[Discussion] Can we deny evolution?

[Edogawa]

Yes it is. Observing fossils' progressions from thousands of years ago to now is no worse than observing multi-million year old lights from distant stars.

I was talking observing which normal people are able perceive - like how we're able to observe gravity, light, cure for diseases and so on by ourselves. You did not observe the fossils yourself, you took the words coming out of the research institution that publishes the data and trusting as fact without also looking at what other opposing research institutions that debunk it.

It's no different from blindly trusting how government allocates tax spending bills on programmes, when you're not able to access accurate data yourself, but you're just trusting the institution for some reason. It's all about trust. Science research facilities receive +$100 billion per year, so there is bound to be corruption, just as any other institutions.

I'm neutral to certain aspects in evolution, since there are opposing sides presenting evidences proving/disproving the theory. Because I don't major in science fields, as you are not and the ones who replied to comment aren't either, I don't have the academic qualifications to talk about it, so I'll just remain neutral.

 

[Lightbringer]

I was talking observing which normal people are able perceive - like how we're able to observe gravity, light, cure for diseases and so on by ourselves. You did not observe the fossils yourself, you took the words coming out of the research institution that publishes the data and trusting as fact without also looking at what other opposing research institutions that debunk it.

It's no different from blindly trusting how government allocates tax spending bills on programmes, when you're not able to access accurate data yourself, but you're just trusting the institution for some reason. It's all about trust. Science research facilities receive +$100 billion per year, so there is bound to be corruption, just as any other institutions.

I'm neutral to certain aspects in evolution, since there are opposing sides presenting evidences proving/disproving the theory. Because I don't major in science fields, as you are not and the ones who replied to comment aren't either, I don't have the academic qualifications to talk about it, so I'll just remain neutral.

There's nothing to gain from lying about evolution. Also, there are aspects of our own biology, such as the Appendix and wisdom teeth, which are proof of evolution.

You can actually see what you're government spends its money on. I'm not sure what you're talking about. They have a federal budget which is laid out with each new year. Beside the point, we put our trust in experts because they are experts. You trust your doctor to give you medical advice, right? You trust your surgeon to operate on you, right? And there are many experts which are unaffiliated with one another if you want a second opinion. In science, that's called peer review. Experts from different unaffiliated organizations test the evidence and theories to see if it holds up.

@Bold: Like what?

 

[Edogawa]

Your typical biased scientists and archeologists that are just wannabes.

I think the wannabes are the ones in this thread talking about evolution, when they don't have the qualifications to speak about it. It's a phenomenon I always find in stupid people, when they think they're sophisticated but fail to present their academic disciplines, like Lightbringer or Punk Hazard. Don't speak about things you're not qualified for.

 

[Yeah right]

I think the wannabes are the ones in this thread talking about evolution, when they don't have the qualifications to speak about it. It's a phenomenon I always find in stupid people, when they think they're sophisticated but fail to present their academic disciplines, like Lightbringer or Punk Hazard. Don't speak about things you're not qualified for.

I went to university. Why you no include me?

 

[Lightbringer]

I think the wannabes are the ones in this thread talking about evolution, when they don't have the qualifications to speak about it. It's a phenomenon I always find in stupid people, when they think they're sophisticated but fail to present their academic disciplines, like Lightbringer or Punk Hazard. Don't speak about things you're not qualified for.

Ok, then why are you on this thread talking about it like you're an expert? You don't even know what evolution is and you argued it's for experts to figure out, but then contradict yourself by rejecting what experts say about evolution.

Evolution is not observable so the comparison is scientifically illegitimate. Evolution is fundamentally a theory in the end, so it has data which support it and data which refute it as well. It's not classified as a fact until it is actually observable.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

I was talking observing which normal people are able perceive - like how we're able to observe gravity, light, cure for diseases and so on by ourselves. You did not observe the fossils yourself, you took the words coming out of the research institution that publishes the data and trusting as fact without also looking at what other opposing research institutions that debunk it.

It's no different from blindly trusting how government allocates tax spending bills on programmes, when you're not able to access accurate data yourself, but you're just trusting the institution for some reason. It's all about trust. Science research facilities receive +$100 billion per year, so there is bound to be corruption, just as any other institutions.

I'm neutral to certain aspects in evolution, since there are opposing sides presenting evidences proving/disproving the theory. Because I don't major in science fields, as you are not and the ones who replied to comment aren't either, I don't have the academic qualifications to talk about it, so I'll just remain neutral.

you were acting as if we could measure the sun for ourselves without getting ridiculously invested not so long ago. evolution is VERY easy to observe man. I seriously don't understand how you can say this as if there's an ulterior motive. like wtf can someone even gain out of this proposal? If evolution weren't real, there wouldn't even be variation in us humans or other animals. the whole implication is that no mutations exist.

 

[Yeah right]

I was talking observing which normal people are able perceive - like how we're able to observe gravity, light, cure for diseases and so on by ourselves. You did not observe the fossils yourself, you took the words coming out of the research institution that publishes the data and trusting as fact without also looking at what other opposing research institutions that debunk it.

It's no different from blindly trusting how government allocates tax spending bills on programmes, when you're not able to access accurate data yourself, but you're just trusting the institution for some reason. It's all about trust. Science research facilities receive +$100 billion per year, so there is bound to be corruption, just as any other institutions.

I'm neutral to certain aspects in evolution, since there are opposing sides presenting evidences proving/disproving the theory. Because I don't major in science fields, as you are not and the ones who replied to comment aren't either, I don't have the academic qualifications to talk about it, so I'll just remain neutral.

Divide that 100 billion to every science department. Then tell me how much evolutionary biology department get.

Geologists, anthropologists, biologists, paleontologist, and other non connected fields all have data to support evolution. What other support do you need?

 

[Edogawa]

There's nothing to gain from lying about evolution. Also, there are aspects of our own biology, such as the Gallbladder and wisdom teeth, which are proof of evolution.

@Bold: Like what?

There is big profit to gain from anything that sells big. Evolution books can be found in schools, colleges, television programmes and other educational institutions; private donations, government spending on science research and network of other researches make revenue. The science research spending in the US is as big as the GDP of Michigan. Corruption comes with lots of money, so do lies.

I think I made myself clear before. You're not qualified to speak about biology. You can talk about it when you bring us your qualifications. Until then, stop talking about it or you'll continue to make yourself stupid.

 

[Lightbringer]

There is big profit to gain from anything that sells big. Evolution books can be found in schools, colleges, television programmes and other educational institutions; private donations, government spending on science research and network of other researches make revenue. The science research spending in the US is as big as the GDP of Michigan. Corruption comes with lots of money, so do lies.

I think I made myself clear before. You're not qualified to speak about biology. You can talk about it when you bring us your qualifications. Until then, stop talking about it or you'll continue to make yourself stupid.

Actually I can, because scientist share their findings and studies to the public. All I'm doing is relaying what the experts say. You're the one that's making the opinionated remarks about evolution. And the science community has this to say.

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The evidence for evolution

"Darwin and other 19th-century biologists found compelling evidence for biological evolution in the comparative study of living organisms, in their geographic distribution, and in the fossil remains of extinct organisms. Since Darwin’s time, the evidence from these sources has become considerably stronger and more comprehensive, while biological disciplines that emerged more recently—genetics, biochemistry, physiology, ecology, animal behaviour (ethology), and especially molecular biology—have supplied powerful additional evidence and detailed confirmation. The amount of information about evolutionary history stored in the DNA and proteins of living things is virtually unlimited; scientists can reconstruct any detail of the evolutionary history of life by investing sufficient time and laboratory resources.

Evolutionists no longer are concerned with obtaining evidence to support the fact of evolution but rather are concerned with what sorts of knowledge can be obtained from different sources of evidence. The following sections identify the most productive of these sources and illustrate the types of information they have provided."

 

[Edogawa]

Divide that 100 billion to every science department. Then tell me how much evolutionary biology department get.

Geologists, anthropologists, biologists, paleontologist, and other non connected fields all have data to support evolution. What other support do you need?

It's actually not $100 billion but $473 billion for the US alone. The science departments don't receive equal amount of money either, as the physics and related departments don't receive the same amount of money as biology and related departments. Biology-related and chemistry-related departments will receive the biggest amount, since they work closely with healthcare department as a lot of their work are tied together in how they try to find new cures for medicines.

Just as there are data published by academics who debunk evolution in the science community, you should also publish them and not be bias. You'll find plenty of YouTube videos of biologists who debunk evolution, but they are not heard as they're not part of the mainstream community belief. The science community is just as corrupt as religious, financial, political intuitions.

 

[Lightbringer]

It's actually not $100 billion but $473 billion for the US alone. The science departments don't receive equal amount of money either, as the physics and related departments don't receive the same amount of money as biology and related departments. Biology-related and chemistry-related departments will receive the biggest amount, since they work closely with healthcare department as a lot of their work are tied together in how they try to find new cures for medicines.

Just as there are data published by academics who debunk evolution in the science community, you should also publish them and not be bias. You'll find plenty of YouTube videos of biologists who debunk evolution, but they are not heard as they're not part of the mainstream community. The science community is just as corrupt as religious, financial, political intuitions.

Lmao. Well this explains everything.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

Lmao. Well this explains everything.

it was no more than 4 posts ago that we weren't supposed to trust the shadowy experts.

 

[Yeah right]

It's actually not $100 billion but $473 billion for the US alone. The science departments don't receive equal amount of money either, as the physics and related departments don't receive the same amount of money as biology and related departments. Biology-related and chemistry-related departments will receive the biggest amount, since they work closely with healthcare department as a lot of their work are tied together in how they try to find new cures for medicines.

Just as there are data published by academics who debunk evolution in the science community, you should also publish them and not be bias. You'll find plenty of YouTube videos of biologists who debunk evolution, but they are not heard as they're not part of the mainstream community belief. The science community is just as corrupt as religious, financial, political intuitions.

Please, for the love of science, share a YouTube video about debunking evolution.

Never mind, I found a GREAT one.
[video=youtube_share;3Zsry4xGwzE]https://youtu.be/3Zsry4xGwzE[/video]

 

[Punk Hazard]

I think the wannabes are the ones in this thread talking about evolution, when they don't have the qualifications to speak about it. It's a phenomenon I always find in stupid people, when they think they're sophisticated but fail to present their academic disciplines, like Lightbringer or Punk Hazard. Don't speak about things you're not qualified for.

I like how you say this despite definitively saying evolution isn't real because YouTube told you so. Evolution has been demonstrated several times over.

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talks about another study involving lizards that displayed evolution, and cited two other studies that showed rapid evolution in two other species of animals. The fact that human beings were once highly susceptible to diseases that no longer pose as big a threat, our very immune systems, is evidence of evolution.

 

[Lightbringer]

I like how you say this despite definitively saying evolution isn't real because YouTube told you so. Evolution has been demonstrated several times over.

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talks about another study involving lizards that displayed evolution, and cited two other studies that showed rapid evolution in two other species of animals. The fact that human beings were once highly susceptible to diseases that no longer pose as big a threat, our very immune systems, is evidence of evolution.

I even mentioned this before in a previous comment he chose to ignore, but even our Appendix and Wisdom Teeth are examples of evolution within the human species.

Because of our change in diet from raw foods, the Appendix is no longer a functionally necessary organ and our jaws don't develop fully which leads to wisdom teeth being impacted.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

I think the wannabes are the ones in this thread talking about evolution, when they don't have the qualifications to speak about it. It's a phenomenon I always find in stupid people, when they think they're sophisticated but fail to present their academic disciplines, like Lightbringer or Punk Hazard. Don't speak about things you're not qualified for.

God, you're prejudice. And you cannot think for yourself, and you assume something is accurate just because a scientist said so. That's sort of a slave mentality.

Sorry, I'm not miseducated like you, lightbringer, or punk.I don't waste massive amounts of my time reading from some self-entitled geniuses unfair selective studies. I'm pretty much fully capable of thinking for myself, and figuring things out for myself, unless I need to use information from a VALID source, for the right purpose, while not taking CREDIT for it. I use information from outer sources for it's true purpose, not to make myself look smart, when it wasn't even my own discovery. That's exactly what makes you guys a "wannabe". You think it makes you look superior to the next person, but really, you look spoon fed.You repeat information you were spoon fed to get a "climb" in a debate. It's stupid, cause all of you have lost.

So, edogawa, if you wanna go there, we can. Nothing of which you speak, is anything brand new.It's boring, it's already been stated.You're played out.

You're arguing about something that's inconclusive, cause it's all just speculations. The theory of evolution has no proper foundation...lmao.Biased studies.You may go against it, not cause you're assured that evolution is false, it's just because you're just another know-it-all, that really knows nothing...like all the others on this thread.You have as much nothing, as the evolution wankers do.So let that sink in...

A bunch of biased people full of propaganda. Reading your posts is like reading a bunch of banter. And it's a shame that people like you are in office too, convincing everyone that you're legit, when you aren't. All you people have is bits and pieces of information made to make your arguments look good. It's a total facade.

Take you and your white supremacist ideals, and throw it right in the garbage.

In short,

you're not qualified, you're just self-entitled...like the rest of the self-entitlement gang. So pompous about everything. Pure self-imagination on your part.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

You've got me convinced. And apes of all things? It's all just a ploy to liken us dark brothers to apes on color itself and color alone.
Nothing but a cheap shot to hack at others social standing because they can't raise their own.


You mean kissing down. theyre beneath us man

It's funny, because they're the ones that wanna be apes/monkeys...lmao.

Comparing humans with apes, then exaggerating about their similarities. Humans do that, a lot.

It isn't the same, but painted to be similar.

 

[Lightbringer]

Sorry, I'm not miseducated like you, lightbringer, or punk.I don't waste massive amounts of my time reading from some self-entitled geniuses unfair selective studies. I'm pretty much fully capable of thinking for myself, and figuring things out for myself, unless I need to use information from a VALID source, for the right purpose, while not taking CREDIT for it. I use information from outer sources for it's true purpose, not to make myself look smart, when it wasn't even my own discovery.

So you did biological and archaeological research, tests, and studies yourself and debunked evolution?

 

[Uverdore9]

Monkeys could have turned into humans.

 

[Dreckerplayer]

Monkeys could have turned into humans.

That's a part of the theory of evolution.

But I believe it's an assumption.Sort of arrogant, to be honest, as I've mention many times before.

And if they did, how did they look?Conveniently white?Conveniently oriental?Come on, now.