Can someone explain how hashirama is supposed to be the strongest.

[sage22]

Ok a lot of people on this website seem to think hashirama is the strongest ninja ever. But in the beginning of the naruto series it says hiruzen sarutobi was the strongest kage the leaf village ever had. Then kishi made it so hiruzen fights not only hashirama but his brother n orochimaru also. From what I seen in that fight he didn't even look stronger than n old hiruzen. Now I know a lot of you will say that wasn't hashirama at his best cuz he was being control by orochimaru but it has been stated already that orochimaru edo was perfected. Finally in the naruto databook( which is also written by kishimoto) says hiruzen was the strongest hokage n hashirama was the strongest of his era. Now with that being said can a hashirama fanboy please explain why kishi would say hiruzen was the strongest n have him beat his former teachers if one of them was suppose to be stronger?

 

[~MC117~]

Hiruzen>hashirama.

 

[-Logic-]

I'm not gonna waste my breath explaining it to you. Sorry.

 

[Hokage Swag]

F&ck Hashirama one of themost overrated ninjas with Itachi, Nagato, Minato

 

[naruto1246]

im not a fanboy but i dont think oros edo was perfected at that time and i think what makes him great was the fact that he could controll tailed beast

 

[Lamperouge]

Hashirama>Hiruzen.

 

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[Negative Knight]

shut that shit, i said shut it

You see these ridges on my shoe, if you don't shut up these ridges will be on your ass

 

[HiddenSound]

Regeneration, Flower World, Mokuton, beating EMS Madara, and Wood Clones! Wood Clones everywhere!!
Oh, and Tailed Beast control some how.

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

I think. . . . . . . . . Hiruzen was SAID to be the strongest. . . . . . . . . but I think Hashirama WAS the strongest! :noc:

 

[Hipster Madara]

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No. Things change.

 

[lol99]

hashirama > hiruzen

explaination over

 

[TouchMyMangos]

What people need to realise about that fight is, it wasn't meant to prove that Hiruzen could defeat Hashirama and Tobirama at the same time. It was merely to show that Hiruzen had surpassed his predacesors. In any case, there's nothing to suggest that Kishimoto has retconned what he said about Hiruzen, none whatsoever.

Alot of people also don't realise that Hiruzen showed us a very effective counter to Mokuton in the form of Emna.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

I'm not gonna waste my breath explaining it to you. Sorry.

This ^

 

[Chojuro Sama Kun]

Hiruzen > Hashi

 

[Hipster Madara]

What people need to realise about that fight is, it wasn't meant to prove that Hiruzen could defeat Hashirama and Tobirama at the same time. It was merely to show that Hiruzen had surpassed his predacesors. In any case, there's nothing to suggest that Kishimoto has retconned what he said about Hiruzen, none whatsoever.

Alot of people also don't realise that Hiruzen showed us a very effective counter to Mokuton in the form of Emna.

Hiruzen > Hashi

And so, the flame war begins....


these threads are banned, aren't they?

 

[TouchMyMangos]

To be honest, it won't turn into a flamewar if people just remain civilised.

 

[~MC117~]

Hiruzen>hashirama. He was called the strongest hokage and before someone come with the usual BS *Madara said that only hashirama can stop him* Madara probably doesn't even know about hiruzen's existence or how strong he was in his prime and hiruzen already owned both Tobirama and Hashirama in part 1. Hiruzen>hashirama, deal with it

 

[sage22]

I'm not gonna waste my breath explaining it to you. Sorry.

So what you saying is you cant answer my question right.
That's cool

 

[rollin]

he can heal himself without handseals
had multiple bijuus under his control
can control the bijuus like they were pets
has incredilble life-force
create forests in seconds
created konoha
has techniques that suppress bijuu chakra