Can Ashura incarnates use eyes of Indra?

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While its confirmed Indra incarnates can use Ashura's abilities.

What about in reverse?
 

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I would think so, if all it took was Madara juicing on Hashirama cells than if, hypothetically, Hashi snatched Madara's eyes he should also gain full 6 paths power
 

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I would think so, if all it took was Madara juicing on Hashirama cells than if, hypothetically, Hashi snatched Madara's eyes he should also gain full 6 paths power

But if their eyes are apart of their brain's chakra sprouts then how so?
 

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Nagato used Madara's eyes easily. Not only he's a "fake" Senju (for being Uzumaki), but he wasn't even Asura's reincarnate.

If Hashirama had taken Madara's EMS, then he would have unlocked Rinnegan and would have become even more OP than Madara....

I have no doubts Hashirama would be able to use PS.....
I always kinda wanted Madara to use Shinsusenju and cover it with Perfect Susanoo...but..nah...
 
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Probably, but it's their destiny not too.
 

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But if their eyes are apart of their brain's chakra sprouts then how so?

Lol same way Nagato used Madara's rinnegan or Sasuke snagged Itachi's eyeballs or Danzo used 12 fuckin sharingan FROM HIS ARM!
 

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It's not that simple. Madara merged with Hashirama's DNA, making it as if he was born with Hashirama's powers. If Hashirama took Madara's eyes, it wouldn't be the same. He wouldn't get the Rinnegan and he'd permanently be stuck with the EMS without being able to deactivate it. Furthermore, since it's not his and he has no connection to it, Susano'o would be impossible.
 

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If Kakashi and Danzo can then Ashura incarnates can too.
 

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Madara couldn't use Golem or Shinsuusenju. So there is a limit upto which infusing one's physique with foreign powers can give access to.
Likewise, the brain chakra including the strong emotions of the Uchiha which Tobirama hyped to make them powerful in literal combat is necessary which Hashirama probably doesn't possess; so implanting the eye alone isn't cutting the bread.
 

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Madara couldn't use Golem or Shinsuusenju. So there is a limit upto which infusing one's physique with foreign powers can give access to.
Likewise, the brain chakra including the strong emotions of the Uchiha which Tobirama hyped to make them powerful in literal combat is necessary which Hashirama probably doesn't possess; so implanting the eye alone isn't cutting the bread.

Ah I did not even think about the fact that Madara couldn't use the higher level mokuton constructs
 

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Madara couldn't use Golem or Shinsuusenju. So there is a limit upto which infusing one's physique with foreign powers can give access to.
Likewise, the brain chakra including the strong emotions of the Uchiha which Tobirama hyped to make them powerful in literal combat is necessary which Hashirama probably doesn't possess; so implanting the eye alone isn't cutting the bread.

I think he could use it if he really wanted to....
 

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Yeah for sure they could, but idk if, say, naruto took sasukes eyes, idk if he could use susanoo or Amaterasu or flame control since those were specifically sasukes abilities. Same if naruto took the rinnegan, I don’t think he could use ameno like how nagato couldn’t use limbo
 

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But if their eyes are apart of their brain's chakra sprouts then how so?

I believe, and this is just my opinion from what I've gathered, that the eyes themselves can retain some of that brain chakra, Like how Kakashi was able to use Obito's sharingan, but not turn it off or on. He couldn't change the state of the eye (beside using mangekyou but I consider that to fall in a different category) but could use the abilities well enough.

I think fatigue and natural instinct could be issues, but those can be overcome.

I think that the asura reincarnate in question would basically be in the same boat as Kakashi, where they can use the eyes effectively and destructively, but they will be subject to drawbacks that Indra users would not be subject to.
 

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While its confirmed Indra incarnates can use Ashura's abilities.

What about in reverse?

Yes, we basically saw the other version with Toneri... It'd probably go way faster too...Lol, rather than waiting until he is an old man...Hashirama would probably develop Rinnegan in a day or two=D... (we need that reverse world again...switch up Madara and Hashirama's roles:heh:)

and there is some evidence that the body might just use eye powers to a higher lv too. Boosting physical energy allows one to handle sharingan easier and even use a once in a decade ability once a day.
 

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It's not that simple. Madara merged with Hashirama's DNA, making it as if he was born with Hashirama's powers. If Hashirama took Madara's eyes, it wouldn't be the same. He wouldn't get the Rinnegan and he'd permanently be stuck with the EMS without being able to deactivate it. Furthermore, since it's not his and he has no connection to it, Susano'o would be impossible.

How do? Eyes contain DNA as well. And he is putting them in his own Sockets. Or are you are under the hypothesis, that it has to be ingested in order to mix the DNA? I mean Nagato, Kakashi, AO, and Danzo seem to be able to use other people’s eyes and they aren’t even Ashura/Indra Transmigrants.
 
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