[Discussion] Can Marco+Luffy+Law+Zoro Beat Kaido?
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Rikudou Tobi
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That’s a good question and it depends on what level you put Luffy in. Luffy in the island has always been Yonko First Mate level but after this fight with Dogtooth he managed to edge that level.
Personally I think it take two elite Admirals to exetreme diff a yonko at the same time so I don’t know if Marco, Luffy, Law, and Zoro can deliver that same output.
Maybe yes?
Personally I think it take two elite Admirals to exetreme diff a yonko at the same time so I don’t know if Marco, Luffy, Law, and Zoro can deliver that same output.
Maybe yes?
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I don't think so. A large force is being formed for a reason. Minks-Samurai, Strawhats ( exclude marco as of last weeks chapter).
I wish the theories that the alliance will rescue Kid turns out true.
Also i wish that the Strawhat grand fleet also make appearance in a dire situation considering 2 yonkou, 1 countries forces and possibly marines (admirals & vice admirals) versus the straw hat alliance.
Oda says Wano is gonna make Marineford look like inferior, so all of this chaos in my mind would fulfill this hype.
I wish the theories that the alliance will rescue Kid turns out true.
Also i wish that the Strawhat grand fleet also make appearance in a dire situation considering 2 yonkou, 1 countries forces and possibly marines (admirals & vice admirals) versus the straw hat alliance.
Oda says Wano is gonna make Marineford look like inferior, so all of this chaos in my mind would fulfill this hype.
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No, Kaidou swatted Kidd like a fly. Big mom brushed of a Gear fourth attack without a scratch.
Law is also part of this Supernova trio and probably around the same level in strength. So I don't think he will have a lot more to offer. But I think his Devil Fruit is the best chance they have got.
Marco is probably the strongest fighter and is able to heal but compared to Whitebeard in the war even he was on a different level.
Zoro is not in the same ballpark as the other fighters at the moment, so I don't think he will be much help. And he also is a straight forward physical fighter, those are the attacks yonkou eat for breakfast,
At this point in time the only thing that can harm a yonkou is another yonkou. So my bet is that Kaidou and Big Mom will have a fall out and clash. Erupting a big war with the SH's stuck in the middle.
Law is also part of this Supernova trio and probably around the same level in strength. So I don't think he will have a lot more to offer. But I think his Devil Fruit is the best chance they have got.
Marco is probably the strongest fighter and is able to heal but compared to Whitebeard in the war even he was on a different level.
Zoro is not in the same ballpark as the other fighters at the moment, so I don't think he will be much help. And he also is a straight forward physical fighter, those are the attacks yonkou eat for breakfast,
At this point in time the only thing that can harm a yonkou is another yonkou. So my bet is that Kaidou and Big Mom will have a fall out and clash. Erupting a big war with the SH's stuck in the middle.
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If everything worked absolutely perfect maybe like use G4 Luffy to fastball special Law who uses Room teleporting and Mez and gets Kaidous heart before he can react then crushes it as soon as he gets it but that's out of character and assuming Kaidou wouldn't have good enough reaction time.
Realistically though I doubt they'd be able to win. If you threw in the entire SH's I actually do think it would make a difference especially after seeing them team up to take down the Oars zombie. Idk how big Kaido is exactly but Oars was 39m and 102t, that's still one of the biggest opponents they've faced. They still wouldn't win I don't think but they'd give a hell of a fight.
Realistically though I doubt they'd be able to win. If you threw in the entire SH's I actually do think it would make a difference especially after seeing them team up to take down the Oars zombie. Idk how big Kaido is exactly but Oars was 39m and 102t, that's still one of the biggest opponents they've faced. They still wouldn't win I don't think but they'd give a hell of a fight.
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Don’t they need that much people because the whole of Wano and the commanders are against the alliance?
I guess these people don't enderstand the shs are facing all of wano, kaido, his commanders, AND HIS 1000 ZOAN ARMY, of course they need an alliance lmfao , I honestly think it would be silly to assume those 4 can't take down kaido by himself
If big mom has the strongest crew , and luffy beat their top commander. Than I'm sure he can beat the other Yonkos top commanders, but that just depends on how serious you take aces novels, I take them serious as oda is the one to write them, but that doesn't make me right
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LOL!!!! yall kill me with this
The same zoro who cut down a TOWN SIZED pica?! lol that same zoro... In terms of destruction, zoro is the strongest. If luffy and zoro fought, chances are it would be a smooth tie. Also just because big mom tanked G4 dont mean kaido will
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Hypothetically, Luffy’s current power even with Marco, Minks and his grand fleet are not enough to defeat Kaidou. This situation is mind “annoying”.
- Marco isn’t coming to Wano
- Apparently non of Whitebeard Pirates either
- Gear 4th is a joke to Yonkou
- Kaidou will deliver a great war???
- Linlin and Kaidou wanna kill Luffy at the same time???
- Is Im-sama gonna order Marines to kill Luffy right now???
- Are the Admirals gonna take part in Wano???
- How Luffy gonna deal with all those great powers???
- WTF, Oda?????????
- The whereabouts of GOMU awakening???
- Marco isn’t coming to Wano
- Apparently non of Whitebeard Pirates either
- Gear 4th is a joke to Yonkou
- Kaidou will deliver a great war???
- Linlin and Kaidou wanna kill Luffy at the same time???
- Is Im-sama gonna order Marines to kill Luffy right now???
- Are the Admirals gonna take part in Wano???
- How Luffy gonna deal with all those great powers???
- WTF, Oda?????????
- The whereabouts of GOMU awakening???
Town sized ? If Pica was town sized how did he fit within the town ? That is because he was only made up out of the flower hill and the castle.
Cutting stone, mountain feat is cool but not impressive. Law did a bigger version at Punk Hazard. And Luffy's impact from King Kong Gun also had the same effect and that wasn't even direct hit.
You're making a fool of yourself if you believe that Zoro vs Luffy would end in a tie. In Gear 4th Luffy has superior speed. Luffy's haki makes him almost invulnerable from cutting attacks, a regular punch has the power to send Doffy across the town even while blocking. That is maybe something Zoro can rival when he uses a finishing move, but Luffy can rapid fire those. Luffy has the better mobility since he can fly at jet speed. Luffy has superior CoO that allows him to see the future a bit and Luffy has CoA.
So tie my ass.
Zoro is not in the same league as Luffy, he is 2 steps behind.
Just because Big Mom tanked G4th without effort doesn't mean that Kaidou will. But then again Big Mom wasn't the one being hyped being invulnerable and the only damage she took is when she fell to her knees and scraped it on the stones when she was crying over Caramel. That doesn't bode well for Kaidou.
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Big mom does NOT have the strongest crew. Shanks PROBABLY does but nobody can even prove that yet.
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You kinda phrasing the issue the wrong way. Why would Pica need to fit within something? He can walk over the whole town like stomping grass, but even then Pica's design is as ridiculous as Elizabello. Massive body with thin legs both of them. Pica's legs can go easily in streets. Besides, the whole atmosphere on island scale has turned into a war zone. Pica was clobbering here and there over a tiny human (Zoro). I gotta say that Pica is kinda really is a town size, but even then what makes a location, a place on Earth a town? There is no standard measure for a place and then to be called town. It can be small town or big town. Pica from shoulder to shoulder definitely quite a distance. More like 3 kilometers.
More like Zoro is 1 or 1.5 step behind Luffy, but whatever. Honestly, I fear Wano won't do Zoro justice to kill his boredom. The only one who will suffer the most of battles is quite Luffy. One more commander to fight as a warm up before his main opponent, Kaidou.Love Cook said:
Zoro would be more likely to be cursed fighting enemies who won't push his limits.
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