Can Itachi do this...?

who wins?

  • itachi

    Votes: 17 35.4%
  • ms obito with the kyuubi

    Votes: 31 64.6%

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lol chakra is not alive, if chakra was alive than Kabuto's muki tensei would not be such an OMG ability, any shinobi could just send their chakra into something and it would come alive. And also, it not only has to be alive, but it has to have a soul which is what yaata seals. Chakra does not have a soul, thus it is not sealable.
you don't have to have a soul to be alive, spirit and soul are actually different;)
totosuka seals, not yata . yata reflectsLol
 

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Databook never stated it can only seal things with a soul..it said it could seal anything that it pierces

We've seen in the manga, sealing isn't limited to souls in this manga
so totsuka seals dirt and air particles? I still say it's still a no limits statement backed by no feats.
I also looked at the databook entry on the previous page and it didn't say "can seal anything that it pierces" from what I saw it only talked about sealing a personal target.

you don't have to have a soul to be alive, spirit and soul are actually different;)
totosuka seals, not yata . yata reflectsLol
would that not support my point since even if chakra was alive it would not be sealed since it does not have a soul?

Also, does yaata even have the piercing feats to say it can pierce a bijuudaam?
 
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so totsuka seals dirt and air particles? Nah it's still a no limits statement backed by no feats.

Then why are you claiming the opposite to be true? that's a logical fallacy... the burden of proof would actually be on you to prove the statement false.. or prove it to be a hyperbole, considering it could just as easily be a feat..

Using fuinjutsu, minato sealed half of kurama's chakra

Weapons and other things have been SEALED in scrolls since the beginning of the manga..


Totsuka sword is said to be imbued with funjutsu...


so tell me why inanimate objects can't be sealed? tell me why that's a hyperbole? sounds like you just claiming everything stated in the databook as wrong untill proven otherwise
 

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Itachi would be so raped it wouldn't even be funny.
Obito walks into Susanoo
Phases through Amaterasu
Breaks Tsukuyomi
Warps Itachi inside his eyes
Kyubi can just take a nap.
 

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Then why are you claiming the opposite to be true? that's a logical fallacy... the burden of proof would actually be on you to prove the statement false.. or prove it to be a hyperbole, considering it could just as easily be a feat..

that's not true, I don't have any burden of proof do disprove no limits statements. Totsuka only gets the piercing and sealing feats it is known to have, it does not get the no limits version of its databook hyperbole until proven false.

Using fuinjutsu, minato sealed half of kurama's chakra

Weapons and other things have been SEALED in scrolls since the beginning of the manga..
by that logic, then it's possible for even a sealing scroll to seal a TBB unless I can prove otherwise. By that logic, Minato can also seal a TBB into someone unless I can prove otherwise.

Totsuka sword is said to be imbued with funjutsu...
sure, but I did not see it in the databook where it said it seals anything but personal beings.

so tell me why inanimate objects can't be sealed? tell me why that's a hyperbole? sounds like you just claiming everything stated in the databook as wrong untill proven otherwise
I'm not stating everything in the databook is wrong until proven otherwise, I'm saying all no-limits statements are proven wrong until stated otherwise. "everything" and "anything" are all no limits statements and thus need justification unless you think it's fair to take the no limits at face value until proven otherwise.

And even things in the databook like SM COR hollowing out a mountain or amaterasu burning as hot as the sun (which are not no limits statements) should not be taken at face value until manga feats suggest them to be true.
 

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Itachi would be so raped it wouldn't even be funny.
Obito walks into Susanoo
Phases through Amaterasu
Breaks Tsukuyomi
Warps Itachi inside his eyes
Kyubi can just take a nap.

Rightt, itachi makes 1 shadow clone.
That whole plan is ruined...
If obito warps one.. it means he can get attacked from in his dimension and outside.. meaning he's safe on no side

One amaterasu deals with the kyuubi, unless obito has some way of removing it from its skin
 

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You need to understand the difference between hyperbole's and explaining the mechanics of something... there were hyperboles in the yata mirror description eg- it saying that even a god's attacks are useless.. but tbb is still just a tbb, and has been tanked by simply madara's susano... Itachi not only also has a perfect sussano.. but has a shield of legend.. a shield noone not even black zetsu knows how it was created...

A spiritual item that can't be broken...






Yata mirror and totsuka sword aren't materialized chakra.. don't mistake them for sussanno..
They are made of some spiritualy liquid material that's currently unknown and can even make contact with the souls of people... it's not chakra whatsoever
lol if the hyperbole is for itachi then its not an hyperbole its a fact! lol. typical itachi fanboy response. ofcourse.

yata mirror in the base is very overrated, itachi fanboys even claim it can repel CT.lol

ITACHI DOESN'T HAVE PERFECT SUSANOO. where did you get that kid, read manga carefully, only madara has PS.

itachi will die trying to defend himself against 9 tails.. and kyuubi >>>>>>>>>>>>> hachibi, amaterasu alone won't stop it. hachibi after in flame of amaterasu for a couple of mins even finds a way to escape, this only means he can still think well while being burned by amaterasu.

obito can sneak at the back of itachi while itachi is busy against kyuubi and warp him in his dimension,leaving him hopeless for eternety.

obito with kyuubi >>>>>>>>> itachi
 

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that's not true, I don't have any burden of proof do disprove no limits statements. Totsuka only gets the piercing and sealing feats it is known to have, it does not get the no limits version of its databook hyperbole until proven false.


by that logic, then it's possible for even a sealing scroll to seal a TBB unless I can prove otherwise. By that logic, Minato can also seal a TBB into someone unless I can prove otherwise.


sure, but I did not see it in the databook where it said it seals anything but personal beings.


I'm not stating everything in the databook is wrong until proven otherwise, I'm saying all no-limits statements are proven wrong until stated otherwise. "everything" and "anything" are all no limits statements and thus need justification unless you think it's fair to take the no limits at face value until proven otherwise.

And even things in the databook like SM COR hollowing out a mountain or amaterasu burning as hot as the sun (which are not no limits statements) should not be taken at face value until manga feats suggest them to be true.


That's a bad example you're using, how would he seal a tbb when it's an incoming projectile?
He has SHOWN however that he can seal chakra into someone else.. he took his and his wife's chakra and sealed it into naruto.. so your argument that chakra can't be sealed is completely false

you seem to not get that the absence of evidence isn't the evidence of abscence.. those no limit statements aren't proven wrong, just as they haven't been proven correct.. you can't claim their incorrect nature as you don't have the evidence to support your claim.. just as I can't claim their correct nature due to the very same lack of evidence

What I am saying, is that it isn't really a no limit statement because it can seal other things.. Fuinjutsu on the WHOLE as ive said already, have been seen capable of sealing inanimate objects, souls AND chakra alike... so you CANNOT dispute this fact..... and by that very nature, totsuka sword , which is imbued with sealing jutsu, would be able to do the same as already portrayed in the manga


ITACHI DOESN'T HAVE PERFECT SUSANOO. where did you get that kid, read manga carefully, only madara has PS.

If you read the thread, you'd see I made a typo.. and i'm not going to argue with someone who can't form a logical argument and is spewing fallacies.
 

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Manga Fact- Kunai's, swords and other weapons have been sealed in scrolls
Databook says totsuka sword can do the same and seal them into the jar container

omg impossible, no limit fallacy ....
 

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The kyuubi shouldnt be used in this fight regardless, though if Obito were to use it Itachi could simply take control of it with his Sharingan, though when it comes fighting it would be close, Obito has kamui, but Itachi is an amazing Genjutsu user, you really dont know how good Obito does against it or if he can eve use it. So it would be a really close battle.
Obito controlled the muziakage for years, who was Jinchuriki, i believe that is done using genjutsu..that to me a feat much high than anything Itachi has done with Genjutsu
 

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Rightt, itachi makes 1 shadow clone.
That whole plan is ruined...
If obito warps one.. it means he can get attacked from in his dimension and outside.. meaning he's safe on no side

One amaterasu deals with the kyuubi, unless obito has some way of removing it from its skin

Itachi doesn't know about the eye thing silly. Or are you suggesting he reads minds now even though his opponent's genjutsu feats surpass his? o_O

Obito warps behind one(Susanoo is pointless as there will be space inside), uses Mokuton: Sashiki no jutsu, which could catch BM Naruto, to kill him at point blank, or kunai, or explosive notes, or katon jutsu. Itachi loses half his chakra if its a clone, or Itachi dies if its the original. Rinse and repeat if its the clone.



Or Separates one from the other using his Uchiha barrier. Then deals with the one inside the barrier before the one outside can break it. This way, while he's killing one, the other can't interfere.





To end it quick summon the Kyubi, let that distract Itachi then warp him when he gets the chance. The lazy way to go but whatever. Like when he's busy using Yata to block a Kyubi attack.

This battle is too easy U_U

Obito knows Amaterasu's prep. You forget that he can create a big ass barrier.
 
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Obito minimum difficulty, while Itachi is busy totsuka'ing kurama obito will just kamui his ass. All obito needs to win is a distraction, and you gave it to him :p
 

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Rightt, itachi makes 1 shadow clone.
That whole plan is ruined...
If obito warps one.. it means he can get attacked from in his dimension and outside.. meaning he's safe on no side

One amaterasu deals with the kyuubi, unless obito has some way of removing it from its skin
Don't doubt him he got amaterasu off himself so he just may the formula to counter it
 

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Itachi owns

Itachi will quickly figure he has to be atleast semi tangible to warp him
Then itachi has speed that is underrated but I see him doing what he did to sasuke;
Clash & use fastest shadow clone which will explode
Genjutsu the kyubi then seal it away or ameretsu
Obito cones back bam! Inazagi bam!! inazami obito retreats or stays to die
 

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That's a bad example you're using, how would he seal a tbb when it's an incoming projectile?
He has SHOWN however that he can seal chakra into someone else.. he took his and his wife's chakra and sealed it into naruto.. so your argument that chakra can't be sealed is completely false

you seem to not get that the absence of evidence isn't the evidence of abscence.. those no limit statements aren't proven wrong, just as they haven't been proven correct.. you can't claim their incorrect nature as you don't have the evidence to support your claim.. just as I can't claim their correct nature due to the very same lack of evidence

What I am saying, is that it isn't really a no limit statement because it can seal other things.. Fuinjutsu on the WHOLE as ive said already, have been seen capable of sealing inanimate objects, souls AND chakra alike... so you CANNOT dispute this fact..... and by that very nature, totsuka sword , which is imbued with sealing jutsu, would be able to do the same as already portrayed in the manga



If you read the thread, you'd see I made a typo.. and i'm not going to argue with someone who can't form a logical argument and is spewing fallacies.
there is a thing called edit button. no excuses pls.

totsuka seals it pierces in eternal genjutsu.

you can't genjutsu something without brain... with that said, I don't think genjutsu would work on you. lol

Itachi owns

Itachi will quickly figure he has to be atleast semi tangible to warp him
Then itachi has speed that is underrated but I see him doing what he did to sasuke;
Clash & use fastest shadow clone which will explode
Genjutsu the kyubi then seal it away or ameretsu
Obito cones back bam! Inazagi bam!! inazami obito retreats or stays to die

overrating itachi.

itachi with all his time with obito (itachi's mentor), never figured out how his kamui works. ironic isn't it.
 
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so if I show you exactly where the quote in which it says "Kakashi's arm becomes a famous blade that can cut through anything." Will you not only concede the argument, but also plus rep everyone in this thread, and leave Narutobase forever?

Are you willing to stake that on how sure you are that the quote I am mentioning does not exist?
I can see your bot serious and their is no such rubbish. You should leave and troll somewhere else
 
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