Can anubody please explain the requirements to unlock Perfect Susanoo?

[shelke]

MS and the skill to stabilize final Susano'o, V4.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

PS basically a MS technique, EMS is still MS but with the protection from blindess because over use of chakra to the eyes or strain to the eyes.

In indra case, we can assume that he is in special case as the first persons to wield the Sharigan that direct power born from Hago power.

but his descandents dont have that luxury to gain PS by MS alone, other than forbidden tech like Izanagi and Izanami, like I state above, using to much the eyes power can causing blindness

because of that Sasuke and Marara need a EMS to achive and stabelize PS, PS hold much power compared to not to refine susanoo.

In Sasuke case, I think Kishi want to drag him to use a PS in IT chapter, but He having shown the PS triait earlier when his Susanoo wrapped a Kyuubi.

In madara case, sure we knew already, it same as Sasuke cases

and both having EMS to avoided blindness, Itachi lost his other sharigan after activating the normal susanoo is the proof that power put some strain to his eye after using other MS abilities

in Kakashi case, Obito is not a living being but a Chakra and the rule of life is out for him, that mean kakashi not needed to fear blindness if that happen , and if that happen, his real eyes will not. But for me ad Obito is spirit with chakra and not following real life rule, blindness will not occur

and he can test the susanoo to the limit by copying Sasuke PS if he really using copying method, if not that can be consider his form of PS

That my two cents

How did Obito unlock perfect susanoo even before activating regular susanoo? Doesnt make any sense. If perfect susanoo is indeed a MS ability how come Itachi never tried to use it in his entire life? No MS user has ever been shown to use PS except Kakashi who is a special case

If EMS stabilizes perfect susanoo, how come rikudo chakra work the same way? Whats the connection between rikudo chakra and ems?

 

[Joseph Gomes]

MS and the skill to stabilize final Susano'o, V4.

Which Itachi lacks I assume? Not according to Danzo and Black Zetsu who called Itachi more skilled than Sasuke. Itachi had MS for several years

 

[Tarinth]

They say that PS is the result of a fusion of two people's chakra. The chakra of
the brother whose eyes you stole, and your own. This combination forms the two faces
on the susanoo, and the true merge creates the Perfect Susanoo. I recall this distinctly
being said. As for how Kakashi obtained the PS, well... rikudo chakra is essentially the
steroid chakra of the series. The Perfect Susanoo is the result of a huge amount of power
and it is difficult to use. People with normal MS don't have the power to make it, and/or don't
possess the skill to make it before they lose their vision.

However, Obito could never make susanoo as he only had one MS eye. Having never unlocked susanoo,
he would not have been able to missing an eye like Madara, who has so much experience with it.
When Obito gains both eyes, he can't make it as he has practically no chakra. Apparently his death
though, restored his chakra to full, and his chakra now has some rikudo powers to it. As a result,
when Kakashi got Obito's chakra, he gained some super powered chakra that allowed him to instantly
make PS because rikudo chakra is greater than all other chakras, even the chakra of two Uchiha brothers
combined. With such powerful chakra as well, it is easier to use techniques like PS than it is for someone
with just EMS and their own normal chakra.

 

[shelke]

Which Itachi lacks I assume? Not according to Danzo and Black Zetsu who called Itachi more skilled than Sasuke. Itachi had MS for several years

I have no idea what you are talking about. Itachi didn't have Susano'o in part part one when he made the statement 'when the sun and moon become one.' This was a statement in regards to his Genjutsu and Amaterasu eye. The zetsu explains it in part two during Sasuke and itachi's fight. Whether he's more or less skilled than Sasuke is not the topic of your thread, nor should you steer it in that direction.

MS's effects are extremely taxing and when an Uchiha uses Susano'o, even more so, as Sasuke stated that 'every cell in his body felt pain.' Itachi was also plagued by a virulent illness that killed him. EMS smooths out the chakra taxing effects of MS and would make the process easier. Had he not been affected by illness, he might have gained PS, in fact, I am certain he would have. Try to keep all factors in mind, as when Itachi was using Susano'o he was coughing up a large amount of blood. It was Susano'o that hastened his death.

 

[V h o]

EMS makes your chakra more potent?

Yes it does, according to Sasuke he was

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after the operation, power also means chakra. So it seems EMS boosts the user chakra/power as well, which may be why PS is shown with EMS. Rikudo chakra seems to suffice though-Kakashi's case/Obito's case.

 

[Chie]

It was just assumed that one needed EMS prior to the Kakashi incident since all people had EMS prior to using PS. When Sasuke and Madara had only MS, they didn't ever use PS.

Then, this theory was thrown out the window once Obito died and gave Kakashi his chakra, which led to him using MS to awaken PS.

So, no one can give you a definite answer.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

It was just assumed that one needed EMS prior to the Kakashi incident since all people had EMS prior to using PS. When Sasuke and Madara had only MS, they didn't ever use PS.

Then, this theory was thrown out the window once Obito died and gave Kakashi his chakra, which led to him using MS to awaken PS.

So, no one can give you a definite answer.

Hence it was called an asspull XD

It really was actually Lol

 

[Ansatsuken]

How did Obito unlock perfect susanoo even before activating regular susanoo? Doesnt make any sense. If perfect susanoo is indeed a MS ability how come Itachi never tried to use it in his entire life? No MS user has ever been shown to use PS except Kakashi who is a special case

If EMS stabilizes perfect susanoo, how come rikudo chakra work the same way? Whats the connection between rikudo chakra and ems?

Itachi never have a chance to use PS in his life time, when he is alive he use normal torso susanoo but was short lived, he died of illness.

in edo also he dont have a chance to use it for a reason, like he dont knew that such Susanoo exist or if he knew in the first places, he dont want to risk to lost his eyes, there are more important thing to do, that to stop Kabuto by using Izanami.

I have post before only one that use PS by MS is Indra, the chapter is title Naruto and Rikudou

While the first susanoo appear is on chapter that title as Susanoo. Go check it in MP.

they key word here is Chakra, because PS is massive chakra construct and not like toad summon because they having their own chakra while PS relay on the full owner chakra.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

Thanks to everybody who tried to answer my question! I wish we had proper evidence which connects to all the elements rather than resorting to hypothesis.

It doesnt matter anymore since the manga is over, but still curiosity is a good things that keeps interest alive. Thanks again for answering guys!

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Obito basically is just like Indra. Indra didn't have EMS, but because he had sharingan and Hagoromo's chakra Indra's Susano'o was a winged PS

Basically this, plus it was never stated that you need ems to achieve Perfect sousano