Can we all agree Naruto and Sasuke are even

[saw2097]

My point is Sasuke can absorb from a distance or up close. Naruto can't attack with chakra unless he's taking a chance on his Jutsu being absorbed.

While what you say makes sense, both Madara and Kaguya could also absorb chakra so that does have its limits.

 

[DHOH]

Why would it bother me, they are drawings on a piece of paper? I am just pointing at that Naruto is stronger than Sasuke in the long run, if you can present a perfect logical argument otherwise I will happily change my opinion.

If Sasuke can drain chakra from a distance why didn't he do that against Naruto? He placed the Bijuu chakra inside his Susanoo after moving the TB right next to it, that isn't draining from a distance
How does ending in a tie mean equal when one used a power up they can only use once?

That just means they were equal for that fight, afterwards is a different matter.

Naruto never attack he only countered.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Now all of those picking naruto as stronger, exusing themselves by sasuke having bijuus anser me this...

What would happen to naruto is sasuke used outer path? You know it binds bijuu power dont you?

 

[Stxluciferr]

Well s/t plus sharp spear instead of chidori and it's over

 

[saw2097]

Now all of those picking naruto as stronger, exusing themselves by sasuke having bijuus anser me this...

What would happen to naruto is sasuke used outer path? You know it binds bijuu power dont you?

That would revive the Ten Tails and put Sasuke in danger of being taken over by Kaguya.

He would have to be an idiot to summon the Gedo Mazo, as that would release BZ.

Naruto never es attack he only countered.

Which he will just do again if they fight again, it worked pretty well this time, until Sasuke absorbed the Bijuu.

 

[DHOH]

While what you say makes sense, both Madara and Kaguya could also absorb chakra so that does have its limits.

Putting limits on the jutsu is pure speculation... That's why we will never really know how a fight between these two would end.

 

[AlphaScythian]

That would revive the Ten Tails and put Sasuke in danger of being taken over by Kaguya.

He would have to be an idiot to summon the Gedo Mazo, as that would release BZ.



Which he will just do again if they fight again, it worked pretty well this time, until Sasuke absorbed the Bijuu.

What is this nonsense? Outer path is rinnegan ability, its just can be used via gedo and magnified by it.
Obito used it w/o gedo.

 

[CrimsonReaper]

They came out even in this fight.Sasuke without bijuus<naruto though

 

[saw2097]

What is this nonsense? Outer path is rinnegan ability, its just can be used via gedo and magnified by it.

Obito used it w/o bijuu.

The Outer Path abilities were Chibaku Tensei, Rinne Rebirth, and the summon for the Gedo Mazo.

 

[LeSauce]

Why would it bother me, they are drawings on a piece of paper? I am just pointing at that Naruto is stronger than Sasuke in the long run, if you can present a perfect logical argument otherwise I will happily change my opinion.

If Sasuke can drain chakra from a distance why didn't he do that against Naruto? He placed the Bijuu chakra inside his Susanoo after moving the TB right next to it, that isn't draining from a distance.

How does ending in a tie mean equal when one used a power up they can only use once?

That just means they were equal for that fight, afterwards is a different matter.

Your argument is that because he used the Bijuus, he isn't as strong, but he used them to do one technique alone to try and end the fight quickly. Other than that how did it help him?

He can easily take the chakra he needs from Naruto as we already saw. Neither of them can use their most powerful jutsu then, can they? Then using the bijuus doesn't matter anymore.

What are you talking about? The bijuus chakra was literally flowing through the air when he did it. It made PS look small. Yeah, why didn't he use it?
Doesn't matter anyway when we saw how fast Nagato could do it, mow imagine how fast Sasuke could do it if when he's inexperienced he can already use techs better than Nagato.

Naruto has Kurama helping him on his side, should I say that it's him+Kurama fighting Sasuke? It sure looked like it.

Sasuke and Naruto are equal, get over it.

 

[AlphaScythian]

The Outer Path abilities were Chibaku Tensei, Rinne Rebirth, and the summon for the Gedo Mazo.

CT is deva path. :|

Gedo summoning is part of outer powers as well as rinne rebirth, but chakra chains can be used w/o gedo nor do other outer path abilities depend on it..

How about next time you type something you also give a scan to back up as it appears you havent been reading manga.

 

[saw2097]

Your argument is that because he used the Bijuus, he isn't as strong, but he used them to do one technique alone to try and end the fight quickly. Other than that how did it help him?

He can easily take the chakra he needs from Naruto as we already saw. Neither of them can use their most powerful jutsu then, can they? Then using the bijuus doesn't matter anymore.

What are you talking about? The bijuus chakra was literally flowing through the air when he did it. It made PS look small. Yeah, why didn't he use it?
Doesn't matter anyway when we saw how fast Nagato could do it, mow imagine how fast Sasuke could do it if when he's inexperienced he can already use techs better than Nagato.

Naruto has Kurama helping him on his side, should I say that it's him+Kurama fighting Sasuke? It sure looked like it.

To do one technique? He spent an entire chapter using that one technique.

Naruto can still use his strongest jutsu in further fights, all he has to do is gather chakra up Natural chakra again. The reason Sasuke can't is because the Bijuu go free after this fight.

And if Sasuke can "easily" steal Naruto's chakra why did he have to get up close to do it, he was making physical contact?

And seriously are you resorting to using the "help" argument?

Don't get emotional over a work of fiction.

CT is deva path. :|

Gedo summoning is part of outer powers as well as rinne rebirth, but chakra chains can be used w/o gedo nor do other outer path abilities depend on it..

How about next time you type something you also give a scan to back up as it appears you havent been reading manga.

Where were chakra chains (except for Uzuamki) get used without the Gedo Mazo.

The TB were linked to the Gedo Mazo when Obito used them in that fight.

 

[LeSauce]

To do one technique? He spent an entire chapter using that one technique.

Naruto can still use his strongest jutsu in further fights, all he has to do is gather chakra up Natural chakra again. The reason Sasuke can't is because the Bijuu go free after this fight.

And if Sasuke can "easily" steal Naruto's chakra why did he have to get up close to do it, he was making physical contact?

And seriously are you resorting to using the "help" argument?

Don't get emotional over a work of fiction.

Who's emotional?

Doesn't matter how long it took when it was only 1 technique he used. Other than that they just fought, but we already saw that Sasuke and Naruto could fight on par.

Right, because Kurama just kept gaining Nature energy after Naruto used it.

Maybe because he didn't need it? He had the bijuus right by his side didn't he?

When he needed it he took it.

It's the same as you resorting to he had the bijuus is all i'm saying.

 

[saw2097]

Who's emotional?

Doesn't matter how long it took when it was only 1 technique he used. Other than that they just fought, but we already saw that Sasuke and Naruto could fight on par.

Right, because Kurama just kept gaining Nature energy after Naruto used it.

Maybe because he didn't need it? He had the bijuus right by his side didn't he?

When he needed it he took it.

It's the same as you resorting to he had the bijuus is all i'm saying.

Clearly I need to re-clarify my argument, the issue isn't how one gets the power, its the ability to reuse it.

Also you are getting emotional, you resorted to personal attacks in two of your previous posts, chill out its just a manga.

And you also proved my point, he moved the TB near his Susanoo before draining into it, and when he fought Naruto on the ground he had to make physical contact before being able to drain the chakra.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Where were chakra chains (except for Uzuamki) get used without the Gedo Mazo.

The TB were linked to the Gedo Mazo when Obito used them in that fight.

I see you retconned your statement huh?

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[saw2097]

I see you retconned your statement huh?

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I was wrong about the Chibaku Tensei.

But the chains were the Gedo Mazo's chains, Four Tails mentioned that the chains were still attached to them Obito just used a rod to hook them to a host.

That's why once Naruto removed the rods they were dragged right back into the Gedo Mazo.

 

[LeSauce]

Clearly I need to re-clarify my argument, the issue isn't how one gets the power, its the ability to reuse it.

Also you are getting emotional, you resorted to personal attacks in two of your previous posts, chill out its just a manga.

And you also proved my point, he moved the TB near his Susanoo before draining into it, and when he fought Naruto on the ground he had to make physical contact before being able to drain the chakra.

The butthurt thing wasn't a personnel attack, I just actually thought you were bothered by it.

The point is that he never touched the bijuu, he was still at least a mile away considering how big PS is. Sure he might have to get close, but it still doesn't mean he didn't do it from a distance. Even if he had to touch the avater, it wouldn't be that hard since the fight with fists.

It's not that the argument is similar, it's that you're using an excuse to make Naruto look better when at the end of the day they'll always be equal.

 

[AlphaScythian]

I was wrong about the Chibaku Tensei.

But the chains were the Gedo Mazo's chains, Four Tails mentioned that the chains were still attached to them Obito just used a rod to hook them to a host.

That's why once Naruto removed the rods they were dragged right back into the Gedo Mazo.

No chains are user's anyhow, users may use gedo to amplify it, its not gedo's ability but users.
Four tails was already sealed it different

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Here bee is owned by outer chains too and no connections to gedo.

 

[saw2097]

The butthurt thing wasn't a personnel attack, I just actually thought you were bothered by it.

The point is that he never touched the bijuu, he was still at least a mile away considering how big PS is. Sure he might have to get close, but it still doesn't mean he didn't do it from a distance. Even if he had to touch the avater, it wouldn't be that hard since the fight with fists.

It's not that the argument is similar, it's that you're using an excuse to make Naruto look better when at the end of the day they'll always be equal.

I am not really using it as an excuse that's just how I see it.

You are still resorting to personal attacks, does it upset you that people don't always agree with you, get used to it that's how the world works.

Sasuke was drawing from the TB which were under a genjutsu and trapped in rock orbs, if he could do it against Naruto than why didn't he?

No chains are user's anyhow, users may use gedo to amplify it, its not gedo's ability but users.
Four tails was already sealed it different

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Okay plausible, but if Obito couldn't stop Naruto with it why would Sasuke be more successful using the same tactic?

Even Madara had to summon the Gedo Mazo to bind the beasts when fighting Naruto, and Naruto was much weaker than.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Okay plausible, but if Obito couldn't stop Naruto with it why would Sasuke be more successful using the same tactic?

Even Madara had to summon the Gedo Mazo to bind the beasts when fighting Naruto, and Naruto was much weaker than.

Sasuke is rinnegan original user, has sages chakra Obito didnt.

Madara binded all 9 at once and gedo was needed to seal them anyway.