Byakugan/Sharringan - Chakra Tree - Jougan/Jagan - Evoltion/Plot and the Ootsutski

[whiteboy2345]

okay so MS or Rinnegan isn't from the Sharringan

got it

The Rinnegan and Sharingan are two halves of an eye, the Jougan is a mutation of a mixture of bloodlines. Two different concepts.

 

[Vulpini]

okay so MS or Rinnegan isn't from the Sharringan

got it

Unlike the Sharingan, the Byakugan has never really shown to have an evolution.

The Sharingan has always been portrayed with the evolutionary dynamic: 1T > 2T > 3T > MS > EMS > Rinnegan.

Can you show me a manga scan where it was stated that the Byakugan has a form of evolution?

Of course, Bolt's doujutsu has a connection with the Byakugan, I'm not denying that. But it was never stated that it is a Byakugan, or that it is an evolution of the Byakugan.

Up until now, it is just a doujutsu that happens to be related to the Byakugan. And guess what? The sharingan is also related to the byakugan. I guess every doujutsu is related to some degree.

 

[Made in Heaven]

The bodily bloodline of Hagoromo has no noted ties to the Otsutsuki line and comes from Hagoromo's Sage chakra, meaning that Hagoromo most likely mastered a Sage mode so strong it resonated in his DNA. The Otsutsuki don't have anything to do with Asura's bodily blood line, so it's factual.

>Says what he's saying is fact
>Statement hinges on a "most likely"

wut

I'll ask again, you know Ukyo personally to be claiming Ashura has influence here?

 

[Yahcob13]

Up until this point the series revolved around tailed beasts and sharingans. Now Boruto is pulling s/t jutsu out the arse with his byakugan and its gonna get pretty hype when we start to see high level byakugan user's put in work. Can you imagine if Toneri just roll up on the battlefield? And I dont even know what to expect from Boruto he's gonna be off da charts tho

 

[whiteboy2345]

>Says what he's saying is fact
>Statement hinges on a "most likely"

wut

I'll ask again, you know Ukyo personally to be claiming Ashura has influence here?

So Asura's blood mixing with Hamura's didn't create the Jougan? Alright I think we're done here.

 

[Made in Heaven]

So Asura's blood mixing with Hamura's didn't create the Jougan? Alright I think we're done here.

Manga or anime scan of this being confirmed?

Just because you're hurt at the Byakugan line having focus, no need to push your theorys as facts until they actually become fact.

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

Joagan definitely has ties to the Ootsutski clan. I mean we saw Kinshiki was able to morph portals kamui much like Boruto was.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

Likely Hamura was the bodychakra /or rather natural genes from Kaguya

while Hagoromo was like Indra and got all the quick benefits of the chakra fruit

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Eventually Hamura awakened his potential

but then he died so it wasn't recorded on what would happen if he continued to refine that Tenseigan


unfortunately he got the eyes near the end of his life so he couldn't fully "Reincarnate" it
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Note the Juubi or chakra tree is usually talked in terms of being tainted, dark, evil, foul, etc...

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Hagromo tried to use its chakra to make it into some pure form that would cause goodness

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but people turned it into ninjitsu

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This is what makes it interesting


Naruto tamed Kuruma and also befriended the other tailed beast

although he didn't pass on their chakra to his offspring he did have some form of this pure chakra that Hagoromo was talking about

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Jougan likely came from that and Hinata's Pure Byakugan



While the OOtsutki are going about it wrong the answer again was likely LOVE.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

The Rinnegan and Sharingan are two halves of an eye, the Jougan is a mutation of a mixture of bloodlines. Two different concepts.

that is just speculation like my thread

again I believe the Jougan existed before Boruto

this isn't a new eye but the original eye that the Tenseigan tries to get to

again look at my comparision of the Sharringan tree (the life/death cycle) and the Byakugan trying to Tenseigan (Reincarnate)

 

[Made in Heaven]

Agree with above, it's very likely Jougan exists in other Ootsutsuki.

 

[whiteboy2345]

Hanabi's Byakugan seems to be the true pure eye.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

again my thing is a theory and it can be tweaked by other people besides me

I just gathered all the stuff I read/watched and also heard from fellow base members to try and connect the dots together

also explains the whole BORUTO IS THE SUN concept

or a light for others

or his preaching of love and friendship that makes people follow him

he is like Naruto in that sense but now due to his mother and his father he can also get the next step of getting an ancient eye



I have a feeling the whole Ootsutki thing is again people chasing after something via the wrong means

like Toneri not understanding Hamura's will or Madara with that Tablet

the current Ootsutki is after power thinking that is the founders will but in reality the Jougan can only be awakened via good chakra/love or something more cliche

 

[Reviewing Logic]

Hanabi's Byakugan seems to be the true pure eye.

again Hanabi and Hinata BOTH have pure byakugans

neither negates the other

Toneri pursued both

 

[whiteboy2345]

again Hanabi and Hinata BOTH have pure byakugans

neither negates the other

Toneri pursued both

Toneri wanted Hinata as a wife, but needed Hanabi's eyes.

And even then, can you provide a scan or data book entry explaining how pure Hinata's blood is?

 

[Hyuga Prodigy]

Likely Hamura was the bodychakra /or rather natural genes from Kaguya

while Hagoromo was like Indra and got all the quick benefits of the chakra fruit

Eventually Hamura awakened his potential

but then he died so it wasn't recorded on what would happen if he continued to refine that Tenseigan


unfortunately he got the eyes near the end of his life so he couldn't fully "Reincarnate" it
-------------------------------
Note the Juubi or chakra tree is usually talked in terms of being tainted, dark, evil, foul, etc...



Hagromo tried to use its chakra to make it into some pure form that would cause goodness

but people turned it into ninjitsu



This is what makes it interesting


Naruto tamed Kuruma and also befriended the other tailed beast

although he didn't pass on their chakra to his offspring he did have some form of this pure chakra that Hagoromo was talking about



Jougan likely came from that and Hinata's Pure Byakugan



While the OOtsutki are going about it wrong the answer again was likely LOVE.

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Yea Hagoromo explained while back that no matter how excellent the parents are, the child cannot inherit from both parents genes and can only attain one of their abilities. This sound exactly like Momoshiki said to Naruto that he had all this power yet could not passed down to Boruto.

If what Hagoromo said are true, then Boruto Joagan definitely have ties with Hinata and hamura decree

 

[Misо]

lmao

Take a look at my sig and tell me: who's really trolling here?

The uchiha were easily killed by young Itachi, so why would a hyuga with Hamura's chakra have any trouble?

 

[Made in Heaven]

That moment when people are actually arguing two sisters are not both pure in lineage. :elmo:

 

[whiteboy2345]

The uchiha were easily killed by young Itachi, so why would a hyuga with Hamura's chakra have any trouble?

I'm sorry, but that's a cute fanfiction. Itachi admitted to the fact that he couldn't handle them all himself, even Sasuke figured it out before showing up at the Uchiha hideout. He needed Obito's help, you know, the guy that can slip through ****ing everything? I'm convinced that you are touched in the head sweetie.

Hinata cannot handle the Uchiha clan alone.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

Toneri wanted Hinata as a wife, but needed Hanabi's eyes.

And even then, can you provide a scan or data book entry explaining how pure Hinata's blood is?

look Toneri was literally blind until he got Hanabi's eyes

prior to that he sent his puppets to get both Hanabi and Hinata for their eyes

prior to that he bluntly said it Hiashi "lol I am going to steal some eyes from you pure genetics"

Hanabi and Hinata are sisters

Toneri only thought of marrying Hinata post he already got one of the eye sets (he also realized she was beautiful)

Him marrying Hinata was also due to her pure genes and wanting pure offsprings

maybe even knowing something about the Jougan seeing that he is the only one that is informing her child about it

 

[Misо]

So, now after saying Hinata can single handedly kill the Uchiha clan you're putting her on Itachi's level?

Are you for real? Why do I feel like every post you make can be used in my signature?

And i'll not even bring the fact that Obito with Kamui MS helped Itachi.

I'm not for real, of course Hinata isn't as strong as Itachi, but young Itachi being able to kill off his clan already proves how weak they generally are. Geniuses like Itachi don't represent the entire Uchiha clan.

You tried to convince us that the Byakugan is irrelevant, because you're a salty troll with nothing better to do than report other members and stalk the Hyuga FC.