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It could, but rain couldn't have washed away the arm.
can jiraiya or minato be edo?
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It could, but rain couldn't have washed away the arm.
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I tried to rep you. Been spreading it around... I'll get it too you in time. You're too good..., lol.
Kabuto stated that Orochimaru attempted and failed to summon Minato against Hiruzen but failed because his soul is not in the impure world, but trapped in the belly of the Shinigami due his use of the DRS along with all the other preceding Hokage for the same reason, Hiruzen used DRS on 1st and 2nd.
Regarding Jiraiya, Kabuto stated that Jiraiya's body sunk to such depths of water that the pressure is too great to reach and get the requisite DNA. As for the scene of the fight where he fought Pain and lost his arm with blood all over the place, I guess it was sufficiently trashed and perhaps the rain was a factor, who knows. As well, who knows if Kabuto was telling the truth and nothing but to Tobi who demanded the secrets of Impure World Resurrection from him.
As for DNA and water:
The problem has to do with two main issues. The first has to do with concentration and dilution (you learn this from doing lab work in a molecular biology lab or a book I suppose, whichever comes first. Hell, I guess you could probably get it off TV these days, lol. ), even in a small amount of water (say a drop of blood in a cup of water) the DNA will become incredibly diluted and require careful processing to re-concentrate it to potentially isolate and get a complete sample. The key is density control, water, blood contents, and DNA have different densities, so you take advantage of that to try to isolate your sample and hope for the best. It doesn't always work even when you do the methods correctly. :shrug:
The second more subtle and more critical issue, which comes from knowing a little basic biochem is that it's the intra-DNA (i.e. bonding within) Hydrogen bonding that becomes susceptible to breaking the intra-DNA bonds and forming the hydrogen bond with outside H20 and/or other Hydrogen containing compounds that leaves the double helix "broken" for lack of a better word and susceptible to unraveling at these corresponding points. I believe that this is what Honord Sage was alluding to, albeit he didn't go into this detail, so I'm not sure but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. :shrug:
As well, there's increased oxidative damage, from free electrons as water (H20) is constantly in flux, interchanging between H20 <==>OH- + H+ whereby free electrons will damage the DNA but that's trivial compared to the issue with Hydrogen bonding I mentioned above as it happens in all of us every day as we age.
Further, there are other issues, but again, it's really the Hydrogen bonding that's the issue as far as damage is concerned, and dilution of the sample when talking about DNA from blood in water. Before anyone asks/comments..., no I didn't have to look any of this up, it's part of by basic education based on the classes I chose to take in high school/college a while back. If I chose to be a writer, then I probably wouldn't know jack**** about this, lol. xd
Of course, none of this exists in the Narutoverse, which is why I put it in spoilers, so Kabuto didn't have to deal with these issues, and Kishi likely doesn't even know about these issues nor does the average reader if polled.
), even in a small amount of water (say a drop of blood in a cup of water) the DNA will become incredibly diluted and require careful processing to re-concentrate it to potentially isolate and get a complete sample. The key is density control, water, blood contents, and DNA have different densities, so you take advantage of that to try to isolate your sample and hope for the best. It doesn't always work even when you do the methods correctly. :shrug:The second more subtle and more critical issue, which comes from knowing a little basic biochem is that it's the intra-DNA (i.e. bonding within) Hydrogen bonding that becomes susceptible to breaking the intra-DNA bonds and forming the hydrogen bond with outside H20 and/or other Hydrogen containing compounds that leaves the double helix "broken" for lack of a better word and susceptible to unraveling at these corresponding points. I believe that this is what Honord Sage was alluding to, albeit he didn't go into this detail, so I'm not sure but I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. :shrug:
As well, there's increased oxidative damage, from free electrons as water (H20) is constantly in flux, interchanging between H20 <==>OH- + H+ whereby free electrons will damage the DNA but that's trivial compared to the issue with Hydrogen bonding I mentioned above as it happens in all of us every day as we age.
Further, there are other issues, but again, it's really the Hydrogen bonding that's the issue as far as damage is concerned, and dilution of the sample when talking about DNA from blood in water. Before anyone asks/comments..., no I didn't have to look any of this up, it's part of by basic education based on the classes I chose to take in high school/college a while back. If I chose to be a writer, then I probably wouldn't know jack**** about this, lol. xd
Of course, none of this exists in the Narutoverse, which is why I put it in spoilers, so Kabuto didn't have to deal with these issues, and Kishi likely doesn't even know about these issues nor does the average reader if polled.
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Definitely not Minato. The whole Death Reaper Seal kinda prevents that. But if Kabuto was able to get ahold of Jiraiya's DNA, then yeah.