Can Sasuke use Tsukuyomi?

[Bronze]

@Madara rules:

Read the whole DB before making assumptions.

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This proves that if you believe sasuke & madara have ama & tsukuyomi then you also believe that their susanoo's wield both totsuka & yata which makes zero sense because there is only one yata & totsuka & their in itachi's possession.

Draphsin, you're misinterpreting what the Databook is presenting. The page refers to Itachi because he was the only Susanoo wielder at that time. The last Databook at Itachi's death. That is why it only says Itachi. It is the matter of interpretation and who is looking at the context.

 

[Flawž]

He has limit for his Chakra reserves, though Tsukuyomi uses lot of Chakra. Danzo told him he is not good at Tsukuyomi. So really, why you resort to something uses too much when you're not good at it?

Itachi while alive was able to use tsukuyomi multiple times without major drawbacks Even tho his stamina and chakra reserves arn't that great. Not to mention he was sick with a disease.

I don't think thats the reason why sasuke doesn't use tsukuyomi (if he has it), i believe he doesn't use it because He's terrible at it.

 

[Draphsin]

he gets real butthurt, a naive person.. good catch!

Thanks, this makes any form of the DB useless because sasuke does not have totsuka & yata, neither does madara.

As you proved, two MS powers are needed, it seems like having the same power doesnt grant you the use of susanoo & sasuke's two powers are only slightly different [ama/enton] but different enough to grant him one at least.

 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14460466" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14460466">Madara Rules said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> Draphsin, you're misinterpreting what the Databook is presenting. The page refers to Itachi because he was the only Susanoo wielder at that time. The last Databook at Itachi's death. That is why it only says Itachi. It is the matter of interpretation and who is looking at the context. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Now youre just disproving everything youve said... your proofs are also coming from that time when Itachi was the only user. omg, the intellect in this person is to damn low.</div>

 

[Bronze]

Itachi while alive was able to use tsukuyomi multiple times without major drawbacks Even tho his stamina and chakra reserves arn't that great. Not to mention he was sick with a disease.

I don't think thats the reason why sasuke doesn't use tsukuyomi (if he has it), i believe he doesn't use it because He's terrible at it.

He can only use MS technique 3 times. Though i agree with you in the end.

 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14460473" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14460473">Draphsin said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> Thanks, this makes any form of the DB useless because sasuke does not have totsuka &amp; yata, neither does madara.<br /> <br /> As you proved, two MS powers are needed, it seems like having the same power doesnt grant you the use of susanoo &amp; sasuke's two powers are only slightly different [ama/enton] but different enough to grant him one at least. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Yeah, this can also be proved by Obito, who implanted many Uchicha eyes on his left eye, it still didnt grant him any susanoo. You need to unclock your own spesific MS techniques from your eyes. Madaras power is unknown, but there was a naruto game which had a video showing a glimpse of one of his power. Some reversing powers or so.</div>

 

[Draphsin]

Draphsin, you're misinterpreting what the Databook is presenting. The page refers to Itachi because he was the only Susanoo wielder at that time. The last Databook at Itachi's death. That is why it only says Itachi. It is the matter of interpretation and who is looking at the context.

No, the DB is old news & the manga is new, the manga is what kishi wrote after the DB so it's info holds the most credibility.

Itachi was the only susanoo user yes but that even further proves that you can't use anything written on it, as fact if it's been contradicted, & in this case it has been contradicted. Sasuke uses ama & enton, he does not have tsukuyomi which is what the DB says you need in order to awaken susanoo. But that DB only refers to itachi so it doesnt apply to sasuke, nothing on it does.

Sasuke doesnt have tsuku manga fact & the DB in this case cannot be used because it's been contradicted.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Tsukuyomi has distinctive color pattern, a negative.

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As you can see sasuke has displayed it once, but he cant manipulate time and space as itachi.

 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14460549" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14460549">Draphsin said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> No, the DB is old news &amp; the manga is new, the manga is what kishi wrote <b>after</b> the DB so it's info holds the most credibility.<br /> <br /> Itachi was the only susanoo user yes but that even further proves that you can't use <b>anything written on it,</b> as fact if it's been contradicted, &amp; in this case it <b>has</b> been contradicted. Sasuke uses ama &amp; enton, he does not have tsukuyomi which is what the DB says you need in order to awaken susanoo. But that DB only refers to <b>itachi</b> so it doesnt apply to sasuke, nothing on it does.<br /> <br /> Sasuke doesnt have tsuku manga fact &amp; the DB in this case cannot be used because it's been contradicted. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>/ thread and discussion,</div>

 

[Bronze]

No, the DB is old news & the manga is new, the manga is what kishi wrote after the DB so it's info holds the most credibility.

Itachi was the only susanoo user yes but that even further proves that you can't use anything written on it, as fact if it's been contradicted, & in this case it has been contradicted. Sasuke uses ama & enton, he does not have tsukuyomi which is what the DB says you need in order to awaken susanoo. But that DB only refers to itachi so it doesnt apply to sasuke, nothing on it does.

Sasuke doesnt have tsuku manga fact & the DB in this case cannot be used because it's been contradicted.

Uhhh...no. Nowhere in the Manga contradicts the fact Susanoo needs Tsukuyomi and Amatersu. And lol, Kishimoto also wrote the Databook. Just because something is old, doesn't mean its wrong, unless you're saying we shouldn't use any Manga scan that's over 1 year old.

Enton /=/ MS technique i am afraid. Its manipulation of Amatersu. Doesn't make it any new Jutsu. Its like saying V2 is MS technique because its different than other versions. And he used Tsukuyomi against Killer Bee and Danzo as Manga showed. Period.

Too bad it hasn't lol.

Tsukuyomi has distinctive color pattern, a negative.

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As you can see sasuke has displayed it once, but he cant manipulate time and space as itachi.

With that, anyone DB denial can STFU.

 

[Cooh]

Too the people who say Sasuke doesn't have tsuku, how do you explain the inverted color pattern and the pain in Sasukes eye when he jused genjutsu against killer b?

 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14460585" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14460585">Madara Rules said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> Uhhh...no. Nowhere in the Manga contradicts the fact Susanoo needs Tsukuyomi and Amatersu. And lol, Kishimoto also wrote the Databook. Just because something is old, doesn't mean its wrong, unless you're saying we shouldn't use any Manga scan that's over 1 year old. <br /> <br /> Enton /=/ MS technique i am afraid. Its manipulation of Amatersu. Doesn't make it any new Jutsu. Its like saying V2 is MS technique because its different than other versions. And he used Tsukuyomi against Killer Bee and Danzo as Manga showed. Period. <br /> <br /> Too bad it hasn't lol.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> With that, anyone DB denial can STFU.<br /> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Sasuke has controll of his amaterasu, while Itachi hasnt. As we saw in the killer B fight, Sasuke did remove the ama from karin. If it was Itachi then Karin would have died. a controll of something is also being a jutsu. Its just like Kamui, The one eye obito has is to manipulate his body to be able to travel through space, while the eye Kakashi has is to manipulate object to move to the other space.<br /> The controll is a jutsu</div>

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Uhhh...no. Nowhere in the Manga contradicts the fact Susanoo needs Tsukuyomi and Amatersu. And lol, Kishimoto also wrote the Databook. Just because something is old, doesn't mean its wrong, unless you're saying we shouldn't use any Manga scan that's over 1 year old.

Enton /=/ MS technique i am afraid. Its manipulation of Amatersu. Doesn't make it any new Jutsu. Its like saying V2 is MS technique because its different than other versions. And he used Tsukuyomi against Killer Bee and Danzo as Manga showed. Period.

Too bad it hasn't lol.



With that, anyone DB denial can STFU.

Old information is still old information.There are manga scans that contradict the databook so if there's anyone who is in denial it's you.

 

[slimreaper]

every time itachi uses tsukuyomi the color turns negative

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and here sasuke's tsukuyomi makes the color negative

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sasuke has tsukuyomi, how much proof do you need?

 

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<div class="bbWrapper">Sasuke used genjutsu on danzo, not tsukuyomi. <br /> <div class="messageHide messageHide--image"> You must be registered for see images </div><br /> <br /> Danzo used Itachis Tsukuyomi to compare Sasuke genjutsu. He literally said that sasukes genjutsu isnt in a high level, and that Itachis tsuku isnt reachable.<br /> <div class="messageHide messageHide--image"> You must be registered for see images </div>He didnt say anything about Sasuke having it. And about Killer Bee fight, yeah if he used tsukuyomi in that fight, why not use it with Danzo? Because he couldnt because he didnt have it. His fight with Danzo was more valuable and life risking than with B</div>

 

[Cooh]

Sasuke has controll of his amaterasu, while Itachi hasnt. As we saw in the killer B fight, Sasuke did remove the ama from karin. If it was Itachi then Karin would have died. a controll of something is also being a jutsu. Its just like Kamui, The one eye obito has is to manipulate his body to be able to travel through space, while the eye Kakashi has is to manipulate object to move to the other space.
The controll is a jutsu

Its shape manipulation, hes just better then Itachi at using amaterasu. Sasuke already showed with chidori that he's good at manipulating chakra, kakashi can't manipulate his chidori either.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

every time itachi uses tsukuyomi the color turns negative

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and here sasuke's tsukuyomi makes the color negative

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sasuke has tsukuyomi, how much proof do you need?

So does Orochimaru have Tsukiyomi too?I mean he made the background negative when using that genjutsu on Sasuke and Sakura back in Part 1 so by your logic he must have it right?

 

[AlphaScythian]

Sasuke used genjutsu on danzo, not tsukuyomi.

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Danzo used Itachis Tsukuyomi to compare Sasuke genjutsu. He literally said that sasukes genjutsu isnt in a high level, and that Itachis tsuku isnt reachable.
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He didnt say anything about Sasuke having it

He clearly didnt as he didnt have backlash from it as tsukuyomi does. However with bee it was tsukuyomi.

 

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<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=14460695" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-14460695">AlphaScythian said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> He clearly didnt as he didnt have backlash from it as tsukuyomi does. However with bee it was tsukuyomi. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>This fight was after the Killer B fight, meaning that if he could use the jutsu because of his feelings interefering, then he could also use it with Danzous fight. Sasuke isnt a kid, he is clever enough to understand the trick to use it, by just the first time.</div>

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Its shape manipulation, hes just better then Itachi at using amaterasu. Sasuke already showed with chidori that he's good at manipulating chakra, kakashi can't manipulate his chidori either.

Except he shapes the Amaterasu with his other eye.Not to mention the Enton itself can be used seperately as shown with the Enton Orb and Enton Arrows.