Can Kisame quite possibly defeat Itachi?

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I've always suggested this but I've been deemed idiotic but some for such a statement. He is quite powerful. Itachi is an overall better shinobi [in terms of feats and stats] than Kisame but Kisame is also formidable and can hold his ground against the Top 10 Shinobi.
 

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I've always suggested this but I've been deemed idiotic but some for such a statement. He is quite powerful. Itachi is an overall better shinobi [in terms of feats and stats] than Kisame but Kisame is also formidable and can hold his ground against the Top 10 Shinobi.

LOL, he can't do A sh!t against those :

Kabuto,Obito,Orochimaru,Hashirama,Madara,Sasori,Minato,Itachi,Naruto,Sasuke,Tobirama,Trollkage,Muu,Third Raikage,Bee,Ay,Jiraiya,Kakashi,Hiruzen.

all of those can rape him.
 

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Kisame himself stated Itachi is much superior to him.. possibly leagues....and he knows his arsenal, and Itachi's better than you and I will ever know...
 

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Those in bold I am nearly positive that Kisame can either win against 40-50% of the time, or win more often than not. And if that's your top ten list, it's pretty ugly. Like weak Senju. Like you.

LOL Orochimaru Summons Minato Hashirama Tobirama and Hiruzen and go to his home while Hashi gives him Shark Sushi, and it's not my top 10 I just put randoms that can rape Kisame, weak senju like u? u need to get A life u b!Tch gtfo there is A life outside.
 

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LOL Orochimaru Summons Minato Hashirama Tobirama and Hiruzen and go to his home while Hashi gives him Shark Sushi, and it's not my top 10 I just put randoms that can rape Kisame, weak senju like u? u need to get A life u b!Tch gtfo there is A life outside.

My social life is decent enough, I suppose. And the weak senju was a pum, but it appears you have a bad case of butt-hurt. Also, you include Edo Tensei? Lol. Jokes.

But I'm sure you'll say "It's his power!" Right? He can summon powerful shinobi incapable of dying and with chakra that is ever regenerating, that use their own move list and fight on their own unless specifically restricted.

But don't worry, It's all Orochimaru's power. Totally not top tier shinobi given steroids or something. And the Neg-rep was dandy, I would give one back but seriously, what's the point? Who cares about s reputation bar? It does and proves nothing.
 

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My social life is decent enough, I suppose. And the weak senju was a pum, but it appears you have a bad case of butt-hurt. Also, you include Edo Tensei? Lol. Jokes.

But I'm sure you'll say "It's his power!" Right? He can summon powerful shinobi incapable of dying and with chakra that is ever regenerating, that use their own move list and fight on their own unless specifically restricted.

But don't worry, It's all Orochimaru's power. Totally not top tier shinobi given steroids or something. And the Neg-rep was dandy, I would give one back but seriously, what's the point? Who cares about s reputation bar? It does and proves nothing.

Edo Tensei is his, if he wants he can make Minato Tobirama and Hiruzen his puppets, he can't make Hashirama now because he broke.
 

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Edo Tensei is his, if he wants he can make Minato Tobirama and Hiruzen his puppets, he can't make Hashirama now because he broke.

That hardly showcases his power. I judge Orochimaru and Kabuto on their power alone, not the summoned Edo Tensei. It's clearly not their own fighting prowess that would allow them to win that fight.
 

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It might seem odd. . But I was saying that his Susano'o combined with the ability to quickly determine and formulate plans would likely take down Kisame once the battle reaches the climax, when either Water Dome is out, Great Shark Missile is used, or another high end jutsu.

I agree with almost everything in your previous post, but I firmly believe if Itachi is caught in the WD, he is finished. I mean, what plausible counters does itachi even have for it? He either dies due to chakra drainage or lack of oxygen.

I've always suggested this but I've been deemed idiotic but some for such a statement. He is quite powerful. Itachi is an overall better shinobi [in terms of feats and stats] than Kisame but Kisame is also formidable and can hold his ground against the Top 10 Shinobi.

Completely agree. I'm not saying Kisame>Itachi, but simply he stands a chance of defeating him. Itachi is the better shinobi, no doubt.

Kisame himself stated Itachi is much superior to him.. possibly leagues....and he knows his arsenal, and Itachi's better than you and I will ever know...

I understand that, but if we analyze both their arsenal and feats shown in the manga thus far, you can't possibly believe Itachi is leagues above Kisame... Did I not counter his most formidable techniques in the OP?

Although what you say in the bold is the undeniable truth.

Those in bold I am nearly positive that Kisame can either win against 40-50% of the time, or win more often than not. And if that's your top ten list, it's pretty ugly. Like weak Senju. Like you.

I wouldn't even bother with him, tbh. He's either trolling or talking about a complete different manga
 

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That hardly showcases his power. I judge Orochimaru and Kabuto on their power alone, not the summoned Edo Tensei. It's clearly not their own fighting prowess that would allow them to win that fight.

So let's judge Nagato without his Animnal Path, let's judge Madara without his Kyuubi, let's judge Hashirama without his Shinsuusenju, let's judge Jiraiya/Naruo/Minato without there Toads, Let's judge Tsunade without Katsuyu.

Maybe we can judge Naruto without Kurama !
 

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So let's judge Nagato without his Animnal Path, let's judge Madara without his Kyuubi, let's judge Hashirama without his Shinsuusenju, let's judge Jiraiya/Naruo/Minato without there Toads, Let's judge Tsunade without Katsuyu.

Maybe we can judge Naruto without Kurama !

None of those techniques/transformations require preparation, impure summoning does.

That said, this discussion is fairly pointless.
 

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So let's judge Nagato without his Animnal Path, let's judge Madara without his Kyuubi, let's judge Hashirama without his Shinsuusenju, let's judge Jiraiya/Naruo/Minato without there Toads, Let's judge Tsunade without Katsuyu.

Maybe we can judge Naruto without Kurama !

You've taken what I've said to the extreme and you know it. There's a difference between a summoning, being jinchurikki, and literally summoning dead and powerful shinobi almost impossible to beat with regeneration. Both chakra wise and with their "bodies".

It doesn't show the power of the user behind Edo Tensei. It's THAT simple. And I think I'll take Forbidden's advice here and just disregard any further posts from you.
 

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None of those techniques/transformations require preparation, impure summoning does.

That said, this discussion is fairly pointless.

LOL it takes Kabuto to Edo Tensi Itachi Madara and Nagato just 2 minutes. than he can win anything, and u know put them in mindless state so Madara can't break, than he can just rape everyone, but for plot reasons it didn't happen.
 

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You've taken what I've said to the extreme and you know it. There's a difference between a summoning, being jinchurikki, and literally summoning dead and powerful shinobi almost impossible to beat with regeneration. Both chakra wise and with their "bodies".

It doesn't show the power of the user behind Edo Tensei. It's THAT simple. And I think I'll take Forbidden's advice here and just disregard any further posts from you.

Orochimaru defeated Hiruzen with Edo Tensei so it's legit, deal with it.
 

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LOL it takes Kabuto to Edo Tensi Itachi Madara and Nagato just 2 minutes. than he can win anything, and u know put them in mindless state so Madara can't break, than he can just rape everyone, but for plot reasons it didn't happen.

He had already prepared those summons.
 

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I agree he has a good chance of winning but I still think Itachi wins at least 2/3.
 
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