Can Sennin Mode escape Genjutsu?

[Chatte]

Yeah finding the debates are hard but these past few days it seems like i'm finding quite a bit e.g. a Kakashi/Tobi dimensional relationship, Tsunade immune to genjutsu and some others

xd that would be great, another logical debater on my threads is a accomplishment every time Lol

I'm going to start making threads more specific to the needs of the forum whilst still doing my other Vs Threads for those who really want it

My next thread will be a Proof on Akatsuki rankings with many things to debate

A Preview:
-Itachi and Pain, Shared Field of Vision = Genjutsu on Nagato
-Kisame and Kakuzu, Chakra Absorption and etc
-Sasori and Kakuzu's battle
-Deidara and Kisame's undecided battle
-Kisame and Itachi, the real winner ?

xd hopefully it attracts a lot of different debates to solve a lot of issues surrounding the order of strength in akatsuki

btw if you ever have anything to debate, ask me anytime

Gotta go more into this. xd
The thing is that I haven't focused more on everyone abilities, just on a few, to be honest. The example here is clear: Tsunade. xd

Oh and regarding the request, I did have one, I wrote it on your profile, remember?
It's about Tsunade as well. Heheh.

And well, I will try to help as best as I can in the future with your threads.

 

[Chatte]

You're wrong Negative Knight. Firstly your body isn't moving when being caught in an illusion, anything what happens in an illusion is just playing in your mind. She need to release her seal and whether it is possible while being captured in an illusion or being fully paralyzed is questionable since it is also a technique she can't use while her Chakra system is manipulated. Secondly, Itachis Tsukuyomi takes only a second in the reality while your mind gets trapped in the world of Tsukuyomi for several days. It's only an instant where your body isn't even moving since your mind is being in an illusion. She wouldn't make a single move even if she could since Tsukuyomi starts end ends almost in the same time.

Above I never heard about Tsunade having a perfect Chakra control, this is a claim people like to use for any character. Further a good Chakra control doesn't automatically help you against Genjutsu, especially when the talk is about the Sharingan. Itachi caught Naruto in a Genjutsu with his finger and 30% of his strength. A Sharingan Genjutsu would probably leave Tsunade in a position Orochimaru was before. If the talk is about Tsukuyomi, he will be mental destroyed like Kakashi was for sure.

Well, yes, he body isn't moving, but Tsunade has been shown to release her seal without moving. And for Tsunade, sorry to say it, but that's the thing.
To enhance her monstruous strenght, she needs perfect chakra control, that's why she chose Sakura to be her apprentice, because she had a perfect chakra control, that's why probably never chose Shizune in the first place.
Also, not to mention that she was able to overcome her fear for blood so somehow maybe she could be able to break the genjutsu as well.

And in the end, it's her about her perception, what if that in between the time it starts and ends, Tsunade could release her seal? She has been shown to be very sharp...

I do agree it is questionable but becasue of her feats I believe she could break it.

Damn it! Didn't mean for the double post. I had the impression someone posted before me.

 

[Negative Knight]

You're wrong Negative Knight. Firstly your body isn't moving when being caught in an illusion, anything what happens in an illusion is just playing in your mind. She need to release her seal and whether it is possible while being captured in an illusion or being fully paralyzed is questionable since it is also a technique she can't use while her Chakra system is manipulated. Secondly, Itachis Tsukuyomi takes only a second in the reality while your mind gets trapped in the world of Tsukuyomi for several days. It's only an instant where your body isn't even moving since your mind is being in an illusion. She wouldn't make a single move even if she could since Tsukuyomi starts end ends almost in the same time.

Above I never heard about Tsunade having a perfect Chakra control, this is a claim people like to use for any character. Further a good Chakra control doesn't automatically help you against Genjutsu, especially when the talk is about the Sharingan. Itachi caught Naruto in a Genjutsu with his finger and 30% of his strength. A Sharingan Genjutsu would probably leave Tsunade in a position Orochimaru was before. If the talk is about Tsukuyomi, he will be mental destroyed like Kakashi was for sure.

Never say another person is wrong when your argument is 50% speculations and assumptions

Your body is not moving when you are in a genjutsu i agree with that, however how did Kisame break the Genjutsu he was in after being captured by Gai ? Yes these abilities may have different magnitudes but the fundamental principle is the same. Kisame has ordinary chakra control and the guy who casted the genjutsu had a ordinary genjutsu, Itachi and Tsunade are both upgraded versions of the two in their respective fields

Yes it is pure speculation that Tsunade releasing her seal in the middle of a genjutsu is a possibility but you can't disregard it being true the same way i can't regard it as a fact assuming that it cannot be false.

Tsunade was talking to Sakura about chakra control or something similar if i remember correctly, it is a trait that runs in medical ninja and as the living best (her Creation Rebirth and other medical skills) she has the utmost chakra control anyone can receive (possibly excluding Naruto and Kabuto because of perfect Sage Mode)

 

[Third Sage]

Above I never heard about Tsunade having a perfect Chakra control, this is a claim people like to use for any character. Further a good Chakra control doesn't automatically help you against Genjutsu, especially when the talk is about the Sharingan.

I thought that Tsunade's perfect chakra control was an obvious thing. No one can deny it.

Anyway, I don't think Tsunade could break out of Tsukuyomi, especially Itachi's, but I'd agree that she'd easily win over regular Genjutsu. Once it is cast upon her, she would get unable of doing anything willingly.

 

[zoezoe]

i dont believe so:shrug: