BZ is currently the second strongest shinobi.

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Before even gaining kurama he was able to stalemate both Minato and Kakashi at the same damn time. I dont want hear Kakashi and Minato are not trying to kill him so it doesn't count, because BZ is so strong that he able to exhaust minato's BM. Plus raikiri and a big azz rasengan are not techniques that you use against an opponent that you are not trying to kill. Also Obito also counts as BZ's power.
 

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just no/
u making it seem like he got control over kurama
and that he using jutus from obito body to harm them....he just keeping them at bay
 

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Or Minato simply decided to turn off his KCM? He wasn't trying to kill him after all
 

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Chojuro is the first strongest then. He owned him and forced him to flee.
 

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You realize that black zetsu is just a glob looking for a host to latch on?

Anytime black zetsu is fighting, it him plus someone else.

Right now it's black zetsu and Obito vs minato and Kakashi.

Before it was half of white Zetsu body and black zetsu vs. chojiro.

A dead man is carrying black Zetsu's weight, he can't fight independently.
 
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Or Minato simply decided to turn off his KCM? He wasn't trying to kill him after all
Why would you back against somebody whom you are struggling against? The breathing bubble made it obvious that he was struggling...
 

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Why would you back against somebody whom you are struggling against? The breathing bubble made it obvious that he was struggling...
They didn't want to kill Obito, doesn't mean BZ didn't want to kill them. They were simply struggling to defend themselves without the state in mind to kill the enemy
 

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No, BZ stated he would be dead in an instant without Obito's body.

In fact, if Minato and Kakashi wanted to kill obito still, BZ would be dead.
 

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This page says it all really, Black Zetsu knows his place. Now enough of these stupid threads.

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Well....I've made a thread about Obito being BZ's power. I feel most understand that he is...as Obito is unconscious, so he has full control of his body. Also he says he has Dark Kurama within his grasp....so that would also make it his power. Minato didn't turn his Kurama cloak off he was exhausted. I agree OP, but I feel some that know this to be true are in denial of it. No disrespect to anyone...just how I see it....as always to each their own. But OP I wholeheartedly agree.
 

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Well....I've made a thread about Obito being BZ's power. I feel most understand that he is...as Obito is unconscious, so he has full control of his body. Also he says he has Dark Kurama within his grasp....so that would also make it his power. Minato didn't turn his Kurama cloak off he was exhausted. I agree OP, but I feel some that know this to be true are in denial of it. No disrespect to anyone...just how I see it....as always to each their own. But OP I wholeheartedly agree.
I feel you're the one in denial in everything that concerns Minato. No disrespect. It's only my opinion
 

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I feel you're the one in denial in everything that concerns Minato. No disrespect. It's only my opinion
What am I in denial of? I acknowledge everything Minato is, but Bogard do you truly believe Minato put the cloak down? It shows him very clearly exhausted and breathing heavily. The cloak diminished..... I'm not out to get Minato....I will admit he isn't my most liked, but I'm trying my best to be honest. That's all... If you believe he put it down so be it. I cannot change your beliefs..... ^_^
 

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What am I in denial of? I acknowledge everything Minato is, but Bogard do you truly believe Minato put the cloak down? It shows him very clearly exhausted and breathing heavily. The cloak diminished..... I'm not out to get Minato....I will admit he isn't my most liked, but I'm trying my best to be honest. That's all... If you believe he put it down so be it. I cannot change your beliefs..... ^_^
Yes i believe so since i don't see why he would use it when he doesn't even want to kill the enemy, but instead save him. If he tried his best, there would have been craters all around the area where they were fighting caused by Bijuudamas and you know it. Reason why you're in denial
 

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Black Zetsu can't even use Kurama's power if he doesn't let him, so he's still a fodder to Minato or Kakashi just like he admitted in canon. The only reason he's alive is cause he's on Obito right now.
 

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Yes i believe so since i don't see why he would use it when he doesn't even want to kill the enemy, but instead save him. If he tried his best, there would have been craters all around the area where they were fighting caused by Bijuudamas and you know it. Reason why you're in denial
Well.... Thanks for telling me what I know. ^_^ Anywho....do as you please. "IF, THERE WOULD BE......" Honestly....it's not that important to me....as I've said believe whatever you choose. I disagree.... Nothing ill harbored toward you.....
 

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Well.... Thanks for telling me what I know. ^_^ Anywho....do as you please. "IF, THERE WOULD BE......" Honestly....it's not that important to me....as I've said believe whatever you choose. I disagree.... Nothing ill harbored toward you.....
I didn't force you to chose something and honestly i don't care about your opinion, but next time never call someone else in denial when you know yourself you're wrong since most of the time it's you who is in denial
 

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Even Black Zetsu disagrees with you.
 

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What am I in denial of? I acknowledge everything Minato is, but Bogard do you truly believe Minato put the cloak down? It shows him very clearly exhausted and breathing heavily. The cloak diminished..... I'm not out to get Minato....I will admit he isn't my most liked, but I'm trying my best to be honest. That's all... If you believe he put it down so be it. I cannot change your beliefs..... ^_^

Show me where Minato's mouth is even open?

Also, Kakashi and Minato are refraining from killing Obito. Fact.
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Here he says... WATCH OVER OBITO. Not kill him.

And Minato stopped Kakashi from killing him originally before Obito tried to redeem himself.
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Not to mention the above pages where Black Zetsu mentioned that unleeching himself from Obito would result in Kakashi and Minato owning him.

Minato has no panting signs by him either.

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I didn't force you to chose something and honestly i don't care about your opinion, but next time never call someone else in denial when you know yourself you're wrong since most of the time it's you who is in denial
Nao you're telling me what to do. >_O I did not ever say you were in denial....I said it seems that way to me. I don't know if you are. I feel you are a bit emotional....and get very emotional by what I post. I'm wrong because you say? I'm in denial most of the time? Hmm.... I think it a waste of time and energy dealing with you. I concede you are correct Bogard....you are always correct. :mad:_@: >_O
 

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currently as in right now? If so yes... otherwise hell to the no...
 
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