[Question] Can Lord Franky defeat part 1 Zoro

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But that video is not cannon doe so its irrelevant Lol.
OT: I think pre timeskip Zoro would beat current Fanky high diff.
Sure the plot may not be canon but I'm sure that was an accurate representation of Franky's strength. The M3 destroyed the pacifista's with ease, it was to the point where Sanji & Zoro were competing to see who wrecked the Pacifista the most. I'm sure that the mid-trio could probably take out Pacifista's (Brook/Franky/Robin) but not as easily as the M3 did.

OT: Post-TS Franky beats pre-TS Zoro with ease.
 

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Actually, the movie was anime only, and anime doesnt always go along with the manga, making it non canon sometimes.
Like when Zoro was cutting steel waaay back in the beginning before the Alabasta arc.
"There is a major continuity error in this episode, as Zoro is seen able to slice through steel, when he actually is not able to slice through steel until the Alabasta Arc."


And Oda oversaw the designs, not the storyline of the movie.

"◾Due to its nature similar to One Piece Film: Strong World, this film's canonicity was often subject of discussion. However, Eiichiro Oda himself and, later, Chapter 700 confirmed that it is not canon.◾ Oda himself said it was not canonical, so as not create problems for the fans who follow only the manga."

Yeah all nice and dandy, but if Oda oversees it and says if Franky takes down 5 Pacifista by himself that is reasonable. Let there be a 'cool factor' margin or maybe a 'non canon' margin of 4 pacifista. Let's say Franky only is able to take down 1. That is still more impressive than anything the enitire crew did pre skip.

If I would be repeating every post from the start of the thread that you're downplaying Franky or calling you a Franky hater, would you understand how stupid that would be ?
 

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Yeah all nice and dandy, but if Oda oversees it and says if Franky takes down 5 Pacifista by himself that is reasonable. Let there be a 'cool factor' margin or maybe a 'non canon' margin of 4 pacifista. Let's say Franky only is able to take down 1. That is still more impressive than anything the enitire crew did pre skip.

If I would be repeating every post from the start of the thread that you're downplaying Franky or calling you a Franky hater, would you understand how stupid that would be ?
Haha always the same man

First you say "Oda oversaw it so its canon" and now "its reasonable"?
I agree, Post TS Franky>Pre TS Zoro, but that 5 facifistas deal isn't canon, and no unless you're Oda himself, you can't be giving around a margin or a "cool factor" to characters. Lol seriously?
 

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Haha always the same man

First you say "Oda oversaw it so its canon" and now "its reasonable"?
I agree, Post TS Franky>Pre TS Zoro, but that 5 facifistas deal isn't canon, and no unless you're Oda himself, you can't be giving around a margin or a "cool factor" to characters. Lol seriously?
Why wouldn't it be possible? Pacifista's aren't big of a deal.
 

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Haha always the same man

First you say "Oda oversaw it so its canon" and now "its reasonable"?
I agree, Post TS Franky>Pre TS Zoro, but that 5 facifistas deal isn't canon, and no unless you're Oda himself, you can't be giving around a margin or a "cool factor" to characters. Lol seriously?
You don't get it, I still say that Oda approved that Franky can take down 5 by himself. Just for the sake of your nagging I make it so that let's say he only is able to take down just 1, that would still be better than what the entire crew did at sabaody.

It's funny how you try to blame you're reading disabilities on me. Even if the movie isn't canon, Oda said this was okay. And I'm not Oda but neither are you. The thing is that what I'm claiming is at least approved by Oda, and the only thing you can say is non-canon, but that doesn't matter at all.
 

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You don't get it, I still say that Oda approved that Franky can take down 5 by himself. Just for the sake of your nagging I make it so that let's say he only is able to take down just 1, that would still be better than what the entire crew did at sabaody.

It's funny how you try to blame you're reading disabilities on me. Even if the movie isn't canon, Oda said this was okay. And I'm not Oda but neither are you. The thing is that what I'm claiming is at least approved by Oda, and the only thing you can say is non-canon, but that doesn't matter at all.
Again, I'm not disagreeing with you, Post TS Franky>Pre TS Zoro. All I'm saying is the movie was not canon, as opposed to your original statement.

See this is your problem, even if anyone provides you with proof, you don't admit your mistake.
 

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Probably.

False ! Talking out of your ass again.

[video=youtube;H3ugw6YXYNE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3ugw6YXYNE[/video]

Franky without the shogun takes out 5 Pacifista.

The entire Mugiwara crew barely took out 1.

Post skip Franky would tear the entire pre-skip crew a new a-hole.
Are you blind? Franky used the shogun version to defet the pacifistas.
Not to mention that the crew met up with the pacifistas right after a big fight (Zoro almost died).
You're always the first one to insult people for stating false evidence but the biggest shit comes from your mouth.

When was franky honored with the title of Lord? He isn't even British :/
A manly fight with Senor Pink automatically gives you that title :p
 
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Are you blind? Franky used the shogun version to defet the pacifistas.
Not to mention that the crew met up with the pacifistas right after a big fight (Zoro almost died).
You're always the first one to insult people for stating false evidence but the biggest shit comes from your mouth.
Thank you and the funny thing is that he was completely out of subject. I never denied Franky can defeat Pacifistas. Even without that movie, it's easy to notice he can when he possess moves like his radical beam capable to tore apart metal doors Sanji couldn't break. I was talking about the difference in their durability(outside Shogun) which is unknown at this point due to lack of feats and in my opinion it will be a great factor in this fight.

People say Strawhats struggle with the Pacifista preskip, sure but that's an analysis you can come up with when you only look it from an outside perspective. When you actually take a closer look, you'll realise the real difficulty preskip Strawhats had with the Pacifista was finding a way to damage it. It wasn't particularly fast. If it wasn't for its durability, anyone from the monster trio could have defeated it with ease. Infact it's possible anyone below the monster trio could as well considering it was tagged by the likes of preskip Franky, Nami and co, probably due to its lack of intelligence though.

So Franky having the necessary fire power to destroy Pacifistas doesn't prove he can actually win against preskip Zoro. It just prove he has more fire power than him, but Franky isn't that fast himself, so he could be tagged by preskip Zoro's attacks. It's for that reason i pointed out on my first post that it would depend on Franky's durability. His shogun has greater durability feats than Pacifistas, but his own body besides proving resistance to Senor Pink constant sumo wrestling moves doesn't have much feats
 

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Are you blind? Franky used the shogun version to defet the pacifistas.
Not to mention that the crew met up with the pacifistas right after a big fight (Zoro almost died).
You're always the first one to insult people for stating false evidence but the biggest shit comes from your mouth.
Oh this will be so painful once you're actually going to watch the video.

If you would have done so you would have seen that there are 7 Pacifista and he punches down 2 with the Shogun. The remaining 5 are taken out by the radical beam.

The whole gag on fishman island was that the Shogun was a useless toy and that Franky every time had to come out to beat the enemy. Just like in this video.

He shoots the canons from his shoulders to keep them on distance and finishes it with a radical beam.

No please go get a big spoon and please, eat my shit some more. You seem to like it because this post of yours was like discussion suicide.
 

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Oh this will be so painful once you're actually going to watch the video.

If you would have done so you would have seen that there are 7 Pacifista and he punches down 2 with the Shogun. The remaining 5 are taken out by the radical beam.

The whole gag on fishman island was that the Shogun was a useless toy and that Franky every time had to come out to beat the enemy. Just like in this video.

He shoots the canons from his shoulders to keep them on distance and finishes it with a radical beam.

No please go get a big spoon and please, eat my shit some more. You seem to like it because this post of yours was like discussion suicide.
So apart from a completely idiotic piece of trash, you're blind too. That's good to know. Franky used the shogun to take out some of those pacifistas.
You bring up this video as incontrovertible evidence that Franky solos all the pacifistas without the shogun, yet he uses the shogun to take out some of them.
Inevitably, we eat your shit, since that's the only thing you're capable of producing.
 
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Hell to the yes.

Part 1 Zoro struggled big time against a Pacifista, given that he was injured. And in the end wound up getting 1 shotted by the big dog. But even if he wasn't, the result wouldn't have been much different, especially since Strawhat couldn't manage to destroy one.

Current Franky is equal to (off the top) 50 Pacifistas.

Zoro gets cooked.
 

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So apart from a completely idiotic piece of trash, you're blind too. That's good to know. Franky used the shogun to take out some of those pacifistas.
You bring up this video as incontrovertible evidence that Franky solos all the pacifistas without the shogun, yet he uses the shogun to take out some of them.
Inevitably, we eat your shit, since that's the only thing you're capable of producing.
I always said the number 5 throughout this thread, you can go check it. 5 is the number he took out without the Shogun, but at least 7 were seen and 2 were punched by the shogun.

I'm sorry for you that this forum does not have a braille font. The only thing worse than an idiot is a liar. And you are a big fat liar.
 
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