u gotta take into account this was base naruto. everything he does in his other froms gets better. How about an senpou: odama rasengan (sage arts). I think when tsundae used that punch she had that special mode of her's own i dnt knw the name. Anyway i believe an odama rasengan can do more damage when its done in sage mode. It will be more effective if he used senpou odama chou rasen tarengan (sage arts: massive rasengan barrage). I think that will **** a susanno. Don,t let me get into BM or KM