Can Naruto beat Sasuke in a taijustu match?
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Azarath Metrion Zinthos
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Base Sasuke > Base Naruto
3T Sasuke > Base Naruto with clones
Naruto need his Kurama modes to fight Sasuke and now it's complicated. In durability they both peak up in their avatars - Kurama and PS, but before that, Naruto's durability comes from his modes, he gains speed, strength, durability and also keeps his normal size. Sasuke's durability comes from lesser versions of Susanoo, but he's sacrificing speed and mobility for strength and durability while also being a bigger target while in Susanoo.
OP's matchup is a bit unfair, since Naruto can go up to his strongest mode - RSM while Sasuke has only sharingan. Although Sasuke is an exception, because Uchiha's was never meant to be body power, yet he still achieved speed and strength comparable to Naruto in his strongest mode as we've seen in their fight vs Momoshiki and Kinshiki.
Still I don't think it would be enough if Naruto goes up to his strongest mode. There's a reason why Sasuke immediately used Ameno once he saw RSM. He could no longer outspeed and catch him offguard without S/T. There's a reason why Sasuke immediately activated Susanoo once he saw RSM. Fighting in CQC without his sword was really bad idea, and even chidori didn't work which is kind of bullshit btw because chidori spear is less focused lightning yet it sliced Madara with no problem, but much more focused chidori couldn't pierce Naruto. Could be that Sasuke was going full speed and dashed to Madara cuz actually that how chidori was meant to be used in early days - with high speed to increase the piercing power and against Naruto, Sasuke was standing still or it could be just literally plot armor of main character which Sasuke couldn't pierce through :bdpf: Anyways he still threw Naruto in his strongest mode to nearly half of the lake with his base strength, not Susanoo.
RSM boosts Naruto stats too much for a Sharingan alone to keep up. I'd say if Naruto uses RSM and Sasuke has to fight him in CQC, to make it even Sasuke would need lightning cloak and his sword infused with chidori.
3T Sasuke > Base Naruto with clones
Naruto need his Kurama modes to fight Sasuke and now it's complicated. In durability they both peak up in their avatars - Kurama and PS, but before that, Naruto's durability comes from his modes, he gains speed, strength, durability and also keeps his normal size. Sasuke's durability comes from lesser versions of Susanoo, but he's sacrificing speed and mobility for strength and durability while also being a bigger target while in Susanoo.
OP's matchup is a bit unfair, since Naruto can go up to his strongest mode - RSM while Sasuke has only sharingan. Although Sasuke is an exception, because Uchiha's was never meant to be body power, yet he still achieved speed and strength comparable to Naruto in his strongest mode as we've seen in their fight vs Momoshiki and Kinshiki.
Still I don't think it would be enough if Naruto goes up to his strongest mode. There's a reason why Sasuke immediately used Ameno once he saw RSM. He could no longer outspeed and catch him offguard without S/T. There's a reason why Sasuke immediately activated Susanoo once he saw RSM. Fighting in CQC without his sword was really bad idea, and even chidori didn't work which is kind of bullshit btw because chidori spear is less focused lightning yet it sliced Madara with no problem, but much more focused chidori couldn't pierce Naruto. Could be that Sasuke was going full speed and dashed to Madara cuz actually that how chidori was meant to be used in early days - with high speed to increase the piercing power and against Naruto, Sasuke was standing still or it could be just literally plot armor of main character which Sasuke couldn't pierce through :bdpf: Anyways he still threw Naruto in his strongest mode to nearly half of the lake with his base strength, not Susanoo.
RSM boosts Naruto stats too much for a Sharingan alone to keep up. I'd say if Naruto uses RSM and Sasuke has to fight him in CQC, to make it even Sasuke would need lightning cloak and his sword infused with chidori.
[Sub]And thus everybody gets sidelined with tangential comments. The crux of the matter is, within the parameters set by OP, Sasuke is getting railed by Naruto. I'm going to quote what I said earlier before it got drowned by the ensuing bullshit and take my leave. Y'all can have fun going in circles with pointless memes and gifs.[/Sub]
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Why did kaguya put him out of her present dimension? Obviously because he would blitz her sooner. Stop denying that. Kaguya never used RS against naruto because she didnt feel the effort to use it. Basically naruto was slow compared to sasuke speedwise.Again why couldn't sasuke land a single hit on kaguya? How come sakura hit kaguya before him?
Lie. Sasuke only attacked him once while he was in sage mode
Another lie. madara never said that once.
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So your lies led you to a conclusion that Madara was holding back and not taking hiim serious. but you cant even mention the fact Madara complimented Sasuke on his movements and blitzed naruto like nothing.
Madara fought other people after sage mode naruto and sai showed up to intercept. so madara ran away
So through all those lies you cant even mention a single truth. whose the real fanboy?
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Just reading the first pages, Sasuke fans stance are them explaining why Naruto loses outside of the parameters given by the op then stating that a taijutsu battle between the two could go either way in their peak forms.
In what universe is Sasuke beating someone who has a chakra cloak, a healing factor, and known as stamina/chakra tank?
In what universe is Sasuke beating someone who has a chakra cloak, a healing factor, and known as stamina/chakra tank?
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What manga you read? She tried numerous times, even tried to kill him because she couldn't take his chakra. You have no argument. Sasuke failed miserably against kaguya then lost to Naruto. Goodbye.
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Naruto without his parents dying for him= dead before the series starts.
Sasuke if Itachi didn't spare him=dead before the series starts.
You're using incredible logic.
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Haha yeah she thought sasuke was the greater threat and like Madara threw him out. Madara tried not to attack Sasuke because he was the real threat there. Same scenario. Facts ain't changing tho.What manga you read? She tried numerous times, even tried to kill him because she couldn't take his chakra. You have no argument. Sasuke failed miserably against kaguya then lost to Naruto. Goodbye.
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Fanboy fanfic = facts.
If anything you ignored the dissection which was given to your original claims and just repeated yourself.
Sometimes I wonder if people even read the manga.
Number 1 Naruto's chakra is 4 times Kakashi's if we go by Viz which is confirmed by kakashi.
Number 2. When it was = to Kakashi's in part 1 Kakashi said the root of it was the 9 tails. I will go over that some other time when I get a chance. It's only important in principle for now.
Number 3. A little of the 9 tails chakra which is around 100 times Naruto's = A lot of chakra conpared to humans.
You comeback with a scan which confirms Naruto received a little of the 9 tails chakra to mean he had naturally high reserves (4 times Kakashi's). Let's see what Naruto has to say about this.
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Naruto confirms he has plenty of his own chakra. Why? Because he's been getting all the 9 tails chakra that leaks out all of his life. The reason naruto has a lot of his own chakra is the 9 tails not because of Naruto. Therefore that "little 9 tails chakra" scan you brought is confimred to be a lot of chakra, without which Naruto would have average or below average reseves at best. Its confimred both throigh logical evaluation and Narutos own words.
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Azarath Metrion Zinthos
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Not only is that your assumption, it has nothing to do with the OP.Fanboy fanfic = facts.
If anything you ignored the dissection which was given to your original claims and just repeated yourself.
Sometimes I wonder if people even read the manga.
Number 1 Naruto's chakra is 4 times Kakashi's if we go by Viz which is confirmed by kakashi.
Number 2. When it was = to Kakashi's in part 1 Kakashi said the root of it was the 9 tails. I will go over that some other time when I get a chance. It's only important in principle for now.
Number 3. A little of the 9 tails chakra which is around 100 times Naruto's = A lot of chakra conpared to humans.
You comeback with a scan which confirms Naruto received a little of the 9 tails chakra to mean he had naturally high reserves (4 times Kakashi's). Let's see what Naruto has to say about this.
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Naruto confirms he has plenty of his own chakra. Why? Because he's been getting all the 9 tails chakra that leaks out all of his life. The reason naruto has a lot of his own chakra is the 9 tails not because of Naruto. Therefore that "little 9 tails chakra" scan you brought is confimred to be a lot of chakra, without which Naruto would have average or below average reseves at best. Its confimred both throigh logical evaluation and Narutos own words.
What are you even arguing here? In no way does this pertain to the taijutsu fight between Sasuke and Naruto or who wins.
Sasuke attacked Madara twice that chapter. Madara didn't attack Sasuke once, instead the attacked other. That means he wasn't taking Sasuke serious. He if was he would have attack Sasuke -
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He tells Sasuke it would be a pity to kill him and ask him to join his side -
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- That tells us why he doesn't want to attack Sasuke. Madara never blitz Naruto, Naruto arms block his attack. That means he reacted to him. Right before he attacked Naruto he was making a hand sign and gathering chakra. He didn't do that against Sasuke -
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Madara compliments Sasuke's eyes and tells us that's the reason his move so well -
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His logic is that without a predetermined plot point (Kurama) that Naruto would be dead before 300 chapters.
That same logic extends to any event in which Naruto or others could have or should have died without the interference of a outside force.
Sasuke would be dead without Itachi or Orochimaru sparing him
Naruto would be dead without his parents dying for him, Kurama or his father's seal.
Don't message me again.
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No it's not my own assumption and secondly I was responding to somebody so it's none of your concern.
Your right it's nothing to do with the topic at hand, or who wins. I advise everybody to get back to the topic at hand.
That's what he usually does no matter how flawed it is.
