Can Rinnengan Sasuke absorb Natural energy?

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

You can't "sense" natural energy as its the earth's energy. Feel? Yes, sense? Not unless you have sage mode.

I see you salty as f
You mad Sasuke has both Body and Eye affinity?

 

[KonohaMMA]

Like that title says, I was wondreing with the Rinnengan can Sasuke absorb natural energy such as Senjutsu? I was thinking since Sasuke fully mastered the Curse Seal which is a form of Senjutsu and Sasuke was able to control Jugo Senjutsu, doesn't that mean that Sasuke knows how to control Senjutsu?

Anyway since Sasuke can control Senjutsu, would his Rinnengan allow him to absorb Senjutsu to turn it into Sage Mode?

No he cant. Madara knew this thats why he never absorbed it. Its actually a manga fact that you can't anyone who saids otherwise don't know what their talking about.

 

[The Necromancer]

No he cant. Madara knew this thats why he never absorbed it. Its actually a manga fact that you can't anyone who saids otherwise don't know what their talking about.

Except, ya know, Pain. Many times.

Oh, and Madara. Sorry.

 

[Jokule67]

He like anyone else can absorb senjutsu chakra. What he can't do is absorb natural energy from the universe

I know that. What I mean is I feel like he can absorb certain moves with no consequences depending on the amount of natural energy he himself control.

This also explains why he hardly absorbs attacks

 

[Gerkak]

Except, ya know, Pain. Many times.

Oh, and Madara. Sorry.

Pain never absorbed natural energy an neither did madara. What they absorbed was senjutsu chakra (chakra+natural energy), there exists a difference

 

[Jokule67]

Except, ya know, Pain. Many times.

Oh, and Madara. Sorry.

Madara cheated. He channeled it with the hashirama genes he had and gloated about it lol.

 

[KonohaMMA]

Except, ya know, Pain. Many times.

Oh, and Madara. Sorry.

Lol pain did once and turned into a statue and died. Madara never did. I'm literally saying this is Manga fact. Look it up. Lol don't make things up.

 

[The Necromancer]

Pain never absorbed natural energy an neither did madara. What they absorbed was senjutsu chakra (chakra+natural energy), there exists a difference

I would hardly consider that a difference.

From what we know, Senjutsu doesn't change forms when combined with chakra, just as oil and water don't mix. If anything, it simply means that senjutsu based attacks don't contain as much Senjutsu as the user. Which is obviously logical and explains why those attacks don't harm the Preta user that much.

But to say that Senjutsu chakra and attacks with Senjusu chakra are fundamentally different is foolish.

 

[Jokule67]

Pain never absorbed natural energy an neither did madara. What they absorbed was senjutsu chakra (chakra+natural energy), there exists a difference

There is a difference but not much. Pain absorbed Naruto WHOLE Sage Mode and turned into a toad. That is Natural Energy Overdose

 

[KonohaMMA]

I would hardly consider that a difference.

From what we know, Senjutsu doesn't change forms when combined with chakra, just as oil and water don't mix. If anything, it simply means that senjutsu based attacks don't contain as much Senjutsu as the user. Which is obviously logical and explains why those attacks don't harm the Preta user that much.

But to say that Senjutsu chakra and attacks with Senjusu chakra are fundamentally different is foolish.

Lmao you need Senjutsu chakra to get Sage Chakra. Sage chakra is full natural energy. Only someone who has senjutsu genes and chakra can get sage mode. So there is a difference and your making a fool of yourself.

 

[The Necromancer]

Lmao you need Senjutsu chakra to get Sage Chakra. Sage chakra is full natural energy. Only someone who has senjutsu genes and chakra can get sage mode. So there is a difference and your making a fool of yourself.

Please stop responding to me. You're not worth my time. I moved my attention to Gerkak. Thank you.

 

[Jokule67]

Now that I think about it Pain did absorb ALOT of senjutsu attacks. However as soon as he absorbed it from Naruto body he couldnt take it.

 

[super michael]

Probably small amounts. If he tries to absorb anything Naruto throws like lava RS for instance, I'm calling frog statue. Preta path has limits, even jj madara knew this.

Nagato was able to absorb Naruto raw Senjutsu, but turned to stone due to no experience with Senjutsu and Sage Mode, although if Naruto force feed too much Senjutsu then yes I can see Sasuke turning to Frog. Although to be fair Madara used Limbo when Naruto was doing Lava RS.

His body already did handle it. Remember that the Curse Mark is basically natural chakra.

Yes I pointed that out in the 1st post, Sasuke body able to handle Curse Mark and Sasuke being able to control Jugo Senjutsu.

Senjutsu chakra yes
Straight nature energy no

U need training to learn to draw in Nature energy or u could just be injected with it via the dragon sage

I guess its true Sasuke would need training to feel Natural energy, otherwise he can't feel natural energy and absorb. Guess Sasuke still needs a master to learn. Sasuke should definitly get infected with Dragon Sage mode like Kabuto.

No he cant. Madara knew this thats why he never absorbed it. Its actually a manga fact that you can't anyone who saids otherwise don't know what their talking about.

Hmm guess your right, I forgot Madara attempted to absorb Natual energy when Edo or alive, guess one needs training to absorb Natural energy. I guess that explains why Madara waited to absorb Hashirama Sage Mode.


So it seems Rinnengan or not if one isn't trained in feeling Natural energy it is impossible to feel and absorb Natural energy for Sage Mode, I guess Rinnengan allowed the ninja to steal someone Sage Mode and make it their own like Madara did but that is it. One needs knowledge about Sage Mode or experience to not turn to Statue.

 

[Gerkak]

I would hardly consider that a difference.

From what we know, Senjutsu doesn't change forms when combined with chakra, just as oil and water don't mix. If anything, it simply means that senjutsu based attacks don't contain as much Senjutsu as the user. Which is obviously logical and explains why those attacks don't harm the Preta user that much.

But to say that Senjutsu chakra and attacks with Senjusu chakra are fundamentally different is foolish.

I never said senjutsu changes when combined with chakra, where did you get that from? Nor did I deny that preta path users could absorb senjutsu related attacks.

And lastly I never said there existed a difference between senjutsu chakra and chakra supplemented with senjutsu chakra, again where do you get these from?

My point was that natural energy on its own was never shown to be absorbed by either madara or nargato. What they absorbed was pre-made senjutsu chakra which is a mixture of chakra and natural energy. To put it simply absorbing and balancing natural energy with their own chakra is something they haven't shown and to my knowledge can't do.

Perhaps you responded to the wrong person.

There is a difference but not much. Pain absorbed Naruto WHOLE Sage Mode and turned into a toad. That is Natural Energy Overdose

I am not concerned with the degree of difference, my concern is that absorbing natural energy from their surroundings was never done by either character. Unless you or anyone else can refute this with proof then the point still stands.

 

[shadowcb]

The rinnengan doesn't allow the user to absorb pure natural energy. A rinnengan user, who can use the absorption jutsu, can absorb sage charka (senjutsu) which contain natural energy. So "in a way" the user can absorb it as long as it has been converted into chakra.

The rinnengan doesn't allow the user to absorb pure natural energy and create senjutsu. There is a huge difference between a curse seal and a sage mode. The curse seal is like a poor man's sage mode. It allows someone who can't sense, control, and manipulate natural energy to be able to use senjutsu.

A curse seal user never learns how to sense, control, or manipulate natural energy. They only learn how to manipulate and control the curse seal which does all the work for them. The curse seal gathers, control, manipulate and balances the natural energy to create senjutsu.

A sage mode user is one who can sense, control, and manipulate natural energy. They are able to freely flow it in and out of their bodies. They are able to balance it out to create senjutsu.

That's the reason Sasuke didn't know anything about natural energy or senjutsu during the war, even though he mastered the curse seal. That's the reason he couldn't sense, control, and manipulate natural energy during the war and required Juugo to create a senjutsu susanoo.

 

[KonohaMMA]

Nagato was able to absorb Naruto raw Senjutsu, but turned to stone due to no experience with Senjutsu and Sage Mode, although if Naruto force feed too much Senjutsu then yes I can see Sasuke turning to Frog. Although to be fair Madara used Limbo when Naruto was doing Lava RS.



Yes I pointed that out in the 1st post, Sasuke body able to handle Curse Mark and Sasuke being able to control Jugo Senjutsu.



I guess its true Sasuke would need training to feel Natural energy, otherwise he can't feel natural energy and absorb. Guess Sasuke still needs a master to learn. Sasuke should definitly get infected with Dragon Sage mode like Kabuto.



Hmm guess your right, I forgot Madara attempted to absorb Natual energy when Edo or alive, guess one needs training to absorb Natural energy. I guess that explains why Madara waited to absorb Hashirama Sage Mode.


So it seems Rinnengan or not if one isn't trained in feeling Natural energy it is impossible to feel and absorb Natural energy for Sage Mode, I guess Rinnengan allowed the ninja to steal someone Sage Mode and make it their own like Madara did but that is it. One needs knowledge about Sage Mode or experience to not turn to Statue.

Not only knowledge but even a sage can't absorb too much natural energy or they will die as well. Thats why absorbing techniques won't work.

 

[KonohaMMA]

Please stop responding to me. You're not worth my time. I moved my attention to Gerkak. Thank you.

Oh is the little baby upset that he didn't get his way? Lol you always argue and talk smack. Grow up. Don't act like the victim.

 

[The Necromancer]

I never said there was senjutsu changes when combined with natural energy, where did you get that from? Nor did I deny that preta path users could absorb senjutsu related attacks.

And lastly I never said there existed a difference between senjutsu chakra and chakra supplemented with senjutsu chakra, again where do you get these from

My point was that natural energy on its own was never been shown to be absorbed by either madara or nargato. What they absorbed was pre-made senjutsu chakra which is a mixture of chakra and natural energy. To put it simply absorbing and balancing natural energy with their own chakra is something they haven't shown and to my knowledge can't do.

Perhaps you responded to the wrong person.

@bold is is where you said everything you didn't even think you said.

To say that Senjutsu attacks and "natural energy" are different implies this debate. I don't understand how you can believe one without the other.

The OP is not asking whether Madara and Sasuke can absorb Senjutsu from the world and enter "Sage Mode" he is asking if he can absorb an unlimited number of Senjutsu based attacks (from Naruto, or Kabuto, or Jiraiya) without turning to stone.

 

[Solidus Solidus Solidus]

Lmao you need Senjutsu chakra to get Sage Chakra. Sage chakra is full natural energy. Only someone who has senjutsu genes and chakra can get sage mode. So there is a difference and your making a fool of yourself.

The flaws with this one is overwhelming..

 

[shadowcb]

Nagato was able to absorb Naruto raw Senjutsu, but turned to stone due to no experience with Senjutsu and Sage Mode, although if Naruto force feed too much Senjutsu then yes I can see Sasuke turning to Frog. Although to be fair Madara used Limbo when Naruto was doing Lava RS.



Yes I pointed that out in the 1st post, Sasuke body able to handle Curse Mark and Sasuke being able to control Jugo Senjutsu.



I guess its true Sasuke would need training to feel Natural energy, otherwise he can't feel natural energy and absorb. Guess Sasuke still needs a master to learn. Sasuke should definitly get infected with Dragon Sage mode like Kabuto.



Hmm guess your right, I forgot Madara attempted to absorb Natual energy when Edo or alive, guess one needs training to absorb Natural energy. I guess that explains why Madara waited to absorb Hashirama Sage Mode.


So it seems Rinnengan or not if one isn't trained in feeling Natural energy it is impossible to feel and absorb Natural energy for Sage Mode, I guess Rinnengan allowed the ninja to steal someone Sage Mode and make it their own like Madara did but that is it. One needs knowledge about Sage Mode or experience to not turn to Statue.

The reason Madara was able to use sage mode had nothing to do with the rinnengan. It was becasue of the changes Kabuto made to his body. Remember Madara had Hashirama's face on his chest and when he activated sage mode the physical changes appeared on Hashirama's chest face not Madara's face -

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