Can we please get away from political conversations and crime threads?

[Yubel]

Well I vote. And then I try to help people when I can, including giving charity. Obviously I don't have all the time in the world on my hands due to work, but if I did I would gladly be more active in political activism.

And maybe authoritarian figures wouldn't be in the positions they were if more people came out to vote for someone better. There are statistics about that. The more people don't know about elections, the more chance the rich authoritarian figures get to be elected, because they have the money to get their name out. That's how Jeb Bush won as Governor in Florida. That's how Debbie Wasserman Shultz won the Congressional District seat, even after stepping down as DNC chair because emails leaked showing she help rig an election against Bernie.

And nobody knew who Tim Canova was.

So yeah, voting is important.

Not every politician is an authoritarian figure either. Just look at Bernie Sanders.

So why wasn't Jimmy Carter assassinated then? You know what happens when someone is assassinated? They become a martyr for the cause. Martin Luther King Jr. getting assassinated didn't stop the black movement against segregation. Lincoln getting assassinated didn't end the victory of the Union.

You can't choose not to play when you live in a society and are directly affected by it whether you like it or not. The economy affects your life, the food safety affects your life, the healthcare affects your life, and a thousand other things.

You just don't see it because you choose to believe it doesn't and you remain ignorant and make up excuses to continue that ignorance.

I realize I'm the only one responsible for my life and that nobody owes me anything. If it gets bad I'll move but I've never been affected by any of this bs so I decided it was stupid to invest anymore time to learn something that won't benefit me at all.

I looked around and realized I'm living a good life, that things aren't nearly as bad as painted by these drama queens in the media. I decided I could live my life to the fullest without this ever bothering me again and that's what I did. Now you can do whatever the hell you want, it won't matter to me one way or another but if it wasn't ridiculous enough that you're mostly kids, I thought if I could get these NB'ers to open their eyes about this. It could benefit them like it did for me.

I gave my reasons why you should abandon this kind of discussion but I understand you can't reason a person out of something they were never reasoned into.

I also understand that from objective feedback that this thread won't be effective in accomplishing what I set out to do so I'm going to lead by example and make it stop.

 

[Lightbringer]

I realize I'm the only one responsible for my life and that nobody owes me anything. If it gets bad I'll move but I've never been affected by any of this bs so I decided it was stupid to invest anymore time to learn something that won't benefit me at all.

I looked around and realized I'm living a good life, that things aren't nearly as bad as painted by these drama queens in the media. I decided I could live my life to the fullest without this ever bothering me again and that's what I did. Now you can do whatever the hell you want, it won't matter to me one way or another but if it wasn't ridiculous enough that you're mostly kids, I thought if I could get these NB'ers to open their eyes about this. It could benefit them like it did for me.

I gave my reasons why you should abandon this kind of discussion but I understand you can't reason a person out of something they were never reasoned into.

I also understand that from objective feedback that this thread won't be effective in accomplishing what I set out to do so I'm going to lead by example and make it stop.

And if things get bad, where are you going to move without knowing about that country?

If the economy collapses in the U.S., it affects the global economy.

So the FDA has no affect on your life whatsoever? Do you grow your own food?

Do you not pay your bills for electricity and internet?

Did you never go to the doctor?

Did you not go to school?

Do you not have a job that pays you a salary and do you pay your taxes?


Again, you're not the only person responsible for your own life, and saying that you are is just fiction.....FICTION.

 

[Yubel]

And if things get bad, where are you going to move without knowing about that country?

If the economy collapses in the U.S., it affects the global economy.

So the FDA has no affect on your life whatsoever? Do you grow your own food?

Do you not pay your bills for electricity and internet?

Did you never go to the doctor?

Did you not go to school?

Do you not have a job that pays you a salary and do you pay your taxes?


Again, you're not the only person responsible for your own life, and saying that you are is just fiction.....FICTION.

That's all part of an agreement in a give and take relationship between me and society. If I didn't hold up my end of the deal of contributing to society, I'd be cast out of society. you won't get anything you didn't work for, that's how it works and if you violate that agreement you end up homeless. Just who is responsible for homeless people? No one and they're homeless for their lack of contribution whatever their reason for that is. At the end of the day nobody owes you shit, the only one responsible for your life is you and if you don't accept that fact now, you're going to learn the hard way, by then it might be too late.

 

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I actually can read over three hundred words minutes.

Something like this was merely child's play.

really? just figured u dint give a fuk

 

[Lightbringer]

That's all part of an agreement in a give and take relationship between me and society. If I didn't hold up my end of the deal of contributing to society, I'd be cast out of society. you won't get anything you didn't work for, that's how it works and if you violate that agreement you end up homeless. Just who is responsible for homeless people? No one and they're homeless for their lack of contribution whatever their reason for that is. At the end of the day nobody owes you shit, the only one responsible for your life is you and if you don't accept that fact now, you're going to learn the hard way, by then it might be too late.

So no one is to blame for being homeless except for that one individual?

So the state of the economy has no effect on whether or not people are homeless?

Explain to me what the Depression was again then?

 

[Yubel]

So no one is to blame for being homeless except for that one individual?

So the state of the economy has no effect on whether or not people are homeless?

Explain to me what the Depression was again then?

I'm explaining their situation from an objective perspective. The less valuable you are to society, the less it cares for you. Once the economy slows down businesses have to down-size and people inevitably lose their jobs. I'm not saying it's right but that's reality. Someone valuable to society would never experience that though.

 

[Lightbringer]

I'm explaining their situation from an objective perspective. The less valuable you are to society, the less it cares for you. Once the economy slows down businesses have to down-size and people inevitably lose their jobs. I'm not saying it's right but that's reality. Someone valuable to society would never experience that though.

And are you currently considered a valuable member of society? Do you have some rare business talent or are you mega rich?

 

[Yubel]

And are you currently considered a valuable member of society? Do you have some rare business talent or are you mega rich?

Currently I'm not worth much but I understand this far better than I can say for most people. I'm in the process of building skills that will increase my value.

Value is created through scarcity so the easier you are to replace the more you have to fear.

 

[Lightbringer]

Currently I'm not worth much but I understand this far better than I can say for most people. I'm in the process of building skills that will increase my value.

Value is created through scarcity so the easier you are to replace the more you have to fear.

So then why the **** are you debating me on whether or not other political factors affect your life if that's the case?

It doesn't matter what you're in the process of doing. There are a million things that could happen on the way to halt your efforts and currently you're worthless.

 

[Yubel]

So then why the **** are you debating me on whether or not other political factors affect your life if that's the case?

It doesn't matter what you're in the process of doing. There are a million things that could happen on the way to halt your efforts and currently you're worthless.

Political stuff doesn't matter, no matter what happens it won't translate into any roadblocks in my own life.

 

[Lightbringer]

Political stuff doesn't matter, no matter what happens it won't translate into any roadblocks in my own life.

So you don't eat or drink anything?

You don't pay any bills?

You don't pay any taxes?

You don't live on this world?


Unless you're living in the mountains with your own source of food, water, and electricity. Then there is no way that politics doesn't affect you.

Even if you did what I mentioned, you'd still be affected by it because global warming exists and that affects everyone.



So there is literally no feasible way that you are not affected. So please, stop trying to debate me on this. You might as well be explaining to me why 2+2=5 and not 4.

 

[Yubel]

So you don't eat or drink anything?

You don't pay any bills?

You don't pay any taxes?

You don't live on this world?


Unless you're living in the mountains with your own source of food, water, and electricity. Then there is no way that politics doesn't affect you.

Even if you did what I mentioned, you'd still be affected by it because global warming exists and that affects everyone.



So there is literally no feasible way that you are not affected. So please, stop trying to debate me on this. You might as well be explaining to me why 2+2=5 and not 4.

Almost all the things you mentioned are not political. Anyway, you're naive af it's useless talking to you.

 

[Lightbringer]

Almost all the things you mentioned are not political. Anyway, you're naive af it's useless talking to you.

So FDA regulations and taxes aren't political? Huh.

See, this is what happens when you don't know shit.