Byakugan Honesty

[whiteboy2345]

Since when has this ever been a fundament truth in Shonen manga? Look at the half Saiyan like trunks or Gohan. Their sayain blood should be diluted yet they still are or eventually will be relatively stronger than their father's.

Seems the formula for them. Half breeds seem to be stronger than their pureblood parents.


With the exception of Naruto and Sasuke, even then, Boruto might achieve that since we are dealing with Otsutsuki here.

That's how genes work. Are you seriously going to deny that Hamura's Byakugan is leagues above what any Hyuga could replicate in two to four lifetimes? Indra's Sharingan is no doubt stronger than his descendants own, am I correct? Naruto and DBZ are not the same.

 

[To Whatever]

Naruto has already admitted that he can't beat Sasuke without Kurama's help.

:sdo:

He doesn't need to beat him. Only bring him back to the village. :tea:

 

[Umari Senju]

That's how genes work. Are you seriously going to deny that Hamura's Byakugan is leagues above what any Hyuga could replicate in two to four lifetimes? Indra's Sharingan is no doubt stronger than his descendants own, am I correct? Naruto and DBZ are not the same.

I get what you're saying don't get me wrong. Sure in reality you're dead right. But again by NV standards genetic heritage and the gene pool doesn't work that way. Of Course Hamura's Byakugan is leagues above the standard or even prodiga Hyuga. But you saw what The Last did with Hinata. Seems like that power is still accessible just not by conventional means.

Same thing happened with Indra and the Sharingan, and Hagoromo and the Rinnegan. We've seen it time and time again. That's all I'm saying.

 

[Made in Heaven]

What does that have to do with anything? The blood of the aliens has still thinned out insanely in order to make a clan of people. Mind you, in order to keep the clan alive, outbreeding has to occur, and a lot of it. Years and years of watering down the Hyuga blood is what gives you the current Hyuga clan.

In order to even have a clan with strong genes, the clan members have to be distant enough in blood for reproduction. When these people share not only the same Haplogroup genes, but even similar personalities, and Kekkei Genkai, the blood gets too close. This strong blood demands thinning for higher numbers which means that the Byakugan wielded by an Otsutsuki would be far more effective than one wielded by a Hyuga.

Like Umari Senju said, real-life genetics don't apply here.

The concentration of Neji's genes were so great that he could see farther than Hinata with his eyes. You can only imagine how far Hamura could see in comparison to his descendants and the so called "Byakugan Princess".

Neji's vision at 18: 800 m

Hinata's vision at 18: 20 Km

:xD:

 

[lndra]

I agree. I expect him to most likely disappear when they get to the cannon stuff.

Agreed. Iwabee and that random purple haired girl too, I suspect (they were all in the OP).

 

[whiteboy2345]

Like Umari Senju said, real-life genetics don't apply here.



Neji's vision at 18: 800 m

Hinata's vision at 18: 20 Km

:xD:

We're well aware that in the beginning, Neji's vision was leagues above her own. Hiashi even said that his genes were the strongest in the entire clan.

How do real-life genetics not apply? You're only saying that because if we did apply them, your theories would fall face flat.

 

[Made in Heaven]

We're well aware that in the beginning, Neji's vision was leagues above her own. Hiashi even said that his genes were the strongest in the entire clan.

How do real-life genetics not apply? You're only saying that because if we did apply them, your theories would fall face flat.

Part 1 Hinata = 1 Km (13)

Part 1 Neji = >50 m (14)

Part 2 Hinata = 10 Km (17)

Part 2 Neji = 800 m (18)

The Last Hinata = 20 Km (19)

No, because this is a fictional series.

 

[To Whatever]

We're well aware that in the beginning, Neji's vision was leagues above her own. Hiashi even said that his genes were the strongest in the entire clan.

How do real-life genetics not apply? You're only saying that because if we did apply them, your theories would fall face flat.

What real life genetics allows you to run at mach 58? or see kilometers like that?

 

[whiteboy2345]

Part 1 Hinata = 1 Km (13)

Part 1 Neji = >50 m (14)

Part 2 Hinata = 10 Km (17)

Part 2 Neji = 800 m (18)

The Last Hinata = 20 Km (19)

No, because this is a fictional series.

Izumi Uchiha's difficulty with using the Sharingan was due to her being born half Uchiha and to two non-shinobi parents. Izumi is in the Itachi novels so real life genes clearly do apply.

 

[Ansatsuken]

Izumi Uchiha's difficulty with using the Sharingan was due to her being born half Uchiha and to two non-shinobi parents. Izumi is in the Itachi novels so real life genes clearly do apply.

And no Hyuuga was born from half Hyuuga and half non-Hyuuga. Hinata's father and mother clearly a Hyuuga, full blooded Hyuuga. Thats what differentiate Uchiha and Hyuuga. We dont know if someone is an Uchiha unless they awaken a Sharingan. Also it will be difficult to know whether their parents are Full blooded Uchiha or half Uchiha and half ordinary people but Hyuuga is given and easily to trace out

 

[whiteboy2345]

And no Hyuuga was born from half Hyuuga and half non-Hyuuga. Hinata's father and mother clearly a Hyuuga

You seem to be lost.

 

[whiteboy2345]

What real life genetics allows you to run at mach 58? or see kilometers like that?

You're also lost here.

 

[Ansatsuken]

You seem to be lost.

it 'seem' meant a 50/50 chance. Not truly lost. It can be you who doesnt understand the whole concept.

 

[whiteboy2345]

it 'seem' meant a 50/50 chance. Not truly lost. It can be you who doesnt understand the whole concept.

We're not arguing about how easy it is to identify someone's lineage, we're talking about how lineage and parentage can affect the child's performance. Izumi being half Uchiha and having two non-shinobi parents made it hard for her to use the Sharingan, meaning that her genes were clearly affected by her parentage.

If two people with great physical strength come together and have a kid, the child will probably come out with greater muscle mass than other children who are usually born to average parents. The reflection of real-life genetics is clear within the show.

 

[Ansatsuken]

We're not arguing about how easy it is to identify someone's lineage, we're talking about how lineage and parentage can affect the child's performance. Izumi being half Uchiha and having two non-shinobi parents made it hard for her to use the Sharingan, meaning that her genes were clearly affected by her parentage.

If two people with great physical strength come together and have a kid, the child will probably come out with greater muscle mass than other children who are usually born to average parents. The reflection of real-life genetics is clear within the show.

But Lady Byakugan already gave the comparison, between Hyuuga Hinata and Hyuuga Neji in long range vision,

Part 1 Hinata = 1 Km (13)

Part 1 Neji = >50 m (14)

Part 2 Hinata = 10 Km (17)

Part 2 Neji = 800 m (18)

The Last Hinata = 20 Km (19)

Where in that comparison shout Neji is superior to Hinata. And I remember one quote, it said Hinata can see farther than Neji

-Hinata

in Part I, Hinata Hyūga can see targets 50 metres away; by Part II, she can see targets 10 kilometres away,[9] and by age 18, she can see targets 20 kilometres away.[10]

-Neji

whereas he could only see things 50 metres away in Part I,[20] by Part II he could see things from at least 800 metres.[21]

 

[ninjarasengan]

Izumi Uchiha's difficulty with using the Sharingan was due to her being born half Uchiha and to two non-shinobi parents. Izumi is in the Itachi novels so real life genes clearly do apply.

Nagato was born to non-Shinobi parents and only one of them was an Uzumaki...yet he could handle Madara's eyes better than Obito

 

[Made in Heaven]

Nagato was born to non-Shinobi parents and only one of them was an Uzumaki...yet he could handle Madara's eyes better than Obito

Obito even had Senju DNA.

 

[Umari Senju]

We're not arguing about how easy it is to identify someone's lineage, we're talking about how lineage and parentage can affect the child's performance. Izumi being half Uchiha and having two non-shinobi parents made it hard for her to use the Sharingan, meaning that her genes were clearly affected by her parentage.

If two people with great physical strength come together and have a kid, the child will probably come out with greater muscle mass than other children who are usually born to average parents. The reflection of real-life genetics is clear within the show.

You're not wrong here. It's not that real life genetics are completely absent in the NV. For the most part, the concept of genetic heritage and mixing of the gene pool functions as it does in real life. But for story purposes Kishi(and most likely Ikemoto) overlook certain factors in genetics that would otherwise be true for the sake of plot development and the theme of the younger generation surpassing the old.

 

[whiteboy2345]

Nagato was born to non-Shinobi parents and only one of them was an Uzumaki...yet he could handle Madara's eyes better than Obito

And? What does that change exactly? It's a clear inconsistency of writing.

 

[ninjarasengan]

And? What does that change exactly? It's a clear inconsistency of writing.

Written by Kishimoto. and Haku was the same...a half-breed born to farmers

The Izumi crap was written by someone else