[Discussion] Can Zoro beat luffy in a fight??

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I'm sure it was the plan to lure the guy who kicked you ass in all arguments up till date to this thread. You must be a mastermind.

Stop talking out of your ass, start talking arguments.

Nobody is convinced by your < = > logic.



How about the use of haki to name just one.
I'm pretty sure you ran away in the last discussion we had because you got tired of picking sh*t out of you a**. Like the guy above me said before, Zoro's 1080 pound canon isn't even his all out attacks, where as we've seen Sanji's big attacks already. So thats why Zoro>>>>Sanji.
 

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I'm pretty sure you ran away in the last discussion we had because you got tired of picking sh*t out of you a**. Like the guy above me said before, Zoro's 1080 pound canon isn't even his all out attacks, where as we've seen Sanji's big attacks already. So thats why Zoro>>>>Sanji.
@Bold, yeah so how did you come to that conclusion?

I don't get why you (not so sure about you) and Zorø state that Zoro would high-diff. Sanji then proceed to add many greater than signs. It makes it looks like you're saying Zoro would beat Sanji with ease or something. As I was telling Zorø earlier, destructive feats. isn't everything. Hell's memories was pretty damn powerful and it could be compared to 1080 pound canon.
 

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I'm sure it was the plan to lure the guy who kicked you ass in all arguments up till date to this thread. You must be a mastermind.

Stop talking out of your ass, start talking arguments.

Nobody is convinced by your < = > logic.



How about the use of haki to name just one.
What has Luffy done with Haki that Zoro didn't replicate with 1080 cannon? Zoro has COO and COA. The only Haki Luffy used better so far COC which Zoro will most likely get anyways. Zoro has yet to use Asura in 3 years since the timeskip. Asura being by far his strongest move. Instead he used 1080 to replicate Luffy Grizzly Magnum feat.
 

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What has Luffy done with Haki that Zoro didn't replicate with 1080 cannon? Zoro has COO and COA. The only Haki Luffy used better so far COC which Zoro will most likely get anyways. Zoro has yet to use Asura in 3 years since the timeskip. Asura being by far his strongest move. Instead he used 1080 to replicate Luffy Grizzly Magnum feat.
Grizzly Magnum is stronger than 1080 cannon and the strongest move we've seen was his elephant gatling (CoA).

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What CoA feats has Zoro shown? A small scratch on Monet's face? Luffy has shown more CoA feats than Zoro has.
 

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@Bold, yeah so how did you come to that conclusion?

I don't get why you (not so sure about you) and Zorø state that Zoro would high-diff. Sanji then proceed to add many greater than signs. It makes it looks like you're saying Zoro would beat Sanji with ease or something. As I was telling Zorø earlier, destructive feats. isn't everything. Hell's memories was pretty damn powerful and it could be compared to 1080 pound canon.
Its comparable to Luffy>>Zoro.

Simplified is Luffy>Zoro>>Sanji. Just my opinion.

Zoro would high diff Sanji, but Luffy would extreme diff Zoro.
 

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Its comparable to Luffy>>Zoro.

Simplified is Luffy>Zoro>>Sanji. Just my opinion.

Zoro would high diff Sanji, but Luffy would extreme diff Zoro.
I still don't see the point of adding more ">" signs.


Luffy would be able to high-diff Zoro, similarly to how Zoro can high-diff. Sanji (but the gap between Zoro and Sanji is smaller than the gap between Zoro and Luffy). Luffy would extreme-diff. Zoro? Nah, Luffy would extreme-diff. someone like Law or Kidd (hype) or maybe the other way around.
 

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I still don't see the point of adding more ">" signs.


Luffy would be able to high-diff Zoro, similarly to how Zoro can high-diff. Sanji (but the gap between Zoro and Sanji is smaller than the gap between Zoro and Luffy). Luffy would extreme-diff. Zoro? Nah, Luffy would extreme-diff. someone like Law or Kidd (hype) or maybe the other way around.
Fair enough, but I have to disagree with your gap interpretation. I think the gap between Luffy and Zoro is smaller than between Zoro and Sanji.
 

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I'm pretty sure you ran away in the last discussion we had because you got tired of picking sh*t out of you a**. Like the guy above me said before, Zoro's 1080 pound canon isn't even his all out attacks, where as we've seen Sanji's big attacks already. So thats why Zoro>>>>Sanji.
Yeah, and I'm pretty sure that never happened. Because the last discussion we had was in the "Can Lord Franky defeat part 1 Zoro" thread, and you just bailed. So it's actually the opposite. and my point still stands, you're the dog with the tail between your legs here.

Also what the fu<k has Sanji to do with it in a Zoro v Luffy thread, stay on-topic instead of trying to derail every thread in a flame war so that you can wank Zoro some more.

What has Luffy done with Haki that Zoro didn't replicate with 1080 cannon? Zoro has COO and COA. The only Haki Luffy used better so far COC which Zoro will most likely get anyways. Zoro has yet to use Asura in 3 years since the timeskip. Asura being by far his strongest move. Instead he used 1080 to replicate Luffy Grizzly Magnum feat.
No, No, No.

Not the point.

Let me remind you what you said, after that you can go back putting words in my mouth or twisting the context again:

OP please stop listening these people. Noting I repeat nothing Luffy has done in the past 3 years since the timeskip has made him more impressive then Zoro.

I gave an example of one thing Luffy did better than Zoro which is haki. In all three categories.

You also state that we haven't seen Zoro go all out yet, the same goes for Luffy. You don't decide if we've seen Luffy's strongest attack yet. The fact that Luffy's pre skip end moves might now be his casual go to moves, might be a sign that he has far more in store. With the stuff he showed so far he won't make it against Doflamingo.

Also the damage Luffy did against the head of the stone giant was equal or greater since it was a blunt attack and it destroyed the head, where Zoro's attack was a cutting move, yet it didn't cut all the way through.


Fair enough, but I have to disagree with your gap interpretation. I think the gap between Luffy and Zoro is smaller than between Zoro and Sanji.
Again just drop the Sanji thing, it's getting pathetic man.
 
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<3 Z O R O B O Y S <3 be crazy ;)

Luffy is the physically strongest, most durable and fastest SH and also has the strongest Haki, don't cry <3 Z O R O B O Y S <3, just suck it up ... Life goes on, no need to give up on life just because Luffy is a tier above your fav <3
 
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I see that Algalon is as stupid as always Lol Who cares if Luffy is 100 tiers above Zoro? Not me at least, so i hope that makes you better sleep at night ;)

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Concerning the haki matter, i'd say that sure Luffy displays it practically on every and each panel he gets focused on, but does it really matter? A character isn't forced to use haki in every and each panel he gets focus on to know he has it, a character isn't forced to use it in every and each panel he gets focus on to prove his superiority in haki to someone who does. We have admiral Fujitora who rarely used haki yet(presumably). It depends on the character and capability. The thing is Zoro accomplish comparable feats to Luffy presumably without use of haki(presumably because invisible armament can happen), so Luffy enforcing all his hits to only replicate Zoro's feats is a testament in Zoro's skills if anything

On a side note though, Zoro used

1- COA barrier against Hyouzou
2- COO to detect Cariboo in the castle(while sleeping)
3- COO to sense Vergo's aura in the lab
4- COA to cut Monet's cheek

For the last example also pay in mind he incorporated it in the thin air, something we've not seen someone else doing(not saying they can't though). Coincidently though, Oda always seemed to make his armament usage happen off-panel or unexplained as if he was trying to preserve it for a later event. The fact remain however that we already know he has it. So you can't be bothered if he uses it or not in every and each panel he gets focus on when he isn't forced to. He could have used it against Monet for example, but the truth is he couldn't be bothered by her, hence he cut her vertically without applying haki to show her she would have died had he been serious. Zoro trains to be able to cut anything, which is probably the reason why Oda decided to make him more specialized in COA.
 

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no it doesn't
Luffy destroying half of Noah > anything Zoro ever did
Luffy at MF went through more >>>> than Zoro ever did ... and at the end he went berserk after losing Ace (post war arc)

They went through same amount of pain at TB and we clearly know who couldn't move a finger b/w those two.

Luffy did destroyed noa but that won't put him on a whole new level as even Zoro can pull that feat with repeated attacks
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Oh STFU, Zoro has done nothing to be put far ahead of Sanji, or has done anything to be even compared to Luffy after the TS.

Apart from spouting this non sense. You haven't explained what Sanji has done that can put him on par with Luffy & Zoro.

On the other hand a lot Zoro fans already posted why Zoro is far above Sanji. I am not felling like repeating the same shit again.
 

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I see that Algalon is as stupid as always Lol Who cares if Luffy is 100 tiers above Zoro? Not me at least, so i hope that makes you better sleep at night ;)
I know right, it's almost as if I'm just having fun with the fantards <3

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Yeah, and I'm pretty sure that never happened. Because the last discussion we had was in the "Can Lord Franky defeat part 1 Zoro" thread, and you just bailed. So it's actually the opposite. and my point still stands, you're the dog with the tail between your legs here.

Also what the fu<k has Sanji to do with it in a Zoro v Luffy thread, stay on-topic instead of trying to derail every thread in a flame war so that you can wank Zoro some more.




Again just drop the Sanji thing, it's getting pathetic man.
If you actually read the previous posts in the thread, you'd realize that Sanji was already brought into this thread before me, I was giving my opinion to their rankings.

Learn to read before you reply, it looks bad on your end.
And the Franky thread went like this:
Lovecook- the movie is cannon
Me- no its not, here's proof.
LoveCook- yea but Oda still oversaw it so I'm right
Me- No, you're not. The movie was not cannon.
LoveCook- *leaves*

@Algalon, you know whats better than Zoroboys?

ZoroHaters
 

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yea but according to you, any one who likes Zoro is a Zorotard. Hence, you must be a Zorohater.
I never said everyone who likes Zoro is a Zorotard, just a select few wankers, they migrate from thread to thread and instincively (and desperately) need to prove Zoro's superiority in various aspects of OP (usually compared to Sanji or Luffy), their religion is Zoro and they feed on misinformation and breathe false hope, their mating rituals, as of yet, are unknown ... but it is believed that they involve swords

It is an alien life form which started to appear recently, we hope to gather more information on it to be able to better protect ourselves , as of now the best defense we have against them are manga facts, the manga fact they are paricularly vulnerable too is something called "Ennies Lobby" which contains an ingredient called "doriki"
 
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I never said everyone who likes Zoro is a Zorotard, just a select few wankers, they migrate from thread to thread and instincively (and desperately) need to prove Zoro's superiority in various aspects of OP (usually compared to Sanji or Luffy), their religion is Zoro and they feed on misinformation and breathe false hope, their mating rituals, as of yet, are unknown ... but it is believed that they involve swords

It is an alien life form which started to appear recently, we hope to gather more information on it to be able to better protect ourselves , as of now the best defense we have against them are manga facts, the manga fact they are paricularly vulnerable too is something called "Ennies Lobby" which contains an ingredient called "doriki"
Too funny lol
Everyone is biased and/or will give more leniancy towards their favorite character man.
Zoro's my 2nd favorite character too, who's your first favorite? If I may ask.
 

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Too funny lol
Everyone is biased and/or will give more leniancy towards their favorite character man.
Zoro's my 2nd favorite character too, who's your first favorite? If I may ask.
No? You don't see the Sanji fanboys (including) myself saying that Sanji is stronger. We usually defend Sanji because he gets downplayed too much.
 
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