakura Lol that is wanking right there. You could have used anyone with good chakra control or even used a hypothetical situation with someone with good chakra control and you wouldn't have come off as wanking.

And if you read properly, I never said smarts alone win a fight. I said all the things I mentioned tied in together is what wins a fight. Also, Shikamaru beat Hidan mainly with his smarts so that was a bad example.

Yet shikamu with all his smartness still had to fight hidan... and was almost on a point of loosing for a moment..

 

[Kαmi]

I think that it all falls under chakra control section. Sakura and tsunade have precise chakra control to fit cells healing and restoration its not suitable for fighting. Others have power chakra control used to create and control huge masses of chakra to defeat the enemy. So in core its chakra control and stamina that win the fight in most cases.

But what good is superior chakra control and stamina against someone with superior speed, taijutsu, reaction speed, ninjutsu, power, and intelligence? Like I said, I admit chakra control is a factor, a key one too, but it's not the only factor in a fight. There are many factors and simply being excelled in one will not guarantee a win.

Yet shikamu with all his smartness still had to fight hidan... and was almost on a point of loosing for a moment..

But he didn't lose so that's irrelevant. Plus I'm pretty sure things went exactly as planned for Shikamaru anyway...

 

[deadp00l]

With an avatar like his, it wouldn't surprise me Lol I can hardly take the guy seriously.

NudeHashirama

 

[KingHashirama]

Who needs to learn techs like bijuu bomb? Naruto? didn't you see naruto performing bijuu bomb with out going full kurama..
And what is Rasengan for you then?
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Rasengan is a technique Naruto needed a whole to learn. Now can you show me where he can use it with his feet?

I bring out Madara and Jins because your thread is titled 'chakra control underrated', and not 'chakra control is important', it was to show you that on what power level the current manga is.:yeah:
Yes I was talking to you, but I was talking about people except you and me, the other guys on the base. Let's keep that aside for a while.
1. Tsunade/Sakura already have inherent strength, so it's not actually proper measure of how chakra control increases your abilities. Talking about jumping prowess, it is useful in normal 'finding an opening type of battles', they aren't important in large battles, where 'finding an opening' isn't important at all, and if they are then why Sakura/Tsunade doesn't use it every time?
2. We can play that other way around too, because they never came across good genjutsu users like Itachi.
3. Tsunade protected herself from it, she doesn't tank it, there is a huge difference.

Alrighttyyy. =D

1. Sakura and Tsunade don't have inherent strength though. Their strength even Tsunade's is derived from chakra control. I mean hell it allowed Sakura to cause the damage = to the damage done by the tails of the all the tailed beasts.. but sakura did it with 1 punch.. that says a whole lot about chakra control bro. Jumping prowess was only a example, if you can jump that high , it is only logical you can go farther in 1 leap.

2. Yea but in the end it is a fact that chakra control can be used to break genjutsu. So playing it either way is still the same as Tsunade and Sakura not having faced a genjutsu user.

3. But that is tanking it. she used her own body, with her chakra around it.. that my friend is called tanking.

Why would it matter if you made a thread wanking my favorite character when I could do it myself?:eww: It's the fact that you're saying chakra control is underrated and you immediately jump to talk about Tsunade and Sakura Lol that is wanking right there. You could have used anyone with good chakra control or even used a hypothetical situation with someone with good chakra control and you wouldn't have come off as wanking.

And if you read properly, I never said smarts alone win a fight. I said all the things I mentioned tied in together is what wins a fight. Also, Shikamaru beat Hidan mainly with his smarts so that was a bad example.

Sakura and Tsunade are the only ones with the highest chakra control.. and the ones who have used it in battle..... why would i not talk about them.. its like talking about Mokuton's prowess.. and not talking about Hashirama.. That is called giving examples, not wanking.. big difference.

I never claimed you said smarts win the battle alone.. but i simply gave you a example that in a ninja battle chakra control is the bigger component.. ninjutsu/taijutsu (partially)/Genjutsu are all powered by chakra control.

 

[Xāvî1]

Rasengan is a technique Naruto needed a whole to learn. Now can you show me where he can use it with his feet?



Alrighttyyy. =D

1. Sakura and Tsunade don't have inherent strength though. Their strength even Tsunade's is derived from chakra control. I mean hell it allowed Sakura to cause the damage = to the damage done by the tails of the all the tailed beasts.. but sakura did it with 1 punch.. that says a whole lot about chakra control bro. Jumping prowess was only a example, if you can jump that high , it is only logical you can go farther in 1 leap.

2. Yea but in the end it is a fact that chakra control can be used to break genjutsu. So playing it either way is still the same as Tsunade and Sakura not having faced a genjutsu user.

3. But that is tanking it. she used her own body, with her chakra around it.. that my friend is called tanking.


Sakura and Tsunade are the only ones with the highest chakra control.. and the ones who have used it in battle..... why would i not talk about them.. its like talking about Mokuton's prowess.. and not talking about Hashirama.. That is called giving examples, not wanking.. big difference.

I never claimed you said smarts win the battle alone.. but i simply gave you a example that in a ninja battle chakra control is the bigger component.. ninjutsu/taijutsu (partially)/Genjutsu are all powered by chakra control.

I will show you if you can show me a signle shinobi using ninjutsu with his/feet. except pein,

Naruto can use ninjutsu from his back i assume he can do it with his feet but can sakura or tsunade do attacks from their back

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[xxSAGExx]

You can troll/flame all you want and get butthurt , but in the end the post shall remain and the manga shall remain the way it is.


Chakra control is darastically underrated, why? because when people think of chakra control from Tsunade/Sakura they think of strength.... that is it. However that is a false misconception or thinking. Chakra control can enhance any part and aspect of the body. For example:

- speed can be increased with chakra control as shown by Sakura against Ino.
- genjutsu can be broken out of with high chakra control..
- Reflexes and sensing is increased with high chakra control, since sensing requires some chakra control.
- Hearing can be enhanced with chakra control, shown by Tsunade as to how she was able to hear orochimaru's heart from quite a distance.
- chakra control can also be used against someone like Gaara or Mei or Kisame and others with techniques that are somehow water and non-solid. My point here is with chakra control people like Tsunade/Sakura can run on sand/water put out by people.
- Fire can be tanked


I don't think people even realize the OP the mastery of chakra control is, and how one can use it in battle. If you want to flame or whine go ahead.

Who ever underrated it? Sasuke shown to use chakra in his legs to move faster long before Sakura as shown when he was fighting the skilled Haku

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. He shown more chakra control by grabbing his kunai with the chakra in his feet to throw it as he did in the chunin exam

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. In Shippuden, he's skilled enough in his chakra control to shape manipulate his chidori into needles and a sword, he even shape manipulated actual lightning using his chidori. Same for Amaterasu/Enton.

Naruto learns by body experience, he needs to feel it to be able to do it, this is why explaining things to him seemed difficult to Kakashi (who actually wondered how Jiraiya taught him rasengan) and Pa toad. Every one of Naruto's training had a form of chakra control which ultimately prepared him for handling Kurama's chakra. In SM/KM/BM/BSM he's a sensory type, increases his speed (yet to master full speed), can do chakra transfer jutsu, and knows extremely advance shape manipulation and nature transformation,ect.

Kiba use chakra control to heighten his sense of smell that surpasses ninja dogs. Kakashi and Itachi both have low stamina and need great chakra control in use the right amount of chakra, Hyuuga's use chakra control to control their chakra flow (Neji shown) and can release if from any chakra opening (Neji shown). Ino and her dad shown to have sensory abilities, her dad talked about tracing Nagato's chakra rods and Ino showed to sense Naruto's will

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. I do find it weird that her dad had to use a helmet and help from others to talk to the SA but Ino can do it herself, thank you Kurama chakra! haha.

 

[Wabbit]

1. Sakura and Tsunade don't have inherent strength though. Their strength even Tsunade's is derived from chakra control. I mean hell it allowed Sakura to cause the damage = to the damage done by the tails of the all the tailed beasts .. but sakura did it with 1 punch.. that says a whole lot about chakra control bro. Jumping prowess was only a example, if you can jump that high , it is only logical you can go farther in 1 leap.

Ok they use chakra control to enhance their strength...but when did that happened..

 

[KingHashirama]

I will show you if you can show me a signle shinobi using ninjutsu with his/feet. except pein,

Naruto can use ninjutsu from his back i assume he can do it with his feet but can sakura or tsunade do attacks from their back

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Sakura = uses it for the explosion jump =]

Also, no he uses chakra arms.

it's because of plot you idiot , you're over thinking things which makes you look

like a fool , actually .
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How am i overthinking when its literally said, she can focuses all of the chakra in her body on 1 point.. while Naruto has no feat of that... O-o.

Who ever underrated it? Sasuke shown to use chakra in his legs to move faster long before Sakura as shown when he was fighting the skilled Haku

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. He shown more chakra control by grabbing his kunai with the chakra in his feet to throw it as he did in the chunin exam

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and

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. In Shippuden, he's skilled enough in his chakra control to shape manipulate his chidori into needles and a sword, he even shape manipulated actual lightning using his chidori. Same for Amaterasu/Enton.

Naruto learns by body experience, he needs to feel it to be able to do it, this is why exampling things to him seemed difficult to Kakashi (who actually wondered how Jiraiya taught him rasengan) and Pa toad. Everyone one of Naruto's training had a form of chakra control which ultimately prepared him for handling Kurama's chakra. In SM/KM/BM/BSM he's a sensory type, increases his speed (yet to master full speed), can do chakra transfer jutsu, and knows extremely advance shape manipulation and nature transformation,ect.

Kiba use chakra control to heighten his sense of smell that surpasses ninja dogs. Kakashi and Itachi both have low stamina and need great chakra control in use the right amount of chakra, Hyuuga's use chakra control to control their chakra flow (Neji shown) and can release if from any chakra opening (Neji shown). Ino and her dad shown to have sensory abilities, her dad talked about tracing Nagato's chakra rods and Ino showed to sense Naruto's will

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. I do find it weird that her dad had to use a helmet and help from others to talk to the SA but Ino can do it herself, thank you Kurama chakra! haha.

And those are people who aren't masters in chakra control and haven't reached the pinnacle.

Thanks for the post man, it furthers my point.

Ok they use chakra control to enhance their strength...but when did that happened..

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[Blinkie Uchiha]

Yes chakra contol is important, not most important... but still plays a part in making a strong ninja. Other factors like kekkai genkai and use of weapons contribute. Also no one said that chakra control is under-rated. Don't make up a fact just to blindly go against it, when there's nothing to go up against in the first place.

 

[Xāvî1]

One more thing about chakra control...

Hyuga's have better chakra control then sakura, Low chakra level jounins have better chakra control to utilize it in battle wisely...So conclusion not only your fav there are lots of shinobis with better chakra control out there then sakura...

Controlling Bijuu's level Chakra is another thing, not even someone like sakura can dream of...

Sakura = uses it for the explosion jump =]

Also, no he uses chakra arms.


How am i overthinking when its literally said, she can focuses all of the chakra in her body on 1 point.. while Naruto has no feat of that... O-o.

And those are people who aren't masters in chakra control and haven't reached the pinnacle.

Thanks for the post man, it furthers my point.

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Prove where she uses chakra to jump.. Isn't chakra arms part of the chakra?

Isn't bijuu dama focusing chakra in one point

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[D R E X]

How am i overthinking when its literally said, she can focuses all of the chakra in her body on 1 point.. while Naruto has no feat of that... O-o.

I was referring to the statement which you claimed that Naruto couldn't use rasengun

with his feet .

Yes chakra contol is important, not most important... but still plays a part in making a strong ninja. Other factors like kekkai genkai and use of weapons contribute. Also no one said that chakra control is under-rated. Don't make up a fact just to blindly go against it, when there's nothing to go up against in the first place.

Wow ..... just wow , My kitty got some claws
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[iNotorious]

I would like to see Tsunade/Sakura getting out of Ma&Pa sound genjutsu with their ''perfect'' chakra control :|

 

[Wabbit]

@KH
but that is not equal..the scale of 9 huge bijuus is far greater than jubi minions flying away..jubi minions where human sized.

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[Narutoga]

Naruto formed rasengan in the air, does that count ?

 

[Xāvî1]

I would like to see Tsunade/Sakura getting out of Ma&Pa sound genjutsu with their ''perfect'' chakra control :|

forget ma, pa, Itachi, shishui, they can't even get out of kurenai's genjutsu.......

 

[Joker]

my cuz was bored, so i let her make me a avatar, X_X.



Oh but it is chakra control that allowed Tsunade to blitz an orochimaru who was literally staring at her...


Then you don't need to whine because i make threads about specific characters. .

Sure you can be the Tobirama fanbase.. and underrate Tobirama to try to please the Minato fanbase.. and only look like hypocrites who contradict the manga.

So its quite your choice to be mature and take the threads for what they talk about, or be immature and post about how a thread about underrating of chakra control usage in battle leads to flame wars, between the butt hurt fanboys.

If you are somone who likes pleasing people then that is your choice. I simply post what i have on my mind, i do not care if you people get mad over a thread about chakra control, because their fav character is put down by it. Because in the end, i don't bash characters.

Ohhh, someone's salty, smh.

 

[iNotorious]

Naruto formed rasengan in the air, does that count ?

Well adding sage chakra to the TBB, that's a lot of chakra control :|

forget ma, pa, Itachi, shishui, they can't even get out of kurenai's genjutsu.......

If shisui cast a genjutsu on tsunade/sakura, they're already doomed. Lol

 

[Wabbit]

I would like to see Tsunade/Sakura getting out of Ma&Pa sound genjutsu with their ''perfect'' chakra control

Just because they are expert at extreme chakra control at one field it cannot be applied at other

 

[iNotorious]

Just because they are expert at extreme chakra control at one field it cannot be applied at other

Well stated by kinghashirama they ''can''