[Discussion] Can Mihawk cut Kaidou?

[ssjelf]

What in the world are you talking about? First of all why are you bringing up hax, when I just mentioned that in my previous post?

And now for the most confusing part about your post.

Haki? Lmfao, you're talking as if Haki is some special thing.

Mihawk doesn't possess haki? He has the strongest slashes in the manga. If he cannot cut Kaido with the strongest attack power in the entire show, then..no..one..can.

Real simple. Stop going on about some WSS tangent. Mihawk could be weaker than Luffy overall for all I care, this specific strength of his, his attack power AKA cutting force is second to none.

Whether its second to none because of Haki + Attack power. Or whether it is second to none because of its attack power alone, the means are insignificant. The fact remains his offence is the most lethal and at the pinnacle of the One Piece elite.

It could be because of his sword for all I care. His sword could have eaten a DF. I simply don't care about "what" makes his cuts strong. They are strong, that is the only thing that matters.

And with this "strength" of his, if he can't damage Kaidou, nobody can.

While I think that mihawk can cut kaido, you are confusing WSS, with strongest offensive power in the world. Just because he has the strongest swordsmanship and the strongest slashes in the world, doesn't mean he is the most powerful offensive person in the manga. For one, hax will beat kaido, for two, WB has attacks that are not slashes and are incredibly destructive and might bypass whatever defense kaido has, even if mihawk cant. Another example would be akainu and aokiji, akainu might be able to melt though him like he did to jinbei and WB, and aokiji might be able to freeze him. Slashes aren't the only offensive ability and they certainly don't have to be the strongest.

 

[ToshiZO]

While I think that mihawk can cut kaido, you are confusing WSS, with strongest offensive power in the world. Just because he has the strongest swordsmanship and the strongest slashes in the world, doesn't mean he is the most powerful offensive person in the manga. For one, hax will beat kaido, for two, WB has attacks that are not slashes and are incredibly destructive and might bypass whatever defense kaido has, even if mihawk cant. Another example would be akainu and aokiji, akainu might be able to melt though him like he did to jinbei and WB, and aokiji might be able to freeze him. Slashes aren't the only offensive ability and they certainly don't have to be the strongest.

It really doesn't matter, me saying strongest offensive ability means it is in the same tier as the other strongest offensive abilities in the manga.

It is up there as the most lethal that's for sure.

Mihawk = Tier 1 Attack Power.

If he can't cut Kaido, then nobody on the same tier is doing damage to Kaido, especially when Mihawk's entire existence revolves around cutting power.

 

[ssjelf]

It really doesn't matter, me saying strongest offensive ability means it is in the same tier as the other strongest offensive abilities in the manga.

It is up there as the most lethal that's for sure.

Mihawk = Tier 1 Attack Power.

If he can't cut Kaido, then nobody on the same tier is doing damage to Kaido, especially when Mihawk's entire existence revolves around cutting power.

I think the point of kaidos defense is precisely to make it so that only certain things will be able to hurt him. Hax for one, and other less conventional styles of attacks that bypass sheer toughness. And most likely conquerors haki will have some role in it for luffy and shanks encounter. There are other ways that the other top tiers have at their disposal. That was my point that you ignored. You can't just say that mihawk's method not working rules out all other avenues besides hax.

 

[ToshiZO]

I think the point of kaidos defense is precisely to make it so that only certain things will be able to hurt him. Hax for one, and other less conventional styles of attacks that bypass sheer toughness. And most likely conquerors haki will have some role in it for luffy and shanks encounter. There are other ways that the other top tiers have at their disposal. That was my point that you ignored. You can't just say that mihawk's method not working rules out all other avenues besides hax.

I'll take the route that is most likely, everything else requires more assumptions.

Mihawk who has tier 1 attack power, the strongest cutting force in the manga, if he cannot manage to dent Kaido, hax aside, chances are high that nobody has an attack strong enough to do so.

 

[chopstickchakra]

What in the world are you talking about? First of all why are you bringing up hax, when I just mentioned that in my previous post?

Because that's how responses work, when you bring something up it gets replied to. Seriously arguing with you is like arguing ewith a schizophrenic, you bring something up then when I mention it you act like it has no place in the conversation. If it has no place then don't bring it up yourself.

And now for the most confusing part about your post.

Haki? Lmfao, you're talking as if Haki is some special thing.

It is that's why Oda created it as a literal special power that only some have. I'm not only talking about armament Haki though that's the big one since we know how it works the most. Just because he can't be cut doesn't mean a strong haki punch from an already strong person like Garp, Sengoku, other Yonkou, Admirals etc wouldn't cause blunt force damage. For some dumb reason you're still over here talking like the only way to damage someone is by cutting them.

Mihawk doesn't possess haki? He has the strongest slashes in the manga. If he cannot cut Kaido with the strongest attack power in the entire show, then..no..one..can.

When are you gonna understand and accept there's more than one way to hurt someone and just because Kaidou can't be cut doesn't mean he can't be hurt. You dotting out your words doesn't change anything, the manga said his skin couldn't be pierced therefore his skin can't be pierced until shown otherwise, regardless of the hypothetical situation.

Real simple. Stop going on about some WSS tangent. Mihawk could be weaker than Luffy overall for all I care, this specific strength of his, his attack power AKA cutting force is second to none.

You have a hard time reading, comprehending then responding huh? I didn't even use the term WSS in that post. I already said his cutting force is second to none. That doesn't mean there's not things unable to be cut by him. If Mihawk can't cut something then no one can I've never once argued that point, the manga said Kaidou can't be cut so we have no reason to disagree, the manga never said Mihawk can cut everyone and everything in existence within the OP world now did it, no so you're just attributing fanboy feats to him because of your over glorification of his WSS title. Since you brought it up again I'll reiterate, by your definition of WSS and Mihawk's skills he can cut any and everything he ever swings his sword against; if that were true then there would be no one able to beat him in 1 on 1 combat. Do you really truly believe that to be true?

Whether its second to none because of Haki + Attack power. Or whether it is second to none because of its attack power alone, the means are insignificant. The fact remains his offence is the most lethal and at the pinnacle of the One Piece elite.

No it isn't. He's one of the strongest yes but his offense is not the best in OP any Admiral or Yonkou would most likely win after a long long hard fight.

It could be because of his sword for all I care. His sword could have eaten a DF. I simply don't care about "what" makes his cuts strong. They are strong, that is the only thing that matters.

Nobody's even talking about why his strength is what it is why are you bringin this up, can you at least try to stay on topic so when I reply you don't freak out and ask why I'm talking about this, thanks. Mihawk's strength is irrelevant that's not what's being discussed, what's being discussed is why you think Mihawk can contradict the manga and cut someone the manga said wasn't able to be cut? I don't care why Mihawk is as strong as he is either and if you don't care then why'd you bring it up?

And with this "strength" of his, if he can't damage Kaidou, nobody can.

You understand what you're saying with this statement? "If Mihawk can't hurt him then no one can", that's you saying Mihawk is the strongest character in the entire series which isn't true. Just because Mihawk can't damage someone doesn't mean some other characters couldn't.

 

[chopstickchakra]

I think the point of kaidos defense is precisely to make it so that only certain things will be able to hurt him. Hax for one, and other less conventional styles of attacks that bypass sheer toughness. And most likely conquerors haki will have some role in it for luffy and shanks encounter. There are other ways that the other top tiers have at their disposal. That was my point that you ignored. You can't just say that mihawk's method not working rules out all other avenues besides hax.

Guy save yourself the time, the kid either is stubbornly ignoring all the counter points or he's really that deluded that he believes what he's saying that there's only one way to cause damage and if Mihawk can't hurt him no one can because mihawk is the strongest ever and there's nothing he can't cut.

 

[Olorin]

Yea peobably yes, Kaidou might be a beast but the whole "can't die", "captured lala times and torchered tralala times and ..." just look like a classic case of shonen battle pre-hyping that happens in every shonen battle ever, manga doesn't have the time to set each "bad guy" up over dozens of chapters so they hype the sh?? Out of them in a chapter or two, it pretty much never lives up

Kaidou will ofc be one of the top chara ters in OP but other top chafacters will be able to hurt him ofc, maybe his defense is gonna be insane but ofc they're gonna be able to urt him

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Learn to use words properly, senile has no relevance to the point your trying to make. Anyway, you said "whitebeard did a number on him, I'm sure Mihawk can cut him" as if those two things were related. By relating those two things you were saying WB damaged him Mihawk can too which is the same thing as equating their strength. What does weevil have to do with anything? No one mentioned him and that's the manga's logic. Whereas you comparing Mihawk to a young WB is something you made up.

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I'm not over complicating anything I'm bringing up counters to your points.

That's not true at all just because you can't cut someone doesn't mean they can't be hurt if you're really gonna be that stubborn to not accept a simple and clear fact like that then there's nothing left to say.

Nobody's arguing hes second to none now stay on topic, just because no one can out cut him doesn't mean there's things he can't cut himself.

Again there's other ways to damage him you keep acting like everyone has to cut him to kill him or hurt him. We've just seen BM's DF and she would be able to kill him. We haven't seen how he's effected by haki so strong haki users may be able to hurt or kill him.

You're just grasping at straws now bringing up yonkou and who might do what and you keep acting like your ideas for what might happen are the only possibility for what will happen so there's nothing left to discuss. You have no evidence to support Kaidou can even be cut or if Mihawk is the one capable of doing it. Swords aren't the only bladed weapons and since Mihawk was WSS while WB was alive Bisento users aren't considered in his discussion so Kaidou may be cut by a Bisento user.

This is completely ironic. So you use your little sense to come to the assumption that I was comparing Mihawk to white beard just because I mentioned them both? That is honestly stupid and your logic without proper understanding of the situation is also stupid.
Whitebeard doing a number on kaidou has no indication of gauging, it can mean a number of things. And instead of you to ask what did I mean specifically, you decided to take it upon your self to speculate rubbish.

White beard doing a number on kaidou means that kaidou is not impenetrable and that he's susceptible to damage no matter how big or small. And because whitebeard specifically damaged kaidou greatly, mihawk can capitalize on that wound to open up kaidou. Like that scar he has on his ribs.
That's what I was implying when I paraphrased my first comment. Don't come up with some garbage assumption and act like you know something.

 

[chopstickchakra]

This is completely ironic. So you use your little sense to come to the assumption that I was comparing Mihawk to white beard just because I mentioned them both? That is honestly stupid and your logic without proper understanding of the situation is also stupid.
Whitebeard doing a number on kaidou has no indication of gauging, it can mean a number of things. And instead of you to ask what did I mean specifically, you decided to take it upon your self to speculate rubbish.

White beard doing a number on kaidou means that kaidou is not impenetrable and that he's susceptible to damage no matter how big or small. And because whitebeard specifically damaged kaidou greatly, mihawk can capitalize on that wound to open up kaidou. Like that scar he has on his ribs.
That's what I was implying when I paraphrased my first comment. Don't come up with some garbage assumption and act like you know something.

You are so dense. You said WB hurt him Mihawk should be able to too, to everyone who reads English that statement implies Mihawk having comparable strength to WB and being capable of doing the same thing. Just because WB damaged him doesn't mean Mihawk could as well unless you are claiming Mihawk has equal strength to a younger WB(younger since the wound would have had to happen before MF obviously) I Now that the fallacy of that statement has been pointed out you're trying to backtrack and say that's not what you meant. If that's not what you meant then that's not what you should have said. So you can get as angry and hostile as you want little kid, all it shows is you were corrected and got embarrassed so you decided to try and insult me to embarrass me to balance things out but it's not working.


And for the record we don't know how that wound got there, if it was a cut a stab a puncture with a fist(like Akainu to Luffy and the scar happens to look just like Luffy's scar not like a typical cut scar btw). If WB is the only one(if he even made the scar) to be able to damage Kaido's skin and now you're saying you weren't saying Mihawk = WB, then why would Mihawk be able to damage Kaido when you need to be WB level to break his skin?

 

[ToshiZO]

Because that's how responses work, when you bring something up it gets replied to. Seriously arguing with you is like arguing ewith a schizophrenic, you bring something up then when I mention it you act like it has no place in the conversation. If it has no place then don't bring it up yourself.

Is this guy serious right now? Lmfao do I really have to waste time with this nonsense?

Me: "If Mihawk can't cut Kaidou no other Yonkou could touch him in battle without hax. "

You: "Again there's other ways to damage him you keep acting like everyone has to cut him to kill him or hurt him. We've just seen BM's DF and she would be able to kill him."

^That is not a counter to anything, when I literally excuse hax from the equation in my previous post and you bring it up in the next one, you are only talking to yourself.

It is that's why Oda created it as a literal special power that only some have. I'm not only talking about armament Haki though that's the big one since we know how it works the most. Just because he can't be cut doesn't mean a strong haki punch from an already strong person like Garp, Sengoku, other Yonkou, Admirals etc wouldn't cause blunt force damage. For some dumb reason you're still over here talking like the only way to damage someone is by cutting them.

Blunt force damage that's your excuse? Other than Garp and Sengoku no Admiral has shown something of that caliber to the point where a regular attack (their go to attacks) can't even give him an external injury but a shitty punch from them is supposed to damage him?

So what you're telling me is if Akainu shoves a magma fist in Kaido's face, Kaido recieves no damage, and please don't say some bs like his punches will cause blunt force damage. God bless Kizaru, he stands no chance.

Apparently the Admirals won't be able to ever damage Kaido.

If Blunt damage was the only way to hurt Kaidou, I'm pretty sure the man wouldn't have scars running all over his body.

You have a hard time reading, comprehending then responding huh? I didn't even use the term WSS in that post. I already said his cutting force is second to none. That doesn't mean there's not things unable to be cut by him. If Mihawk can't cut something then no one can I've never once argued that point, the manga said Kaidou can't be cut so we have no reason to disagree, the manga never said Mihawk can cut everyone and everything in existence within the OP world now did it, no so you're just attributing fanboy feats to him because of your over glorification of his WSS title.

"Swords aren't the only bladed weapons and since Mihawk was WSS while WB was alive Bisento users aren't considered in his discussion so Kaidou may be cut by a Bisento user."

^
Lmfao that statement was made by you buddy not me, it had absolutely nothing to do with anything, you started discussing the logic behind the WSS title, and even said it's possible WB cuts him.

I can clearly see the undertone in this argument, you are arguing against Mihawk the character, not that one category of his, especially when you bring up WB doing cutting damage but Mihawk not being able to your credibility goes down the trash.

No it isn't. He's one of the strongest yes but his offense is not the best in OP any Admiral or Yonkou would most likely win after a long long hard fight.

? See I can clearly see you have no idea wtf you are talking about. What in the world does Mihawk losing to an Admiral and Yonkou have to do with his attack power lmfao?

Did you not read what I said last post? He can be Luffy level for all I care, stop going off top

Nobody's even talking about why his strength is what it is why are you bringin this up, can you at least try to stay on topic so when I reply you don't freak out and ask why I'm talking about this, thanks. Mihawk's strength is irrelevant that's not what's being discussed, what's being discussed is why you think Mihawk can contradict the manga and cut someone the manga said wasn't able to be cut? I don't care why Mihawk is as strong as he is either and if you don't care then why'd you bring it up?

I'm going off topic? You the one who keeps talking about Mihawks overall prowess is telling me I'm going off topic talking about Mihawks attack power?

Smh, you brought up HAKI, I said I don't care about Haki because we know Mihawk has it and the only Haki we know is truly effective with strengthening an attack is Armament.

End of your haki discussion.

You understand what you're saying with this statement? "If Mihawk can't hurt him then no one can", that's you saying Mihawk is the strongest character in the entire series which isn't true. Just because Mihawk can't damage someone doesn't mean some other characters couldn't.

LMAO again, you keep talking about Mihawk as a whole, when we are talking about 1 category of his.

I can clearly tell by your arguments you aren't even in this, you are more worried about where Mihawk ranks in the power scale vs actually seeing what this topic is about: Attack Power.

And this is how I know:

Since you brought it up again I'll reiterate, by your definition of WSS and Mihawk's skills he can cut any and everything he ever swings his sword against; if that were true then there would be no one able to beat him in 1 on 1 combat. Do you really truly believe that to be true

Once again you are going off on a tangent about Mihawk overall.

Haha seriously wtf is this?
Wait, you believe if Mihawk can cut someone he automatically beats them in a 1v1 fight? LOL someone sig this please, this is the most nonsensical thing I've heard in a long time.

 

[ssjelf]

Is this guy serious right now? Lmfao do I really have to waste time with this nonsense?

Me: "If Mihawk can't cut Kaidou no other Yonkou could touch him in battle without hax. "

You: "Again there's other ways to damage him you keep acting like everyone has to cut him to kill him or hurt him. We've just seen BM's DF and she would be able to kill him."

^That is not a counter to anything, when I literally excuse hax from the equation in my previous post and you bring it up in the next one, you are only talking to yourself.



Blunt force damage that's your excuse? Other than Garp and Sengoku no Admiral has shown something of that caliber to the point where a regular attack (their go to attacks) can't even give him an external injury but a shitty punch from them is supposed to damage him?

So what you're telling me is if Akainu shoves a magma fist in Kaido's face, Kaido recieves no damage, and please don't say some bs like his punches will cause blunt force damage. God bless Kizaru, he stands no chance.

Apparently the Admirals won't be able to ever damage Kaido.

If Blunt damage was the only way to hurt Kaidou, I'm pretty sure the man wouldn't have scars running all over his body.



"Swords aren't the only bladed weapons and since Mihawk was WSS while WB was alive Bisento users aren't considered in his discussion so Kaidou may be cut by a Bisento user."

^
Lmfao that statement was made by you buddy not me, it had absolutely nothing to do with anything, you started discussing the logic behind the WSS title, and even said it's possible WB cuts him.

I can clearly see the undertone in this argument, you are arguing against Mihawk the character, not that one category of his, especially when you bring up WB doing cutting damage but Mihawk not being able to your credibility goes down the trash.



? See I can clearly see you have no idea wtf you are talking about. What in the world does Mihawk losing to an Admiral and Yonkou have to do with his attack power lmfao?

Did you not read what I said last post? He can be Luffy level for all I care, stop going off top





I'm going off topic? You the one who keeps talking about Mihawks overall prowess is telling me I'm going off topic talking about Mihawks attack power?

Smh, you brought up HAKI, I said I don't care about Haki because we know Mihawk has it and the only Haki we know is truly effective with strengthening an attack is Armament.

End of your haki discussion.



LMAO again, you keep talking about Mihawk as a whole, when we are talking about 1 category of his.

I can clearly tell by your arguments you aren't even in this, you are more worried about where Mihawk ranks in the power scale vs actually seeing what this topic is about: Attack Power.

And this is how I know:

Once again you are going off on a tangent about Mihawk overall.

Haha seriously wtf is this?
Wait, you believe if Mihawk can cut someone he automatically beats them in a 1v1 fight? LOL someone sig this please, this is the most nonsensical thing I've heard in a long time.

Your arguments are getting more and more silly tbh. How simple is it to say that mihawk cant cut someone but other top tiers have methods that do damage. pretty simple I would say. You just continuously have ignored that and think all damage types are the same in ability because they are in the same "tier of power". That is simply untrue. Just because mihawk cant cut someone DOES NOT mean a magma fist wouldnt do damage, or kizarus lasers couldnt pierce them, or aokiji couldnt freeze them or a gura punch wouldnt do damage. I'll say it again, top tiers have other methods at their disposal.

I do agree that mihawk can likely cut him, but your argument is flawed.

 

[ToshiZO]

Your arguments are getting more and more silly tbh. How simple is it to say that mihawk cant cut someone but other top tiers have methods that do damage. pretty simple I would say. You just continuously have ignored that and think all damage types are the same in ability because they are in the same "tier of power". That is simply untrue. Just because mihawk cant cut someone DOES NOT mean a magma fist wouldnt do damage, or kizarus lasers couldnt pierce them, or aokiji couldnt freeze them or a gura punch wouldnt do damage. I'll say it again, top tiers have other methods at their disposal.

I do agree that mihawk can likely cut him, but your argument is flawed.

Listen, we are talking about Mihawk cutting him, not slicing a limb off him, we're talking about so much as a nick on his skin.

Realize that. If Kaidou is so tough that Mihawk with his Haki + Attack Power cannot even produce so much as a scratch on his external body (even a paper cut), then it really doesn't matter what attack is thrown at him as long as said attack is on the same tier as Mihawks and is physical.

And I'm not talking about any internal damage, I'm talking about breaching his skin.

And you're talking about my argument being flawed, when the guy I was quoting apparently said WB's cutting attack might be able to breach Kaidou, despite it being of similar nature. The man is arguing against Mihawk overall, he doesn't even see this topic.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Listen, we are talking about Mihawk cutting him, not slicing a limb off him, we're talking about so much as a nick on his skin.

Realize that. If Kaidou is so tough that Mihawk with his Haki + Attack Power cannot even produce so much as a scratch on his external body (even a paper cut), then it really doesn't matter what attack is thrown at him as long as said attack is on the same tier as Mihawks and is physical.

And I'm not talking about any internal damage, I'm talking about breaching his skin.

And you're talking about my argument being flawed, when the guy I was quoting apparently said WB's cutting attack might be able to breach Kaidou, despite it being of similar nature. The man is arguing against Mihawk overall, he doesn't even see this topic.

I never said WB could cut him you said he did cut him even though we have no cnfirmation who that scar came from or how it got there. Then you said if WB could do it Mihawk could. Implying Mihawk = WB. That's what I challenged you on and you went into this whole ridiculous completely inaccurate argument of "if Mihawk can't cut him nobody can damage him because Mihawk has the strongest attack in the entire OP world." Even ssj sees how ludicrous your reasoning is on that matter is. The manga never maid mention of Kaido's skin against DF's so you bringing it up as an example is moot the manga did say every time an opponent tried to cut him stab him or hang him the sword, spear and chain broke. The manga's words literally say weapons are ineffective. That leaves DF abilities and haki+power to damage him. You refuse to accept that someone other than Mihawk will be able to hurt him, so I guess going by the logic you've presented so far it must have been Mihawk who damaged Kaido already.

Haha seriously wtf is this?
Wait, you believe if Mihawk can cut someone he automatically beats them in a 1v1 fight? LOL someone sig this please, this is the most nonsensical thing I've heard in a long time.

That's your opinion from everything you've said so far. If he can cut Kaido who has the best referenced body defense then no one in the manga would be able to defend against his slash. Add to that, you've said Mihawk is at the pinnacle of OP in terms of attack power that means he has the strongest attack in the manga that is unblockable by any character. That only equates to Mihawk beating everyone. Interesting you try and mock it and assign it as mine once you hear how ridiculous it sounds out loud. I'm not even sure Mihawk can cut Kaido so why would you assume I'd think he automatically wins just if he can cut someone. You didn't seem to understand that statement was an assessment of your statements so far.

 

[ToshiZO]

I never said WB could cut him you said he did cut him even though we have no cnfirmation who that scar came from or how it got there. Then you said if WB could do it Mihawk could. Implying Mihawk = WB. That's what I challenged you on and you went into this whole ridiculous completely inaccurate argument of "if Mihawk can't cut him nobody can damage him because Mihawk has the strongest attack in the entire OP world." Even ssj sees how ludicrous your reasoning is on that matter is. The manga never maid mention of Kaido's skin against DF's so you bringing it up as an example is moot the manga did say every time an opponent tried to cut him stab him or hang him the sword, spear and chain broke. The manga's words literally say weapons are ineffective. That leaves DF abilities and haki+power to damage him. You refuse to accept that someone other than Mihawk will be able to hurt him, so I guess going by the logic you've presented so far it must have been Mihawk who damaged Kaido already.



That's your opinion from everything you've said so far. If he can cut Kaido who has the best referenced body defense then no one in the manga would be able to defend against his slash. Add to that, you've said Mihawk is at the pinnacle of OP in terms of attack power that means he has the strongest attack in the manga that is unblockable by any character. That only equates to Mihawk beating everyone. Interesting you try and mock it and assign it as mine once you hear how ridiculous it sounds out loud. I'm not even sure Mihawk can cut Kaido so why would you assume I'd think he automatically wins just if he can cut someone. You didn't seem to understand that statement was an assessment of your statements so far.

1.Never said the WB point, must be confusing me with someone else.

2.Never even remotely hinted Mihawk's attacks are unblockable, and even if they were that doesn't guarantee victory.

You do realize Kaidou is not going to be blocking anything in this thread? It simply asks can Mihawk cut Kaidou, not can Mihawk cut Kaidou who is blocking.

You seem really confused about all of this (due to Mihawk being the one being discussed no doubt), and to top it off you are ranting about Mihawk and his WSS title, to the wrong person.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Comparing ordinary fodder blades to Yoru infused by Mihawk's Haki and backed by his power? Wew lad

 

[chopstickchakra]

Comparing ordinary fodder blades to Yoru infused by Mihawk's Haki and backed by his power? Wew lad

You guys keep saying fodder blades but you have nothing to verify the blades. Granted none are Yoru's level but it says he was captured by Marines and Yonko and was tortured thousands of times and sentenced to death 40 times but when they tried to hang him the chain broke when they tried to behead him the blade broke when they tried to stab him the spears broke. That's the Yonko as well as the marines. So Yonko or Yonko crew level weapons have went against him and were unable to get the job done.

He only has one scar we know of that doesn't resemble a cut at all and we know nothing of how it got there. All we do know is what the manga tells us and shows us and right now it's only told us about Kaidou and what it's said is the Marines(which include Shichibukai so they could have just called him in to execute Kaidou one time hmm?) and the Yonko that captured him, tortured him and sentenced him to death were unable to break his skin. Any way you guys feel about Mihawk and what he's capable of is irrelevant with nothing in the manga to support the opinion and counter what it said about Kaidou.


Also if them being unable to kill him was via a DF ability the marines sea stone would nullify it so we can assume it's either a form of magic protection not yet shown or explained or it's a natural durability.

 

[ssjelf]

Listen, we are talking about Mihawk cutting him, not slicing a limb off him, we're talking about so much as a nick on his skin.

Realize that. If Kaidou is so tough that Mihawk with his Haki + Attack Power cannot even produce so much as a scratch on his external body (even a paper cut), then it really doesn't matter what attack is thrown at him as long as said attack is on the same tier as Mihawks and is physical.

And I'm not talking about any internal damage, I'm talking about breaching his skin.

And you're talking about my argument being flawed, when the guy I was quoting apparently said WB's cutting attack might be able to breach Kaidou, despite it being of similar nature. The man is arguing against Mihawk overall, he doesn't even see this topic.

WB can infuse his besento with gura gura powers which might soften up kaidos durability. I dont think that just because a cut/slash cant break kaidos skin, that no other physical attack can. Perhaps not punches and kicks, but devil fruit abilities like logia powers.

Oda also said in a recent interview that he wasnt sure how luffy was gonna beat kaido but felt that haing luffy just hit him really hard would let the fans down (or something like that) that tells me that luffy has to beat kaido in some other manner than just pounding on him. The same might be for every other character in the manga and that might be just fine considering kaido's status. At his level, we can expect hax to be some of the only ways to win. What are the yonko and admirals if not hax?

 

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WB can infuse his besento with gura gura powers which might soften up kaidos durability. I dont think that just because a cut/slash cant break kaidos skin, that no other physical attack can. Perhaps not punches and kicks, but devil fruit abilities like logia powers.

Oda also said in a recent interview that he wasnt sure how luffy was gonna beat kaido but felt that haing luffy just hit him really hard would let the fans down (or something like that) that tells me that luffy has to beat kaido in some other manner than just pounding on him. The same might be for every other character in the manga and that might be just fine considering kaido's status. At his level, we can expect hax to be some of the only ways to win. What are the yonko and admirals if not hax?

That's exactly what I've been trying to convey to the guy, he's not hearing it.

 

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WB can infuse his besento with gura gura powers which might soften up kaidos durability. I dont think that just because a cut/slash cant break kaidos skin, that no other physical attack can. Perhaps not punches and kicks, but devil fruit abilities like logia powers.

Oda also said in a recent interview that he wasnt sure how luffy was gonna beat kaido but felt that haing luffy just hit him really hard would let the fans down (or something like that) that tells me that luffy has to beat kaido in some other manner than just pounding on him. The same might be for every other character in the manga and that might be just fine considering kaido's status. At his level, we can expect hax to be some of the only ways to win. What are the yonko and admirals if not hax?

To understand what I'm saying you have to understand what Mihawk not being able to cut Kaido means first. This isn't about Mihawk doing major damage to Kaido.

 

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To understand what I'm saying you have to understand what Mihawk not being able to cut Kaido means first. This isn't about Mihawk doing major damage to Kaido.

We know what it means no one is arguing that someone CAN cut him if Mihawk can't, now move on. The manga said his skin couldn't be broke, it's you who seems to not be understanding the words the author used. You understand when it said he was captured by Marines and sentenced to death right? You understand Mihawk as a shichibukai is a tool of the Marines right? If the Marines were unable to execute him and they had Mihawk in their arsenal the only reason for them not to order him to execute Kaidou is to suit your argument. Why would you think after the 2nd or 3rd or 20th failed execution they wouldn't keep ramping up the efforts? The Marines(which includes Mihawk via Shichibukai) and the Yonko were unable to execute him because their weapons weren't able to break his skin.

Unless you can come up with a logical retort to the Marines being unable to kill him after capturing him despite having Mihawk in their force then you have no real justification of why Mihawk can cut Kaidou, all you have is your feelings about what he should be capable of based on your appreciation of the character. And no, the Marines deciding not to use Mihawk(the man as you said has the pinnacle of offensive strikes in the manga) to execute a Yonkou they've failed multiple times at killing isn't a logical defense.