Can you FTG or Reverse summon yourself out of Kamuiland?

[TrollingSage]

Except that a snake does not have Sasuke's rinnegan.

Sasuke used a regular summoning technique, complete with hand seals. That hawk didnt come with the rinnegan. He had way before he even got EMS.

 

[The Necromancer]

Sasuke used a regular summoning technique, complete with hand seals. That hawk didnt come with the rinnegan. He had way before he even got EMS.

Animal summons aren't conjured out of nowhere, even for the Animal Path of the Rinnegan. Clearly the rinnegan gives the user the ability to summon in and out of the alternate dimensions.

The hawk is not special, the snake is not special. The eye is special.

 

[TrollingSage]

Animal summons aren't conjured out of nowhere, even for the Animal Path of the Rinnegan. Clearly the rinnegan gives the user the ability to summon in and out of the alternate dimensions.

The hawk is not special, the snake is not special. The eye is special.

If that was the case, Sasuke would have been able to escape the desert the same way he escaped Deidara's blast.

 

[The Necromancer]

If that was the case, Sasuke would have been able to escape the desert the same way he escaped Deidara's blast.

Yup. You're right.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Yup. You're right.

Many thing Kishi running away from explaining to us

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[Draphsin]

So chakra connection = he can't teleport via reverse summon? what?

No chakra connection = he can't teleport out of the dimension.

FTG = teleporting to the seal.... Minato can teleport people who are connected to his chakra to the seal...

FTG = teleporting to your chakra. If you can't connect to that chakra then how can you teleport to it? That's like saying how can you walk without putting your feet on the ground. He doesn't teleport to his chakra through magic, he's connected to it.

 

[End of Days]

Yes you can, its one of the many things that got changed towards the end of the series.
Summoning or related jutsus will work across dimensions.

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Sasuke summoning his hawk, the kages summoning naruto and the rest to themselves etc etc

 

[KingHashirama]

No chakra connection = he can't teleport out of the dimension.



FTG = teleporting to your chakra. If you can't connect to that chakra then how can you teleport to it? That's like saying how can you walk without putting your feet on the ground. He doesn't teleport to his chakra through magic, he's connected to it.

FTG will rip the Kamui dimension...

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So you right now just compared a chakra cloak connection, to a jutsu connection? now do show me, where it is stated he teleports to his chakra.. just let me know when you find it.

Summoning jutsu doesn't contain the chakra of the person being summoned.. no clue why you think FTG does..

 

[Draphsin]

FTG will rip the Kamui dimension...

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Irrelevant, pointless scan. It in no way shape or form proves your baseless claim. I have feats of FTG failing to teleport someone out & a scan stating that kamui is separate from other s/t jutsus, feats & hype >> vague hype.

So you right now just compared a chakra cloak connection, to a jutsu connection? now do show me, where it is stated he teleports to his chakra.. just let me know when you find it.

*Face. Desk* Now I remember why I avoid arguing with you, I always have to explain the most basic sh*t to you. U_U

What do you think the FTG jutsu formula is made out of? Butterflies & rainbows? He doesn't write down the seal, he places it, meaning it's made out of his chakra.

If you don't think the formula itself is made out of chakra then what do you propose it's made out of, or an even better question to ask would be what do you think it's even sealing? Again I ask, butterflies & rainbows? No, it's sealing his chakra at the very least.

Summoning jutsu doesn't contain the chakra of the person being summoned.. no clue why you think FTG does..

God, maybe because it does.

Again, what do you think

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is made out of? So it just appears out of nowhere? The fact that you create a summoning formula with your chakra & the fact that summoning jutsus even cost chakra in the first place is clear proof that there is a chakra connection being established.

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scan, look familiar? It should, because it looks like a summoning formula to me. Now why oh why would a jutsu that's meant to disrupt a chakra connection be similar in appearance to something that requires no chakra connection according to you? Summoning formulas establish the connection, just like how FTG marks establish one, & just like how contract seals disrupt one.

 

[FemmeFatale]

No, because it's a personal dimension like kaguya have, and sasuke didn't use that jutsu , but the again he didn't want to get away from sakura...........and the rest

 

[Demonic.]

The only reason Kaguya's dimensions took a toll on Obito was because they were not his native dimension. Logically it would take Kaguya just as much chakra to travel to the Kamui Dimension with her jutsu.

No. Obito said because the dimension was extremely far away.

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Ot: This is a pointless discussion. An FTG user will never be warped inside Kamui to begin with. FTG is the perfect counter to Kamui and Obito fans need to accept this.

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No chakra connection = he can't teleport out of the dimension.



FTG = teleporting to your chakra. If you can't connect to that chakra then how can you teleport to it? That's like saying how can you walk without putting your feet on the ground. He doesn't teleport to his chakra through magic, he's connected to it.

There is still a chakra connection, otheriwse this wouldn't have happened

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If the connection had cut off, the clone would have immediately gone poof. Furthermore,Minato and Tobirama can warp to their shadow clones instead of markings (fact) so theoretically this proves they can escape Kamui via this method. Even if you argue the connection dies out (no proof of that) they would still have enough time to jump.

 

[Angelic.]

gaaras sand stopped floating. gglmnop

 

[BLAZE]

Yes and No
depends on the side u r
obito/minato

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Only a fanboy believes that ftg cant escape.

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

No. Obito said because the dimension was extremely far away.

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Great post.
Ot: This is a pointless discussion. An FTG user will never be warped inside Kamui to begin with. FTG is the perfect counter to Kamui and Obito fans need to accept this.

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There is still a chakra connection, otheriwse this wouldn't have happened

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If the connection had cut off, the clone would have immediately gone poof. Furthermore,Minato and Tobirama can warp to their shadow clones instead of markings (fact) so theoretically this proves they can escape Kamui via this method. Even if you argue the connection dies out (no proof of that) they would still have enough time to jump.

Great post.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Hard to say. Kamuiland may be different.
DB says its sealed dimension.
And then obito trying to warp s/t user either huge PIS or validates all above.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I'd say no. If it could then kakashi would have been jumped along with the rest of the sa when Minato ftg'd them.

 

[Draphsin]

Ot: This is a pointless discussion. An FTG user will never be warped inside Kamui to begin with. FTG is the perfect counter to Kamui and Obito fans need to accept this.

Stop being close-minded, obito nearly warped minato away if not for prep, under certain conditions kamui alone can deal with FTG, it's when an FTG user has full info on kamui that it becomes a problem.

Not to mention obito has plenty of other ways to deal with his opponent, & kamui is still a great defense that a FTG user can't bypass if obito doesn't charge them head on.

There is still a chakra connection, otheriwse this wouldn't have happened

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If the connection had cut off, the clone would have immediately gone poof.

Untrue, clones have their own chakra pool. [

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] If their chakra was connected then the original wouldn't gain their memories after they disappear, but they would get them as they come.

You can connect to a clone's chakra pool but it's not constantly connected to the user, it's a separate mass of chakra.

Furthermore,Minato and Tobirama can warp to their shadow clones instead of markings (fact) so theoretically this proves they can escape Kamui via this method.

No because they can't connect to the chakra within the clone they want to teleport to.

Even if you argue the connection dies out (no proof of that) they would still have enough time to jump.

Kakashi had a

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, he lost it immediately after

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the dimension, & you

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obito once he enters his dimension. Both proof that the chakra connection will be severed. & It gets severed upon entering the dimension so they won't have time to jump.

 

[KingHashirama]

@Drapshin and his kamui wank to max!!!

- SAsuke summons eagle

- Rikudou and Kage summon all of them back


And this boy thinks Kamui is somehow better and stronger than Kaguya's dimension, when that ability makes Kamui look like a sissy shit.


Again, FTG is Minato summoning himself to the seal, stop comparing it to the chakra cloak. And which moment of chakra cloak are you talking about anyway? When Obito took KAkashi to the kamui land? Don't know if you paid much attention to the scan, but Kakashi had lost the cloak before he went to kamuiland.. he actually lost it when Obito touched him.

 

[V h o]

In theory yes, same with Kaguya's dimension also.