Can Sasuke defeat Momoshiki?

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Enough hatred. Uchiha and Senju were killing each other for a long time prior to Konoha yet they still united anyway. Senju didn't directly kill Uchiha in Konoha. Hurizen, Danzo, Homura, and Koharu took things upon themselves. Hashirama would never allow such. As for the filler, funny how those two have to live with the fact that Sasuke killed their boy Danzo and got away with it.
Of course they did, and not only that they oppressed them. Hashirama even blamed himself for it in the end. Those you're accusing are the students of Tobirama Senju the enemy of the Uchiha clan, and Shisui was the son of Kagami the student of Tobriama. He was another traitor to the Uchiha, much like your fave both dogs of the Senju will. You think the elders care about Danzo, rhey still advise Naruto, so they still hold sway and power. Your boy Sasuke also serves them, like a good dog.



Madara jobbed to Black Zetsu and Kaguya. While they along with Momo and Kin were defeated inpart due to Sasuke. Facts you need to accept.
Please BZ was deus ex machina, getting taken out by a plot device isn't jobbing. While your boy has been jobbing from the get go.
 

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Of course they did, and not only that they oppressed them. Hashirama even blamed himself for it in the end. Those you're accusing are the students of Tobirama Senju the enemy of the Uchiha clan, and Shisui was the son of Kagami the student of Tobriama. He was another traitor to the Uchiha, much like your fave both dogs of the Senju will. You think the elders care about Danzo, rhey still advise Naruto, so they still hold sway and power. Your boy Sasuke also serves them, like a good dog.
Say what you will of the others but can you atleast acknowledge Hashirama as being respectable? How did their advising work out? Weren't they opposed to Mitsuki whom Naruto still allowed to be there not listening to whatever they were saying?

Please BZ was deus ex machina, getting taken out by a plot device isn't jobbing. While your boy has been jobbing from the get go.
Every Ohtsutsuuki he's come in contact with has been defeated. Isshiki is in the process.
 

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Say what you will of the others but can you atleast acknowledge Hashirama as being respectable? How did their advising work out? Weren't they opposed to Mitsuki whom Naruto still allowed to be there not listening to whatever they were saying?
He was a weak leader and too soft on Nazirama, even though he knew he was cancer. They wanted him offed, and he would've been had it turned out he was a traitor.


Every Ohtsutsuuki he's come in contact with has been defeated. Isshiki is in the process.
Sure, yet he's jobbed against them, so..
 

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He was a weak leader and too soft on Nazirama, even though he knew he was cancer. They wanted him offed, and he would've been had it turned out he was a traitor.
Hashirama was an Uchiha ally and would have killed Tobirama or even himself if it would promote peace amongst the clans.

Sure, yet he's jobbed against them, so..
"Jobbed" - Who remained standing alive, and who was sealed and killed?
 

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Hashirama was an Uchiha ally and would have killed Tobirama or even himself if it would promote peace amongst the clans.
Absolute rubbish, he never did that even though he knew what Tobirama was like.



"Jobbed" - Who remained standing alive, and who was sealed and killed?
What a weak comeback, how does any of that make him less of a jobber.
 

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Absolute rubbish, he never did that even though he knew what Tobirama was like.
Madara spared Tobirama aswell.

What a weak comeback, how does any of that make him less of a jobber.
Kaguya vs Sasuke - sealed with Teamwork. Kinshiki vs Sasuke round one - Succeeds in obtaining the scroll. Even despite Momo being there for a 2v1. Round 2 - Base Sasuke easily evades him while holding the heiress. Round 3 - Defeats him with some aid from his Kage subordinates.

No excuses.
 

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Madara spared Tobirama aswell.
Madara isn't Hashirama. Hashirama said he would eliminate all threats to the village, yet didn't lift a finger against Nazirama. There's a clear cut difference between the two.



Kaguya vs Sasuke - sealed with Teamwork. Kinshiki vs Sasuke round one - Succeeds in obtaining the scroll. Even despite Momo being there for a 2v1. Round 2 - Base Sasuke easily evades him while holding the heiress. Round 3 - Defeats him with some aid from his Kage subordinates.

No excuses.
Kaguya vs Sasuke saved by Sakura and Obito
Kinshiki vs Sasuke- Sasuke got stomled ran away.
Sasuke holding one who will soon forgo the Uchiha name- Shikamaru saved his ass
Round 3 Sasuke jumps in when the Kage he works for are stomping his ass.
Round 4 - can't cut theough Momoshiki who can be injured by Micro rasengan, and gets saved and healed by Naruto.
Round 4B --got stomped while Burrito lands a base Naruto's rasemgan to finish Momoshiti
Urushiki - jobbed to him everytime (was it 3, 4, 5+)
Jigen - stomped in round 1 ran away like he ran away from kinshiki
Ishhiti - pushed his shit in, saved by plot arnour and Burrito not being killed.

That's som serious unrivalled jobbing right there.
 

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Madara isn't Hashirama. Hashirama said he would eliminate all threats to the village, yet didn't lift a finger against Nazirama. There's a clear cut difference between the two.
Didn't Madara give terms to that Hashirama would have fulfilled but chose to spare Tobirama?

Kaguya vs Sasuke saved by Sakura and Obito
Kinshiki vs Sasuke- Sasuke got stomled ran away.
Sasuke holding one who will soon forgo the Uchiha name- Shikamaru saved his ass
Round 3 Sasuke jumps in when the Kage he works for are stomping his ass.
Round 4 - can't cut theough Momoshiki who can be injured by Micro rasengan, and gets saved and healed by Naruto.
Round 4B --got stomped while Burrito lands a base Naruto's rasemgan to finish Momoshiti
Urushiki - jobbed to him everytime (was it 3, 4, 5+)
Jigen - stomped in round 1 ran away like he ran away from kinshiki
Ishhiti - pushed his shit in, saved by plot arnour and Burrito not being killed.

That's som serious unrivalled jobbing right there.
What part of no excuses don't you get? Teamwork is valid, as is ambushes, outnumbering, etc. This isn't sports competition with rules. They're ninja vs god-like aliens. Kaguya - sealed. Kinshiki - had ALL his attacks evaded and dodged. Base Sasuke was not worried about him at all and you like ignoring his ability to teleport huh? How does he work FOR the Kage? I don't recall seeing them give him ANY orders. Not even Naruto. And the personal demand Naruto gave to his son, Sasuke broke. Boruto had a boost from Naruto. We don't talk about filler Urashiki.
 

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Didn't Madara give terms to that Hashirama would have fulfilled but chose to spare Tobirama?
Madara isn't Hashirama.



What part of no excuses don't you get? Teamwork is valid, as is ambushes, outnumbering, etc. This isn't sports competition with rules. They're ninja vs god-like aliens. Kaguya - sealed. Kinshiki - had ALL his attacks evaded and dodged. Base Sasuke was not worried about him at all and you like ignoring his ability to teleport huh? How does he work FOR the Kage? I don't recall seeing them give him ANY orders. Not even Naruto. And the personal demand Naruto gave to his son, Sasuke broke. Boruto had a boost from Naruto. We don't talk about filler Urashiki.
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You are giving excuses, he jobbed all the way through and needed to be bailed out.
 

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Nope, that's why Hashirama wanted to make him Hokage, but Tobirama undermined him. While Hashirama's policies are the reason the Uxhiha were persecuted and wuped out, he was a hypocrite.

Facts, Jim.
I recall Madara in his dying words talking about how he's not good at raising disciples and that Hashirama's way may have been correct afterall.
 

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I recall Madara in his dying words talking about how he's not good at raising disciples and that Hashirama's way may have been correct afterall.
There are 2 reasons why the Uchiha were ousted in Konoha.

1) Madara was misled by BZ
2) Uchiha clan wanted to be in constant war (with everyone and with themselves) due to the nature of attaining higher Sharingan power

Because of this, Tobirama was not convinced about the Uchiha Clan being peaceful people. On top of Hashirama's policy of having them becoming Konoha's police. The tendency to act in violence is high for them and therefore are not trustworthy people.

This is even up to the point of the Danzo conundrum. It was a self-fulfilling prophesy for both sides. To anticipate the uprising of the Uchiha, they must strike first to not be obliterated. To ensure the safety of the Uchiha, they must strike so that their clan was not destined to be destroyed.
 
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