"Byakugan is greater than EMS by feats"

[Ansatsuken]

If we're strictly talking dojutsu I agree, MS has Shinju feats, but if we're talking about Byakugan with Juken powered by Sage chakra I'll have to disagree. Sasuke had two dojutsu and still struggled against Juken.

They would be fairly equal but their power levels would ultimately come down to the intelligence of the users, who can use their power in the smartest way ? Hyuga are untouchable in CQC but Uchiha have ridiculously OP long range abilities.

Yes we're strictly talking about Doujutsu and not Special clan. Even this thread specific to Doujutsu.

Use this scenario for a fair comparison. Two normal shinobi born into the world.

One was born with the EMS, the special chakra, jutsus and everything that comes with it.

One was born with the Byakugan, the special chakra, jutsus and everything that comes with it.

 

[Made in Heaven]

As simple as that

Who said what you said? Dont make it sounds complicated when its not.

Naruto also can produce it.

Byakugan not inserting any specialty into the attack but it can see the chakra point where the user can took the benefit of that to launch more precise and much deeper attack. So it can easily manipulated the chakra system weaknesses effectively.

Nope. Vacuum Attack is loading Chakra into the fist and releasing it in the shape of fists, it's even directly compared to the Air Palm. What Naruto does is take Kurama's Tails and change them into fists. Your logic is like saying Naruto has Susano'O because his Kurama Mode gives him a Chakra Avatar.

 

[123fire]

Bayakugan is fodder so ofcourse EMS

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

And Senju DNA.

Yeah how could I forgot that. I heard that sometimes Curse Mark from Oro helps them too.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Nope. Vacuum Attack is loading Chakra into the fist and releasing it in the shape of fists, it's even directly compared to the Air Palm. What Naruto does is take Kurama's Tails and change them into fists. Your logic is like saying Naruto has Susano'O because his Kurama Mode gives him a Chakra Avatar.

Not from Kurama's tails

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Sorry LB it looks similar to Kaguya's chakra punch. It clearly came from Naruto's fist. Execute it in similar fashion to Kaguya's chakra punch.

 

[Jiren]

Hyuuga stans your tears are delicious.

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Furthermore your dumbass is comparing a Juubi Jin++++ boost to a clan power. Fkin sad man.

Do i really have to remind you a Juubi Jin take on every shinobi in the world including the 4 hokage at the same damn time and not be touched.

Then don´t be a hypocrite and show me Byakugan and EMS user with same power buffs, same chakra potency and reserves , same skills in order to make fair comparison. I will wait.

 

[iFlowMotion]

EMS shits all over byakugan

 

[FemmeFatale]

Maybe if it was byakugou instead of byakugan

 

[Jiren]

Then don´t be a hypocrite and show me Byakugan and EMS user with same power buffs, same chakra potency and reserves , same skills in order to make fair comparison. I will wait.

I'm not being a hypocrite. I asked the question in the OP with a fair scenario.
Teh hypocrite is you.


We know what byakugan grants and what EMS grants so who would become the stronger shinobi.

 

[Rock Slayer]

Sharingan is the ultimate ninjutsu tool, Byakugan is the ultimate awareness tool


Sharingan has the strongest genjutsu, Byakugan should have the insight to see through the genjutsu


Sharingan users have the chakra for fastest shunshin, Byakgan users have the insight to read the fastest movement



Hamura was Hagoromo's equal and had the stronger Yin affinity, the Hyuga's eyes give them potential to read through every jutsu like Itachi did, the only difference is that their observation feats come primarily from their eyes while Itachi mostly relied on his rational thinking.


The ability to read through any jutsu and negate any jutsu with Juken ultimately gives them equal potential to any of Hagoromo's descendants, you hate hearing this but Yin = Yang, Hamura's potential = Hagoromo's potential

How did you come up with that basis. Like how?

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

Hyuuga faps still think they replicate what Kaguya did.

No one ever said that Hyuga can replicate that. Stop reaching it.

Some Hyuga fan rustled you so you created a whole thread about it.

 

[Made in Heaven]

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Sorry LB it looks similar to Kaguya's chakra punch. It clearly came from Naruto's fist. Execute it in similar fashion to Kaguya's chakra punch.

My point still stands. Two techniques being similar doesn't make them the same.

Mind you, Naruto is extending the arms out of his fists, Kaguya is shooting them out.

 

[Jiren]

No one ever said that Hyuga can replicate that. Stop reaching it.

Some Hyuga fan rustled you so you created a whole thread about it.

:| Hyuuga stans defending each other and licking each others wounds, how stale.

 

[Umari Senju]

EMS.

If the 2 Shinobi are exactly of same stock born with these doujutsu then chakra output should be the same. While genjutsu might not be as effective against the Hyuga; techs like Amateratsu, and Susanoo are on another level even at the same chakra output.

Would be interesting to see how long Rotation could be maintained when a Susanoo comes crashing down. Could the Byakugan user's air palm reflect it? Could vacuum palm be used to the effect Kaguya's tech was used in Sasuke's PS? Would it even have any effect on Susanoo?

I just don't see a regular Byakugan winning against an EMS. 3T sure. Maybe even hold out against MS since you could simply wait for the MS to go dark(blind)

But EMS? I'm gonna say no on Byakugan winning this

 

[Tauren Chieftain]

:| Hyuuga stans defending each other and licking each others wounds, how stale.

At least we have someone to support us , unlike Uchiha fanbase who are alone now . And they even accepted Sakura .

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[Reviewing Logic]

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Sorry LB it looks similar to Kaguya's chakra punch. It clearly came from Naruto's fist. Execute it in similar fashion to Kaguya's chakra punch.

okay this is silly :kk:

Naruto is literally doing chakra arms

look at his arm to hand ratio

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Kaguya's fists come from around her and not spewing out of her arm to hand ratio


nevertheless what distinguishes her chakra attack compared to Naruto's is her chakra

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she does a full body chakra release right here

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similar to neji here

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you do a similar full body release with rotation

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Hyuga inherited their chakra from Hamura who got it from Kaguya

Kaguya can meld her ability with the 10 tail chakra, similar to Hinata having such a high boost by just 1 tail chakra cloak alone

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the whole debate of it being a chakra fist or not is idiotic since Naruto doesn't have similar chakra to Kaguya, hamura or the Hyuga even the Moon ootsutski


You can see him fail here against Toneri's chakra.

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[Jiren]

At least we have someone to support us , unlike Uchiha fanbase who are alone now . And they even accepted Sakura .

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Right... I think you and LB need a break from this site. The world is bigger than your laptop.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Maybe if it was byakugou instead of byakugan

You've been awfully quite lately what up?

 

[davidou]

I'm not being a hypocrite. I asked the question in the OP with a fair scenario.
Teh hypocrite is you.


We know what byakugan grants and what EMS grants so who would become the stronger shinobi.

A random shinobi will not be able to use any EMS technique because it requires too much chakra.