[Question] Can current luffy , zoro and sanji take on the 3 admirals?

[Going up on a Tuesday]

Luffy alone is enough to give admiral high diff. Point of Luffy's training is to get him to the level that he could stand and fight with an admiral.

"Do you want that to happen again" [

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] and picture in background is SH vs Marines (with Admiral). In other words Silvers' trained Luffy to the point that he with his crew will put pretty good fight to Admiral + pretty strong company. No way that one admiral will solo M3, let alone whole crew.

Oh wow don't tell me you're using Gohara excuse, Ray said that Luffy learnt the basics of haki he isn't pushing a Admiral for shit.

 

[Zorø]

It would take an Admiral to mid diff all 3 of them.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Then why did you say Luffy can high-diff. an admiral?

I'm not saying that he can high diff an admiral, but that he can give pretty good fight to an admiral, and maybe even tie with out.

Sabo can't even give an admiral high diff let alone Luffy. Also just because give an admiral a challenge was the point of his training doesn't mean that he can actually give an admiral a challenge. It's like a boxer getting trained specifically to fight someone and give them a challenged. This doesn't mean that that boxer still won't get KO'ed in the first round even though he trained to give his opponent a challenge.

Also where was it stated that the purpose of the training was to get him at a level that he can challenge admirals? If I remember correctly Rayliegh was only willing to teach Luffy the Basics of Haki. Luffy had to figure the rest out on his own.

So you're saying someone with basic haki training and 6 months of self training is suddenly able to give an admiral high diff? when people who has better haki (Marco, Sabo) can't put up a high diff fight against an admiral.

How do you know that Sabo can't give high diff to an admiral? Most of Sabo vs Fuji fight was off panel'd. Hm, experienced man like Silvers shouldn't make such mistake and that would be pretty big one if Luffy would be far from admiral's level. Also, it's not only about stataments but also about portraying. After Luffy/Law defeat Mingo, they will fight Kaido or Big Mom, if they are not already close to admiral level, than they don't even has chance against an Yonko. In order to beat a Yonko, IMO both Luffy and Law will need to be admiral levels, if they are as you say weak enough to be soloed by just 1 admiral, than Law was dead wrong with his calculation that they has 30% of beating Kaido.

I posted a page. It's from chapter 591, and Silvers' said "Do you want that to happen again?" in the background it's SH vs Kizaru and co. So to what Silvers' refer?

Marco fought equal with an admiral and we never saw Sabo vs Fujitora to full extent.

Oh wow don't tell me you're using Gohara excuse, Ray said that Luffy learnt the basics of haki he isn't pushing a Admiral for shit.

Interesting name you have there, Going up on a Tuesday

You know Gohara? That's not excuse, it's present in the manga.

 

[Hexuze]

I'm not saying that he can high diff an admiral, but that he can give pretty good fight to an admiral, and maybe even tie with out.

Really...?

Luffy alone is enough to give admiral high diff.

 

[Bogard]

I think the 3 could push an admiral to high difficulty, but would lose in the end. Adding 2 other admirals makes it a rape though

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Really...?

Correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't "Then why did you say Luffy can high-diff. an admiral?" mean that Luffy in the end will win with high diff?

What I said in "Luffy alone is enough to give admiral high diff.", is that Luffy will lose against an admiral with high diff.

 

[Bogard]

I think Rayleigh training was more considering Luffy's capability to survive if he were to clash against an admiral and by surviving i mean having the necessary capacities to not getting straight up owned by one and managing to escape if they were in danger. 2 years before, he couldn't have done that.

Besides, don't forget as well that Rayleigh likely took into considering the crew's growth rate as well in the survival capacity. In 2 years, he likely figured out, it would also be the best for the crew. Doesn't mean however that he was totally confident Luffy could handle an admiral in a fight. If it was the case, he'd not have been worried when marines were chasing Luffy in Shabondy. He even said he came as a prevention before noticing Luffy refined his skills enough to handle things on his own, implying he didn't think he could manage

It's interesting Going up on Tuesday knows Gohara though

 

[OG sama]

Akainu still beats Luffy no diff. Sanji and Zoro also lose no diff.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

I think Rayleigh training was more considering Luffy's capability to survive if he were to clash against an admiral and by surviving i mean having the necessary capacities to not getting straight up owned by one and managing to escape if they were in danger. 2 years before, he couldn't have done that.

Besides, don't forget as well that Rayleigh likely took into considering the crew's growth rate as well in the survival capacity. In 2 years, he likely figured out, it would also be the best for the crew. Doesn't mean however that he was totally confident Luffy could handle an admiral in a fight. If it was the case, he'd not have been worried when marines were chasing Luffy in Shabondy. He even said he came as a prevention before noticing Luffy refined his skills enough to handle things on his own, implying he didn't think he could manage

It's interesting Going up on Tuesday knows Gohara though

There is also the point that Silvers' was confident in Luffy's strength to left him a half of year before 2 years. Which mean that Luffy hit level he wanted even earlier than his calculations.

I'm well aware that he took other SHs as well, but when he referred to Luffy in chapter 591, I think he referred to not just one admiral, but to Admiral with his comrades.

 

[Bogard]

There is also the point that Silvers' was confident in Luffy's strength to left him a half of year before 2 years. Which mean that Luffy hit level he wanted even earlier than his calculations.

I'm well aware that he took other SHs as well, but when he referred to Luffy in chapter 591, I think he referred to not just one admiral, but to Admiral with his comrades.

How do you know how confident he was? For all we know he left because something unexpected happened. Again, Rayleigh was worried when the marines came until he realised he refined his skills enough to handle the situation. It says everything

 

[shon93]

An admiral would beat the monster trio low diff

 

[Forbidden Tale]

How do you know how confident he was? For all we know he left because something unexpected happened. Again, Rayleigh was worried when the marines came until he realised he refined his skills enough to handle the situation. It says everything

Yes, he didn't expected Luffy to reach that level of power that soon. That was unexpected.

Jokes aside, what unexpected could happen? Silvers during Return to Sabaody Arc was showed sitting at the bar. Person who left for something unexpected wouldn't sitting in the bar.

There were no admiral in marines that attacked SH at that time. Silvers done just since there is no need to fight with them. I would agree with you if Kizaru or Fujitora were with these marines, but as long as I remember they weren't.

Off topic: Can't really understand these guys that dislike posts, because of different opinion.... :|

 

[Olorin]

An admiral would beat the monster trio low diff

I really hope that's not true, we don't even have hype to compare the m3o (to more or less anyone) atm, at least characters like Roger or Dragon have hype and you can sort of make a hierarchy based on hype, atm it's impossible to fit the m3o in there though

But tbh now, after the 2 years, if it turns out they don't at least put up a fight in a 3v1 with an Admiral, honestly, I'll be disappointed

 

[Hexuze]

I really hope that's not true, we don't even have hype to compare the m3o (to more or less anyone) atm, at least characters like Roger or Dragon have hype and you can sort of make a hierarchy based on hype, atm it's impossible to fit the m3o in there though

But tbh now, after the 2 years, if it turns out they don't at least put up a fight in a 3v1 with an Admiral, honestly, I'll be disappointed

From what we've seen it does seem that way. It's hard to say that the M3 would push an admiral to beat them mid-diff. because Sabo couldn't even get Fujitora to be serious and he was struggling. Imagine if he was serious? I know Sabo isn't stronger than the M3 as a whole but I doubt it'd be that different either. Maybe in 2-3 arcs they can push an admiral to mid-high diff. or our opinions can change if we see Luffy show off a new technique during the fight with Doffy.

 

[Bogard]

-> We know an admiral was more or less 100 times stronger than a M3 fighter preskip
-> We know an admiral is more or less 10 times stronger than a M3 level fighter postskip(individually)
-> When you multiply by 3 the amount of opponents, it would mean an admiral is roughly 3times stronger than them

Assuming the tag team makes the team stronger, it would mean an admiral could at most be 2times stronger than the entire team. Which makes the difficulty it would take an admiral to defeat the trio range from mid to high difficulty

At least, it's how i see it

 

[shon93]

I really hope that's not true, we don't even have hype to compare the m3o (to more or less anyone) atm, at least characters like Roger or Dragon have hype and you can sort of make a hierarchy based on hype, atm it's impossible to fit the m3o in there though

But tbh now, after the 2 years, if it turns out they don't at least put up a fight in a 3v1 with an Admiral, honestly, I'll be disappointed

You have to remember an admiral is the pinnacle of the navy's strength they are basically war machines. It shouldn't be logical to be able to fight an admiral after only 2 years of Haki training...and these guys have 20+ year of fighting experience

I would be disappointed too bit we have to be logical bro

 

[ChrisWolf]

I don't know when you think about it logically luffy not having haki is what made it impossible and ridiculous to imagine before but now that he has haki plus the increase in strength I think its very likely.

zoro can't take fujitora yet he's just missing something still.

Kizaru is still waaaay too fast for sanji and plus he has long distance attacks so no way can sanji win.

 

[Anduril]

I think they can hold them off now, but defeat them is a NO.

I'd say Luffy and Zoro will get mid diff'd by admirals. While Sanji will be Low diff'd.

Also if his motive is really strong, then Luffy might take the fight to High diff.

 

[Hexuze]

I think they can hold them off now, but defeat them is a NO.

I'd say Luffy and Zoro will get mid diff'd by admirals. While Sanji will be Low diff'd.

Also if his motive is really strong, then Luffy might take the fight to High diff.

Sabo got low-diff'd pretty much by Fujitora so I doubt Luffy/Zoro can individually mid-diff. one. IMO Fujitora is probably the weakest admiral as well.

 

[shon93]

Sabo got low-diff'd pretty much by Fujitora so I doubt Luffy/Zoro can individually mid-diff. one. IMO Fujitora is probably the weakest admiral as well.

Lol that statement is retarded...let us not forget Fuji asked for the fight to be stopped not Sabo ...if he could beat him low diff then Sabo wouldn't be standing 10 chapters later with just scratches on his face...use that brain of yours...unless u show me a panel of Sabo with his face in the dirt then u have no point....the man was smiling ....BTW I still believe he would lose to Fuji not like how your making it tho

Lastly I believe Fuji is stronger than Kizaru but that's just my opinion