Can someone please explain Nagato>itachi

[Makoto Uchiha]

i have heard people say that nagato could kill itachi with no problems. firstly...if it weren't for itachi than naruto and killerbee would have really struggled against Nagato. whereas itachi figured out nagato techniques weakness easily.

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If itachi were to fight Nagato 1 one 1 all it takes is to use to totsuka sword on nagato. also how will nagato counter against amaterasu he can't absorb it so how can do anything about it.

comment and rate. just think about this fight before u postxd

 

[jordan1]

Itachi was the one who made them win but it was because of teamwork

 

[Braveknight]

i want to ask you..while your reading..how can you hear it?

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Celestial tera blast
gedo mazo
3rd sage of 6 paths
controlled by kabuto crippled
konoha crater
Mastery of all elements all this should give you a idea
3rd sage of 6 paths> skilled ms user

 

[Naruto33]

it depends on the person's health... if nagato could use his legs... he would be more useful on the battlefield... what i don't understand is how his legs don't work even when he is in IWR :|

 

[Ryuu..]

i have heard people say that nagato could kill itachi with no problems. firstly...if it weren't for itachi than naruto and killerbee would have really struggled against Nagato. whereas itachi figured out nagato techniques weakness easily.

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If itachi were to fight Nagato 1 one 1 all it takes is to use to totsuka sword on nagato. also how will nagato counter against amaterasu he can't absorb it so how can do anything about it.

comment and rate. just think about this fight before u postxd

Thanks for pointing out how Itachi only one that due to Plot-No-Jutsu.

 

[silmarill]

nagato let himself be amaterasu'd , thought that was pretty obvious...

 

[-S-]

here we go again

 

[Borderliner]

Really don't know. Clash of the Titans!!

 

[NLee]

Nagato has all 5 (6) elements

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-If Itachi uses Fire, Nagato can counter with Water
-If Itachi uses Water, Nagato can counter with Earth
-If Itachi uses Earth, Nagato can counter with Lightning
-If Itachi uses Lightning, Nagato can counter with Wind
-If Itachi uses Wind, Nagato can counter with
(Itachi doesn't have Earth, Lightning, or Wind. My point is Nagato can counter them all)

In terms of ninjutsu, Nagato can deal with any elemental technique that comes his way.
If that weren't enough he can absorb the oncoming technique outright with his Preta Path ability, or blow it away with his Deva Path ability

Ninjutsu doesn't work​

Nagato can summon several summons simultaneously
We've seen him summon giant crabs, birds, dogs that multiply upon impact, bulls, etc. He did these all at the same time. Are they stronger than Itachi's Susanno? Perhaps not. But even against something like Susanno they would be able to deal with it long enough for Nagato to prepare his Chibaku Tensei.

A 9 tailed Kyuubi couldn't even break out of Nagato's Chibaku Tensei. I don't see how a Susanno can resist something that the Kyuubi couldn't break out using brute force


Nagato can suck the souls out of anyone he touches
Nagato has the powers of the Human Path which means he can rip the souls out of anyone he touches. How would you physically attack someone who can rip your soul out upon contact?

Even if Nagato chooses not to use the Human Path's powers he still has the powers of Deva and Asura Path to deal with any form of close ranged technique.

Taijutsu doesn't work​

The biggest problem is genjutsu but you can't catch someone in a genjutsu if they're concealed in an invisible chameleon.



The Nagato that fought against Naruto and Bee doesn't remotely represent the sum of Nagato's powers. People need to stop taking that battle to heart. Not only did he not want to kill them at first, but even after being taken over by Kabuto he didn't even do half the things we know he can do.

Ya, Itachi got Nagato with his Sword of Totsuka while he was being distracted by Bee and Naruto. I guess that automatically means Itachi's stronger than Nagato, right? *rolls eyes*

 

[Memoria]

Pretty much everything NLee said, although Itachi wasn't shown using other elemental techniques apart from Fire and Water techniques.

And to add some points, I think the difference between their chakra/stamina level is clear, everyone knows which of them has the powerful chakra and life force advantage, add to that the Uzumaki's healing ability.

"Nagato: When faced with overwhelming power, all is meaningless."

 

[Cpt Long Schlong]

Nagato has all 5 (6) elements

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-If Itachi uses Fire, Nagato can counter with Water
-If Itachi uses Water, Nagato can counter with Earth
-If Itachi uses Earth, Nagato can counter with Lightning
-If Itachi uses Lightning, Nagato can counter with Wind
-If Itachi uses Wind, Nagato can counter with

In terms of ninjutsu, Nagato can deal with any elemental technique that comes his way.
If that weren't enough he can absorb the oncoming technique outright with his Preta Path ability, or blow it away with his Deva Path ability

Ninjutsu doesn't work​

Nagato can summon several summons simultaneously
We've seen him summon giant crabs, birds, dogs that multiply upon impact, bulls, etc. He did these all at the same time. Are they stronger than Itachi's Susanno? Perhaps not. But even against something like Susanno they would be able to deal with it long enough for Nagato to prepare his Chibaku Tensei.

A 9 tailed Kyuubi couldn't even break out of Nagato's Chibaku Tensei. I don't see how a Susanno can resist something that the Kyuubi couldn't break out using brute force


Nagato can suck the souls out of anyone he touches
Nagato has the powers of the Human Path which means he can rip the souls out of anyone he touches. How would you physically attack someone who can rip your soul out upon contact?

Even if Nagato chooses not to use the Human Path's powers he still has the powers of Deva and Asura Path to deal with any form of close ranged technique.

Taijutsu doesn't work​

The biggest problem is genjutsu but you can't catch someone in a genjutsu if they're concealed in an invisible chameleon.



The Nagato that fought against Naruto and Bee doesn't remotely represent the sum of Nagato's powers. People need to stop taking that battle to heart. Not only did he not want to kill them at first, but even after being taken over by Kabuto he didn't even do half the things we know he can do.

Ya, Itachi got Nagato with his Sword of Totsuka while he was being distracted by Bee and Naruto. I guess that automatically means Itachi's stronger than Nagato, right? *rolls eyes*

I agree with you on almost all, except can't Sharingan see chakra as colours, so would still see the "invisible" chameleon, but we also know Rinnegan is the superior doujutsu, so it is questionable to whether or not genjutsu (visual) would even work. Most people think not.
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[FloriGlori]

Thanks for pointing out how Itachi only one that due to Plot-No-Jutsu.

The weakest kind of an argument possible.

 

[Beastbomb]

There is just too many ways in which Nagato could defeat Itachi any jutsu's are meaningless when he can absorb all of them with preta path, you can't get close with taijutsu because he will either counter with shinra tensei or the human path. I doubt very much weather MS can put the rinnegan user under a genjutsu and with all elements mastered Nagato just has a counter to almost anything that Itachi could throw at him. Also if you take chakra level's into account then Nagato wins this area as well I like Itachi so don't get me wrong, but he isn't beating Nagato anytime soon there is a reason why most threads on this topic state that Nagato>Itachi and thats because he is.

 

[Ryuu..]

The weakest kind of an argument possible.

If Nagato won, Naruto would've died. You work out what had to happen.

 

[6PathsofKami]

Nagato only got sealed by itachi because kabuto wanted to capture B and naruto, he wasnt focusing on itachi. One on one nagatos full focus will be on itachi and im sure amaterasu can be absorped by preta path, he also has tendo pains ability to deflect any ninjutsu.

 

[FloriGlori]

If Nagato won, Naruto would've died. You work out what had to happen.

Which doesn't in any way mean that anything of that fight happened due to plot reasons.

 

[NLee]

Which doesn't in any way mean that anything of that fight happened due to plot reasons.

Yes it does. Nagato is stronger than either Naruto, Bee, or Itachi. Yet, Nagato had to be dealt with because Naruto had to fight Tobi and Itachi had to fight Kabuto. Nagato lost to opponents weaker than him because, storywise, it just had to happen. How else would you explain Nagato's defeat?

Itachi sealing him doesn't mean Itachi was stronger than him. It was the only plausible way for them to seal Nagato so Kishi ran with it. There were no other sealing techniques available to them in the heat of the moment. Nagato got sealed and defeated because...he just had to. That's what a plot reason is - it just had to happen

 

[FloriGlori]

Yes it does. Nagato is stronger than either Naruto, Bee, or Itachi. Yet, Nagato had to be dealt with because Naruto had to fight Tobi and Itachi had to fight Kabuto. Nagato lost to opponents weaker than him because, storywise, it just had to happen. How else would you explain Nagato's defeat?

Itachi sealing him doesn't mean Itachi was stronger than him. It was the only plausible way for them to seal Nagato so Kishi ran with it. There were no other sealing techniques available to them in the heat of the moment. Nagato got sealed and defeated because...he just had to. That's what a plot reason is - it just had to happen

Dear, you don't have to explain the term. I'm fully aware of it.

How I would explain his defeat? He was outnumbered, outsmarted and faced three enemies he couldn't even dream of defeating at the same time. Yet that doesn't automatically mean that they (mostly Itachi, since it's obvious that Naruto and Bee were inferior to him) are weaker than him on their own. Just like Itachi sealing Nagato doesn't automatically mean that he is stronger than him. You basicly said it yourself.


Nagato had to die, indeed, but that he had to doesn't mean that he wouldn't have otherwise.
Saying that it just happened for the plot is like making excuses.

 

[Narubro]

nagato>itachi

just accept it

it took naruto, bee, and itachi to seal him


sounds like a boss to me