Can someone explain how hashirama is supposed to be the strongest.

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i don't think kishi would try to downgrade one hokage to give more respect to the other hokage

so he just says that every hokage is very powerful

Minato has also been said to have unparalleled strength

Just like the sasuke page i posted kishi will not say this ninja is so powerful but less powerful than that ninja, he will leave out the being less powerful than that ninja part >.<

_O- so many people proved that wrong. Tsunade can rape Sasuke lololol.

i dont think you understood the point of posting that :|
 

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hiruzen was said to be the strongest but that could mean only strength alone and not jutsu, if you involve jutsu to then hashi will just over power hiruzen
 
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When hiruzen fought orochimaru why didnt orochimaru make tobirama use his space time jutsu
 
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Ok a lot of people on this website seem to think hashirama is the strongest ninja ever. But in the beginning of the naruto series it says hiruzen sarutobi was the strongest kage the leaf village ever had. Then kishi made it so hiruzen fights not only hashirama but his brother n orochimaru also. From what I seen in that fight he didn't even look stronger than n old hiruzen. Now I know a lot of you will say that wasn't hashirama at his best cuz he was being control by orochimaru but it has been stated already that orochimaru edo was perfected. Finally in the naruto databook( which is also written by kishimoto) says hiruzen was the strongest hokage n hashirama was the strongest of his era. Now with that being said can a hashirama fanboy please explain why kishi would say hiruzen was the strongest n have him beat his former teachers if one of them was suppose to be stronger?

if he even used woodstlye against hiruzen, take that would style, and comepare it with what containted the 9 tails or had to beat the perfect susano'o, hashi anyday.
 

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hiruzen was said to be the strongest but that could mean only strength alone and not jutsu, if you involve jutsu to then hashi will just over power hiruzen

You see how people try to make things up so it can be how they seem fit. If u really believe they didn't include jutsu when talkin about the guy that knows all the jutsu in the village ur an idiot.
 

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if he even used woodstlye against hiruzen, take that would style, and comepare it with what containted the 9 tails or had to beat the perfect susano'o, hashi anyday.

Wth are u talking about.
 
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OH, i also remembered, 9 tails attacks leaf, Hiruzen can't do shit. Hashirama vs Madara, Hashirama restrains the 9 tails basically with ease.
 

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madara is the strongest ninja ever however, hashirama can beat him, so thats why he is the strongest in a sense, because he can beat the strongest ninja.

the 4th raikage imo can beat hashirama but he can't beat madara, so it really doesn't matter
 

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OH, i also remembered, 9 tails attacks leaf, Hiruzen can't do shit. Hashirama vs Madara, Hashirama restrains the 9 tails basically with ease.

Cool if I remember correct hiruzen beat hashirama tobirama n orochimaru Duh.
 

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madara is the strongest ninja ever however, hashirama can beat him, so thats why he is the strongest in a sense, because he can beat the strongest ninja.

the 4th raikage imo can beat hashirama but he can't beat madara, so it really doesn't matter

If hashirama can beat madara then madara isn't the strongest ninja ever.
 

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hype is overrated.Hashirama wins IMO
 

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if people have a problem with hashirama being the strongest, take it up with kishi.
 

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It's a thing where, people begin to make up false information.
 

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Ignoring all the idiotic replies to this thread, I will simply answer the topic.

Hashirama is not the strongest.

Until he makes a real appearance and proves otherwise, he's just a kage-level shinobi that people like to talk about. Don't take what characters say at face-value, always assume they are as bias as the people on these forums are.
 
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if people have a problem with hashirama being the strongest, take it up with kishi.

Actually kishi said hiruzen is the strongest. It has never even been hinted that hashirama was the strongest except by madara.
 

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Actually kishi said hiruzen is the strongest. It has never even been hinted that hashirama was the strongest except by madara.
hashirama>hiruzen

hiruzens hype-lets start out with hiruzens hype. he was stated to be the strongest kage, the professor, and mastered all of konohas jutsu at one point.

hashiramas hype- now for hashiramas hype. hashiramas strength was stated to be a myth, a fairy tail like the sage of six paths. he was also called the strongest shinobi. it was also stated that hashiramas might was so vast that no shinobi from the current era could stand up to his power. that means that hashirama>every other shinobi except edo madara.

explaining the hype-we will get back to hashiramas hype. hiruzen was stated to be the strongest kage. nobody at the time from when hiruzen was getting all his fame(which was his prime) knew about or believed in hashiramas strength. hashiramas strength was considered a myth.

now lets define myth:
a traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, especially one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature.

so the people that tried to tell the future generations about hashiramas strength were dismissed because nobody thought a shinobi could be so strong. this is supported by the manga because hashiramas strength was considered a myth, a fairy tail like rikudo sennin. does everyone believe in the sage. nope.

Feats- now lets get to their feats. hiruzen is severely outclassed in this department. hashirama defeated ems madara with the kyuubi. ems madara by himself is one of the strongest characters in the narutoverse. combine this with the fact that he had the kyuubi by his side which is the strongest tailed beast, then you can see why hashiramas strength was considered a myth. hiruzen had to pull out reaper death seal on a nerfed edo hashirama and edo tobirama who were stated by orochimaru to be toying with hiruzen. while hiruzen very well may be much stronger in his prime, his hype and feats put him nowhere near hashiramas level.

databooks- databooks have been wrong on multiple occasions like saying orochimaru invented edo tensei and saying naruto and sakura were equals. the info in these can be faulty and it is outdated. how long has it been since kishi has released a databook? not recently.

conclusion- people from the future generations that heard of hashiramas strength considered his strength a myth. people believed that hiuzen was the strongest didnt believe in hashiramas strength. they reasoned that hiruzen was the strongest because that was what they saw and hiruzen>hashirama is what seemed reasonable to them because hashiramas strength seemed to exaggerated.

hashirama>hiruzen
 

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hashirama>hiruzen

hiruzens hype-lets start out with hiruzens hype. he was stated to be the strongest kage, the professor, and mastered all of konohas jutsu at one point.

hashiramas hype- now for hashiramas hype. hashiramas strength was stated to be a myth, a fairy tail like the sage of six paths. he was also called the strongest shinobi. it was also stated that hashiramas might was so vast that no shinobi from the current era could stand up to his power. that means that hashirama>every other shinobi except edo madara.

explaining the hype-we will get back to hashiramas hype. hiruzen was stated to be the strongest kage. nobody at the time from when hiruzen was getting all his fame(which was his prime) knew about or believed in hashiramas strength. hashiramas strength was considered a myth.

now lets define myth:
a traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, especially one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature.

so the people that tried to tell the future generations about hashiramas strength were dismissed because nobody thought a shinobi could be so strong. this is supported by the manga because hashiramas strength was considered a myth, a fairy tail like rikudo sennin. does everyone believe in the sage. nope.

Feats- now lets get to their feats. hiruzen is severely outclassed in this department. hashirama defeated ems madara with the kyuubi. ems madara by himself is one of the strongest characters in the narutoverse. combine this with the fact that he had the kyuubi by his side which is the strongest tailed beast, then you can see why hashiramas strength was considered a myth. hiruzen had to pull out reaper death seal on a nerfed edo hashirama and edo tobirama who were stated by orochimaru to be toying with hiruzen. while hiruzen very well may be much stronger in his prime, his hype and feats put him nowhere near hashiramas level.

databooks- databooks have been wrong on multiple occasions like saying orochimaru invented edo tensei and saying naruto and sakura were equals. the info in these can be faulty and it is outdated. how long has it been since kishi has released a databook? not recently.

conclusion- people from the future generations that heard of hashiramas strength considered his strength a myth. people believed that hiuzen was the strongest didnt believe in hashiramas strength. they reasoned that hiruzen was the strongest because that was what they saw and hiruzen>hashirama is what seemed reasonable to them because hashiramas strength seemed to exaggerated.

hashirama>hiruzen

I stop reading when you said hashirama was the strongest shinobi.
 
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