Chakra and affinities.

[BenjerminGaye]

Kakashi went on to say jonin have minimum two affinities, I don't see what's the argument. A shinobi can use multiple chakra natures if they have the skill and just because they don't doesn't meant they lack the affinity.


If Hashirama only had one affinity he wouldn't be able to use KKG or genjutsu, if Sasuke had only one affinity he wouldn't be able to use Katon, Raiton and genjutsu all at the highest level.


Hirizen was praised because he had the skill to master all his affinities, most ninja can't be master of spades and Kakashi's statement was from the perspective of most ninja.


Nagato is another example of someone with multiple affinities.

stop confusing affinity with nature.
You can have one affinity:

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but multiple natures:

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The only thing that makes kekkei genkai special is the ability to use both at once:

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[salamander uchiha]

stop confusing affinity with nature.
You can have one affinity:

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but multiple natures:

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The only thing that makes kekkei genkai special is the ability to use both at once:

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Sorry bro affinity is nature.

 

[kiiro]

No, you just born with an affinity. Which means it is nature you are capable of learning faster. Kakashi says that you need to vhange your chakra.

It is even explained many time. It is a chakra control tecnic called elemental composition. Or something like that, Kakashi tried to add his natural element to his rasengan but failed due the complexity anf therefore created the chidori much easier.

 

[kiiro]

Every one has yin nature in NV. Refer back to the chapter on how chakra is created.

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Spiritul-Yin
Physical-Yang

Thats how far I can help you, manga

False. Databook shows who doesn't have ying or yang affinity. Every one has mental and physical energy bit maybe not ying or yang element.

 

[KidGamer65]

Lmao no. Your chakra having an affinity for a nature doesn't mean that you don't need to take extra steps to actually mold said chakra into your Ninjutsu, which is why Naruto had to train to learn how to mold Fuuton into his jutsu despite his chakra being wind by nature.

Chakra being wind natured=/=Chakra being literal Fuuton when it comes out of your body.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Sorry bro affinity is nature.

its not tho. Affinity is a predisposition towards a certain nature.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

If nature and affinity is the same thing why is it that kakashi who at that point knows 3 natures only shows 1 when putting his chakra in the special paper?

It they were one and the same then surely the paper would have wrinkled, got wet and crumpled. But it didn't, it only did 1 and mind you kakashi wasn't elementally recomposing his chakra.

 

[salamander uchiha]

its not tho. Affinity is a predisposition towards a certain nature.

It is the same the predisposed affinity/nature is natural and can be produced relatively easily after training. The others are actual changes you must make in your chakra which your not inclined to.

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Here Yamato confirming most people possess a single chakra nature / affinity. And gives the example of Uchiha or predisposition as you call it.

It's your dominant natural affinity/ nature which can be expressed physically. The other natures a person can learn and are done via handseals to cause the change in nature then used. So the paper wouldn't become wet or turn to dust just because of it. Since its not the natural affinity/nature.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

It is the same the predisposed affinity/nature is natural and can be produced relatively easily after training. The others are actual changes you must make in your chakra which your not inclined to.

its not the same stop using the slash as if they are synonymous

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use the scan where kakashi makes it clear there is a difference:

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Here Yamato confirming most people possess a single chakra nature / affinity. And gives the example of Uchiha or predisposition as you call it.

he says multiple natures not multiples affinities. Affinity= predisposition.

It's your dominant natural affinity/ nature which can be expressed physically. The other natures a person can learn and are done via handseals to cause the change in nature then used. So the paper wouldn't become wet or turn to dust just because of it. Since its not the natural affinity/nature.

so now youre agreeing with me that an affinity is a preposition that you lean towards but not a nature. Thanks.

 

[salamander uchiha]

its not the same stop using the slash as if they are synonymous

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use the scan where kakashi makes it clear there is a difference:

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he says multiple natures not multiples affinities. Affinity= predisposition.



so now youre agreeing with me that an affinity is a preposition that you lean towards but not a nature. Thanks.

Kakashi's confirming which nature your predisposed to that nature is your affinity. Are you denying that?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Kakashi's confirming which nature your predisposed to that nature is your affinity. Are you denying that?

No im denying the nothing that they are one and the same.

Kakashi's confirming which nature you're predisposed to. That's what you have an affinity towards. Affinity is synonymous with predisposition here. The nature itself is merely the subject.

Hiruzen/kakashi etc can use all 5 natures but that doesn't mean they have an affinity(or predisposition) towards all 5.

 

[salamander uchiha]

No im denying the nothing that they are one and the same.

Kakashi's confirming which nature you're predisposed to. That's what you have an affinity towards. Affinity is synonymous with predisposition here. The nature itself is merely the subject.

Hiruzen/kakashi etc can use all 5 natures but that doesn't mean they have an affinity(or predisposition) towards all 5.

The predisposition is to one nature or affinity the two are interchangeable provided context is understood.
The rest other natures are developed through training they can't naturally manifest their chakra into those natures through training and use hand seals to cause the change in nature. For the predisposed nature they don't need to change it they just need to being it out.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

The predisposition is to one nature or affinity the two are interchangeable provided context is understood.
The rest other natures are developed through training they can't naturally manifest their chakra into those natures through training and use hand seals to cause the change in nature. For the predisposed nature they don't need to change it they just need to being it out.

How many times do you need me to post the scan that clears that up. Dude flat out says:
Sasuke has 2 natures under his belt while you don't even know which one youre predispositioned to. Ill ask again. Why didn't kakashi's paper do all the if he has all three affinites? Dont worry ill answer for u, he has 1 affinity and 3 natures.


kakashi has already done water and earth tech's without seals.-_-