Can Sasuke travel faster than sound?

[Jokule67]

all this shows is that naruto can react and move faster than the person who is utilizing ftg, in that case its minato and thats why the latter required it to escape Ays punch. anyone above kcm naruto is reaction and shunshin speed would also avoid ay without ftg, doesnt mean their speed is on par with teleportation itself.

ftg is teleportation which happens instantly. so basically you are saying narutos speed is instant lol just stop. ive facepalmed enough. and they say sasuke fanboys are the worst smh

I understand everything you're saying. However Kishis manga logic disagrees comparing Naruto's shuunshin to FTG twice. So believe what you want.

Body Flicker is a teleportation technique. It even says that in the damn scan. Shuunshin/Body Flicker/Teleportation.

Ever heard of Shisui the Teleporter? You need to facepalm yourself.

 

[NarutoX28]

Read what I told the other guy. This is kishis manga logic. Regardless what your mind tells you Kishi already wrote what he wanted

Body Flicker and Teleportation are used interchangeably, but they're clearly incomparable. Shunshin is an amplification of the user's speed through chakra which involves the user traveling through physical space in a specific increment of time. Teleportation is traveling from one point to another without traveling through a physical space. They're incomparable and stating how Shunshin is compared to Teleportation is being intellectually dishonest, especially when FTG is sometimes referred to as Shunshin as well even though they're entirely unrelated.

 

[ComplexCity]

You are aware that Body Flicker is Teleporting right? You are the one being delusional slapping your own logic on a story you didnt write

The speeds were always meant to be comparable. Otherwise Naruto could never be as fast as FTG. Shuunshin is Teleporting according to kishi.

You're making literally zero sense by your logic everyone who can shunshin (and there are quite alot of chars that can) is as fast as Minato's FTG. I also hope your aware that S/T justu do not use the laws of speed hence meaning they will always have the same results regardless if Iruka uses it right?

 

[Haloguy2710]

m8 he's as quick as me

 

[NeutralDjinn]

Eh, it wasn't until a few months ago that I realized anime shonen characters were faster than sound. Even now, I think the speed that people calculate is far above the mangaka's intentions.

 

[NeutralDjinn]

Body Flicker and Teleportation are used interchangeably, but they're clearly incomparable. Shunshin is an amplification of the user's speed through chakra which involves the user traveling through physical space in a specific increment of time. Teleportation is traveling from one point to another without traveling through a physical space. They're incomparable and stating how Shunshin is compared to Teleportation is being intellectually dishonest, especially when FTG is sometimes referred to as Shunshin as well even though they're entirely unrelated.

^This. additionally, Body Flicker technique is just a description that means a technique that makes the body "flicker" and dissapear. This can be accomplished through high speeds or teleportation, or time-stop etc. However, shinobi in Naruto tend to mainly use the speed enhancing one, though there are multiple forms of that as well.

 

[The Necromancer]

Yes. Most Jounin level shinobi can already. Hell, some Chuunin can.

You are aware that Body Flicker is Teleporting right? You are the one being delusional slapping your own logic on a story you didnt write

The speeds were always meant to be comparable. Otherwise Naruto could never be as fast as FTG. Shuunshin is Teleporting according to kishi.

You're so far off it would take an explanation of the entirety of the manga to right your opinions.

For now, this scan will have to do. Hopefully it helps educate you.

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S/T and Teleportation are not the same thing in this manga. FTG is Instant, Shunshin is very fast which is slower than instant in every sense of the word.

 

[LORD D AIZEN]

well for one FTG cant be measured along with the logics of physical speed which means naruto speed is not equal to FTG.
secondly RSM naruto speed should by right only be rivaled by that of kaguya and his kids, the juubi jin or someone using the 8 gates.
sasuke speed without his right eye's power should by right absolute fodder against or compared to RSM speed....sasuke is fast indeed but naruto has the power to be even faster.

 

[BlacLord™]

Speed of sound is only about mach 1... CS1 Sasuke outpaced that in Part 1.

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Consensus is that by the War Arc, Naruto/Sasuke level and above are moving at hypersonic speeds. (Mach 5-25)

 

[-immortal-]

Basically most ninjas are faster than sound.

Wouldn't say that Sasuke is the fastest or that he is even close in speed to the fastest shinobi considering that he was in deadlock Momoshiki whom Darui was clashing evenly with while Ei can dodge Amaterasu and keep Naruto from getting past him outside of Naruto's Yellow flash shunshin.

He couldn't land a hit on Shin when he attempted to strike him down with his sword either.

He's fast compared to the average shinobi, but not compared to Kage levels.

sasuke was in a deadlock because of momoshiki??

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I haven't seen naruto hit adult shin one time

- not fast in compared to kage lvl? but faster then Rikoudo lvl ? (footspeed)

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[TheSages456]

sasuke was in a deadlock because of momoshiki??

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I haven't seen naruto hit adult shin one time

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I'm expecting all of the usual excuses though, especially the fan-favorite "Sasuke was weakened against Shin so it doesn't count." :lol

Only Sasuke's eye powers were stated to be weakened by the man himself, not his physical stats or anything else.

- not fast in compared to kage lvl? but faster then Rikoudo lvl ? (footspeed)

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You post the scan which Madara clearly sees Sasuke coming but is more concerned about getting his other eye to be bothered. This is ignoring the fact that Sasuke couldn't even hit Madara when he finally came back from the Kamui dimension and was being dodged by him while he was blind.

I already know where this is headed. You are going to keep posting this scan which doesn't even support your point while ignoring everything else.

 

[The Necromancer]

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I'm expecting all of the usual excuses though, especially the fan-favorite "Sasuke was weakened against Shin so it doesn't count." :lol

Only Sasuke's eye powers were stated to be weakened by the man himself, not his physical stats or anything else.

You post the scan which Madara clearly sees Sasuke coming but is more concerned about getting his other eye to be bothered. This is ignoring the fact that Sasuke couldn't even hit Madara when he finally came back from the Kamui dimension and was being dodged by him while he was blind.

I already know where this is headed. You are going to keep posting this scan which doesn't even support your point while ignoring everything else.

JJ Madara acknowledges his speed feats. That should be enough for you.

 

[TheSages456]

JJ Madara acknowledges his speed feats. That should be enough for you.

Madara stated that he was fast. When did I ever claim otherwise?

Madara was already impressed with Sasuke's swiftness prior to becoming a jinchuriki.

Madara simply stating that Sasuke is fast doesn't allow the distortion of feats to satisfy one's bias. Sasuke's level of speed which Madara deems fast was traced by Shin casually and is a caliber that all of the Kage can keep pace with. That's the reality of what's shown to the reader.

Sasuke is fast, but that would rarely factor in significantly against competent Kage level shinobi. He is fast compared to the average shinobi.

 

[The Necromancer]

Madara stated that he was fast. When did I ever claim otherwise?

Madara was already impressed with Sasuke's swiftness prior to becoming a jinchuriki.

Madara simply stating that Sasuke is fast doesn't allow the distortion of feats to satisfy one's bias. Sasuke's level of speed which Madara deems fast was traced by Shin casually and is a caliber that all of the Kage can keep pace with. That's the reality of what's shown to the reader.

Sasuke is fast, but that would rarely factor in significantly against competent Kage level shinobi. He is fast compared to the average shinobi.

Literally every word of this can be said about Naruto's shunshin speed, which was untraceable to the eye and able to traverse hundreds of meters in an instant.

Speed in Naruto is not consistent. Never has been. So to say ______ was not the fastest because in ________ situation he didn't achieve _______ is foolish.

You can't dismiss Sasuke's vast speed, and blatantly godlike portrayal of speed just because he didn't use it in ever situation possible, as Naruto had speeds that were portrayed to be near instantaneous, yet I don't see him running circles around MS/Rinne Obito.

 

[NarutoX28]

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I'm expecting all of the usual excuses though, especially the fan-favorite "Sasuke was weakened against Shin so it doesn't count." :lol

Only Sasuke's eye powers were stated to be weakened by the man himself, not his physical stats or anything else.

Except you do realize that being chakra depleted leads to a drop in stats correct?

 

[Jiren]

Madara stated that he was fast. When did I ever claim otherwise?

Madara was already impressed with Sasuke's swiftness prior to becoming a jinchuriki.

Madara simply stating that Sasuke is fast doesn't allow the distortion of feats to satisfy one's bias. Sasuke's level of speed which Madara deems fast was traced by Shin casually and is a caliber that all of the Kage can keep pace with. That's the reality of what's shown to the reader.

Sasuke is fast, but that would rarely factor in significantly against competent Kage level shinobi. He is fast compared to the average shinobi.

Madara the guy who was weaving Tobirama with Juubi Jin powers capable of blitzing anyone in the alliance said Sasuke was fast and praised no one else.

 

[Phantaminum]

He can teleport instantly do yess

 

[Shogo Makishima]

Ameno = instant

 

[Umari Senju]

Bruh, sasuke was faster than sound back in part 1 when he dodged zaku's soundwave in his CM level 1 state.

XD well this pretty much ended the thread right here!

OT: yes. Yes he is.

Fact of the matter is Sasuke has always been fast. Kakashi devoted time to Sasuke to increase his speed to use Chidori. Almost everyone Sasuke has fought has mentioned how fast he is. And he teleports. Literally teleporting instantly from one point to another is akin to the speed of light which is faster than sound.

Yes Naruto is fast too. But it took most of the manga for him to catch up to Sasuke's speed.

Sasuke is the fast one
Naruto is the strong one.

 

[TheSages456]

Literally every word of this can be said about Naruto's shunshin speed, which was untraceable to the eye and able to traverse hundreds of meters in an instant.

Speed in Naruto is not consistent. Never has been. So to say ______ was not the fastest because in ________ situation he didn't achieve _______ is foolish.

You can't dismiss Sasuke's vast speed, and blatantly godlike portrayal of speed just because he didn't use it in ever situation possible, as Naruto had speeds that were portrayed to be near instantaneous, yet I don't see him running circles around MS/Rinne Obito.

If character X fights character Y and doesn't blitz him, then that simply means that they couldn't blitz character Y. It doesn't mean that character X isn't fast.

Sasuke is merely stated to be fast. He doesn't have any of the panels that Naruto did when his Yellow Flash Shunshin was shown. Madara considers Sasuke fast, but the man still can't move faster than Shin can perceive or at a pace that Kage level ninja can't follow. Sasuke doesn't have the speed portrayal that characters like Naruto or Ei have.

Except you do realize that being chakra depleted leads to a drop in stats correct?

And he didn't say that his stats were hindered, only his eye powers with Naruto even backing it up with "Yup, that makes sense!", not "Wait Sasuke, you were moving slower than usual back there!".

Sounds like an unnecessary assumption on your part since nothing else other than being unable to use higher ocular powers is even remotely hinted at.
We saw a chakra depleted Sasuke before. He was panting, showed signs of exhaustion and couldn't keep his dojutsu active.

Madara the guy who was weaving Tobirama with Juubi Jin powers capable of blitzing anyone in the alliance said Sasuke was fast and praised no one else.

Madara called, Ei, Tobirama and Sasuke himself fast before even becoming a jinchuriki. Madara wasn't capable of blitzing everyone after he became a jinchuriki.