Can Indra Transmigrant Go From MS To Rinnegan?

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Was It Ever Stated That EMS has to be achieved before getting hagaromo chakra awaken for Rinngean.

if a MS user had hagaromo chakra would they MS still evolve to Rinnegan or you gotta have EMS first?
 

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I don't think EMS is essential.
 

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It was never stated that you need EMS but Madara went from MS to a Rinnegan after he wasted his EMS eyes on transcript Izanagi. Sasuke is the first user to go from EMS to a rinnegan.
 

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It's not needed. Madara awakened the Rinnegan in both of his eyes despite one of them being sacrificed for Izanagi.
 

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It was never stated EMS only exists for more power and well... You not getting blind

Yes they can
 

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it doesnt need to awake sharingan in the first place. As long as an user got both dna mixed will get rinnegan.
Sharingan is just a tool to see chakra in colour and that is why it can read the secret on the stone.
 

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It was never stated but the only person we really know of had MS and hashirama body parts was obito and his never evolved. But, he could use his MS indefinitely.
 

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It's not needed. Madara awakened the Rinnegan in both of his eyes despite one of them being sacrificed for Izanagi.

He put back his original eyes and then awakened his rinnegan then gave it to nagato as a kid. The EMS eyes were the impanted eyes from his brother.
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He put back his original eyes and then awakened his rinnegan then gave it to nagato as a kid. The EMS eyes were the impanted eyes from his brother.
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I know and that doesn't take away from my point.

Also, his original eyes could still refer to Izuna's eyes when we take into consideration how the Rinnegan are technically his, so they can be considered his own eyes as what he gave to Nagato was his Rinnegan.
 

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Yes they should be able to.

The rinnegan was the result of mixing Indra and Asura's chakra's. So i don't think EMS was really needed.
 

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Was It Ever Stated That EMS has to be achieved before getting hagaromo chakra awaken for Rinngean.

if a MS user had hagaromo chakra would they MS still evolve to Rinnegan or you gotta have EMS first?

Nowhere is it stated you Need EMS first, theres nothing special about EMS other than you don't suffer the side effects anymore.

Also its not Hagoromos Chakra that gives you Rinnegan, if that were the case Obito, Naruto, and Karachi would have had it as well.

In order to unlock Rinnegan you need to combine the chakras of Indras incarnate and Ashuras incarnate, then be near death.

The reason Sasuke has it is because Hashirama gave him his Chakra before he got stabbed by Madara, the only thing he received from Hagoromo was the Moon Seal.
 

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If they get ahold of some Ashura chakra combined with the Indra Chakra that the transmigrants already have you have awoken your Rinnegan. EMS is not a requirement for Rinnegan. As a person stated already, Madara sacrificed his right EMS eye to Transcipt Seal Izanagi, so he implanted his original MS eye in his socket and awoke Rinnegan from there.
 

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I know and that doesn't take away from my point.

Also, his original eyes could still refer to Izuna's eyes when we take into consideration how the Rinnegan are technically his, so they can be considered his own eyes as what he gave to Nagato was his Rinnegan.

The EMS never became the rinnegan is what I'm saying. Izuna's eyes is what Madara told Obito that were his spare eyes because he used his right eye for Izanagi. Old Madara in the cave only has his left eye like he did here.
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You can see it here that he kept Izuna's one good eye until death but the pair of eyes that became the rinnegan were given to Nagato. Those would be his MS eyes because he never over used them during battle, he just took them out and stored it for later.

EDIT: My bad, I didn't read what you said correctly. And I thought in the manga he referred to his (Izuna) eyes as spares but yeah they're technically his.

If they get ahold of some Ashura chakra combined with the Indra Chakra that the transmigrants already have you have awoken your Rinnegan. EMS is not a requirement for Rinnegan. As a person stated already, Madara sacrificed his right EMS eye to Transcipt Seal Izanagi, so he implanted his original MS eye in his socket and awoke Rinnegan from there.
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The reason Sasuke has it is because Hashirama gave him his Chakra before he got stabbed by Madara, the only thing he received from Hagoromo was the Moon Seal.

If that were the case that sasuke would of activated rinnegan in both eyes like madara did, Not a tomoed rinnegan in a single eye.

The EMS never became the rinnegan is what I'm saying. Izuna's eyes is what Madara told Obito that were his spare eyes because he used his right eye for Izanagi. Old Madara in the cave only has his left eye like he did here.
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You can see it here that he kept Izuna's one good eye until death but the pair of eyes that became the rinnegan were given to Nagato. Those would be his MS eyes because he never over used them during battle, he just took them out and stored it for later.

Where are you getting this from?.

When was is ever stated that the spares he had were izuna's?
 

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If that were the case that sasuke would of activated rinnegan in both eyes like madara did, Not a tomoed rinnegan in a single eye.



Where are you getting this from?.

When was is ever stated that the spares he had were izuna's?

It was well known considering the fact that those were the only eyes he ever mentioned to implanted. He also told Obito that he wouldn't mind stocking up on some more eyes meaning he didn't have any other. For him to have only three eyes in his possession means that one of his eyes must have went blind.
 

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No they would only have EMS feats without going blind like Indra and DMS Kakashi. To awaken the Rinnegan you need Ashura's chakra, Sasuke's the exception because he received Hagoromo's chakra which already contains Ashura's.
 

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Only through gettin ashuras chakra a indra transmigrant can get the rinnegN regardless of ms or 3 tomoe
 

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As others have said, Kabuto was wrong in assuming the Rinnegan was evolved from the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan. They are two completely different eye powers that have nothing to do with each other. The only requirement is to naturally have Hagoromo's chakra.
 
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