Can I have salt with my Salad?

[SenseiSama]

Drawing wise, it doesn't help Sarada as Kishi isn't illustrating the new manga.

From a characterization standpoint of faves- none of those characters had kids (Choji, Killer Bee, Deidara, Itachi, etc).

Choji has a kid who's friends with Sarada, Itachi has a niece who might full fill his wish of changing the Uchiha's reputation

 

[Nick01]

He said without Sasuke there would be no plot. He made Uchiha too important for the franchise to disregard.

To draw? Sure, not fav in general though.

Sasuke didn't save the Manga, it was rivalry.

 

[Chie]

Choji has a kid who's friends with Sarada, Itachi has a niece who might full fill his wish of changing the Uchiha's reputation

I meant none of them have kids in the main slots... ChoCho is a side character entirely.

That's not Itachi's wish. There's nothing to change at this point and an Uchiha Hokage without the clan existing is pretty pointless. It would have been more helpful when they were you know... alive?

 

[Claymantan]

To draw? Sure, not fav in general though.

Sasuke didn't save the Manga, it was rivalry.

Sasuke saved the manga

No other character could have had enough of a motivation to drive the plot, rivalry be damned. Sasuke deciding to leave and join Orochimaru is the driving force for everything after Shukaku. That's like Chapter 130/140ish.

 

[Avani]

Drawing wise, it doesn't help Sarada as Kishi isn't illustrating the new manga.

From a characterization standpoint of faves- none of those characters had kids (Choji, Killer Bee, Deidara, Itachi, etc).

Choji?

 

[Chie]

Choji?

He had ChoCho, but I meant having a child that is a main character. xD

 

[Avani]

I meant none of them have kids in the main slots... ChoCho is a side character entirely.

That's not Itachi's wish. There's nothing to change at this point and an Uchiha Hokage without the clan existing is pretty pointless. It would have been more helpful when they were you know... alive?

Still ChoCho got more focus than his father so far.
It was nice that the friends these kids were making were not exactly the same as their parents so people may get some other combos in future.

We will have to wait and see how the actual next gen manga will go once it starts. So far Kishi is playing it safe besides establishing some backgrounds that needed a detail or fans were refusing to believe(- I can't help but feel that Sarada's story was a leg pulling by Kishi for the fans who kept hitting his staff on internet to argue who her mother was. )and leaving it for the next writer to take it up more freely.

He had ChoCho, but I meant having a child that is a main character. xD

If Chocho becomes the next gen star while likes of Baruto, Sarada and Mitsuki are left behind, fans will go crazier. How would you even do that without making them all relatively mediocre and failures or unimportant when they already have fanbases?

 

[Chie]

Still ChoCho got more focus than his father so far.
It was nice that the friends these kids were making were not exactly the same as their parents so people may get some other combos in future.

We will have to wait and see how the actual next gen manga will go once it starts. So far Kishi is playing it safe besides establishing some backgrounds that needed a detail or fans were refusing to believe(- I can't help but feel that Sarada's story was a leg pulling by Kishi for the fans who kept hitting his staff on internet to argue who her mother was. )and leaving it for the next writer to take it up more freely.

True. Newer character dynamics are always welcome. Especially when fans tend to complain about parallels.

I think Ikemoto will follow through with Kishimoto's writing style in the new manga as he's been with him for years as an assistant. And yes, Sarada's Gaiden was there just to reconfirm that Sakura/Sasuke were the parents... probably due to all the "Karin is the mom" jokes.

 

[Claymantan]

If Chocho becomes the next gen star while likes of Baruto, Sarada and Mitsuki are left behind, fans will go crazier. How would you even do that without making them all relatively mediocre and failures or unimportant when they already have fanbases?

I forget Asuma's son's name, but I think that if he became the main character, and like, the singular main character, fans would have been intrigued.

I think playing it safe and continuing the main genetic line was a mistake. They should have gone for a swerve. Either way I'm hoping that Asuma's kid gets to be a darkhorse.

And yes, Sarada's Gaiden was there just to reconfirm that Sakura/Sasuke were the parents... probably due to all the "Karin is the mom" jokes.

10 ****ing chapters...

 

[Chie]

If Chocho becomes the next gen star while likes of Baruto, Sarada and Mitsuki are left behind, fans will go crazier. How would you even do that without making them all relatively mediocre and failures or unimportant when they already have fanbases?

It's not possible.

I just mentioned Choji in the list initially since SenseiSama was saying it is guaranteed that Sarada will take the spotlight as she's the daughter of a fave character... but Choji is a fave character too. So, that alone (Kishimoto's favoritism towards the child character's parent) is not enough to guarantee anything.

10 ****ing chapters...

At least Karin fans can now be assured that it's not her baby. :sdo:

I don't think Mirai (Asuma's daughter) is showing up anytime soon.

 

[Claymantan]

I don't think Mirai (Asuma's daughter) is showing up anytime soon.

This man's appearance in Chapter 700 was him praying to his dead father (Asuma) who was himself an ensemble darkhorse who taught the biggest ensemble darkhorse in the manga (Shikamaru)

Instantly likeable!

Why can't I have the things I want

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

I dunno, judging from her skimpy outfit in the preview with her tongue sticking out portends how this new artist intends to portray her.

 

[Chie]

This man's appearance in Chapter 700 was him praying to his dead father (Asuma) who was himself an ensemble darkhorse who taught the biggest ensemble darkhorse in the manga (Shikamaru)

Instantly likeable!

Why can't I have the things I want

*woman's.

Mirai is a girl. Asuma/Kurenai had a daughter.

And yes, that was great. She paid her respects to her father.

 

[Claymantan]

*woman's.

Mirai is a girl. Asuma/Kurenai had a daughter.

And yes, that was great. She paid her respects to her father.

Agh what the hell is wrong with me

I can't tell any character's gender anymore

Whatever, my point stands...maybe...I have to be concerned about what Kishi would do with her. But I would rather take that risk than have more of the same format :'(

 

[Avani]

It's not possible.

I just mentioned Choji in the list initially since SenseiSama was saying it is guaranteed that Sarada will take the spotlight as she's the daughter of a fave character... but Choji is a fave character too. So, that alone (Kishimoto's favoritism towards the child character's parent) is not enough to guarantee anything.


At least Karin fans can now be assured that it's not her baby. :sdo:

I don't think Mirai (Asuma's daughter) is showing up anytime soon.

Hmm Did Kishimoto name any character as his favourite character twice in all 15+ years?

 

[Chie]

Agh what the hell is wrong with me

I can't tell any character's gender anymore

Whatever, my point stands...maybe...I have to be concerned about what Kishi would do with her. But I would rather take that risk than have more of the same format :'(

At worst, he'd neglect her character. At best, she'd have a fair amount of screentime for a side character.

In the short amount she had for her introduction- Kishimoto did pretty well. I don't think you have anything to worry about with Asuma's kid.

Hmm Did Kishimoto name any character as his favourite character twice in all 15+ years?

No, he's pretty much changed it every interview when the question comes up.

I don't think he legitimately has a fave, he probably just mentions whichever character he's giving screen time to at that point in the series to please the fans. He probably likes all of them almost the same.

 

[Avani]

I forget Asuma's son's name, but I think that if he became the main character, and like, the singular main character, fans would have been intrigued.

I think playing it safe and continuing the main genetic line was a mistake. They should have gone for a swerve. Either way I'm hoping that Asuma's kid gets to be a darkhorse.



10 ****ing chapters...

It's a girl- it's a shonen manga where a girl is never going to lead- She is to be there but one step behind. If she does do something in one chapter or some specific arc, sooner or later she would need major saving by the male lead to keep the ego of the target audience intact.

And isn't it titled Boruto?

And yeah- 10 chapters -Kishi's idea to get even with his crazy fan base attack over Sarada's parentage. U_U

 

[Claymantan]

At worst, he'd neglect her character. At best, she'd have a fair amount of screentime for a side character.

In the short amount she had for her introduction- Kishimoto did pretty well. I don't think you have anything to worry about with Asuma's kid.

Sure, but my original point was that I would have liked it if they had gone a new route with the continuation of the manga in the new generation and had a singular titular character. I feel like Mirai left a positive impact with fans and would have been a good way for the writers to explore new themes beyond this balance in Yin and Yang stuff. Plus, Mirai is a Sarutobi, so if Kishi wanted her to go the Hokage route, or if the new writer did, they'd have that option.

But I realize that the manga is written primarily for the purposes of marketing, so continuing the most popular cast members' generation plus adding in an obligatory mysterious character (who is admittedly intriguing, I underplayed how interesting Mitsuki is in comparison to what we've had in this entire series before) was always the way it was probably going to go. It's just unfortunate, is all.

It's a girl- it's a shonen manga where a girl is never going to lead- She is to be there but one step behind. If she does do something in one chapter or some specific arc, sooner or later she would need major saving by the male lead to keep the ego of the target audience intact.

And isn't it titled Boruto?

And yeah- 10 chapters -Kishi's idea to get even with his crazy fan base attack over Sarada's parentage. U_U

Okay, I accept that my ideal world is fanfic. XD

That said, I don't think that a female character would be dude repellent or whatever. Female characters do super well in Japan in other forms of media, so why not in shounen? These writers need to stop being so formulaic and just go for it. Hell, characters the fanbase in the West doesn't like who didn't really get anywhere near the development of the male cast are still popular in the East.

They could have just renamed the manga Sarutobi. :yeah: Get some play off of the classic Journey to the West or whatever, if they need to stay traditional.

 

[SenseiSama]

Itachi solos, therefore Sarada solos.

 

[wanderingcactus]

I dunno, judging from her skimpy outfit in the preview with her tongue sticking out portends how this new artist intends to portray her.

God I hope she doesnt become a bimbo...

Wait id rather take a bimbo than a fodder..

this is like dating a sorority all over again.