Byakugan Honesty

[00Rinne]

I don't know about every1 else here but for me it's always been a awesome doujutsu from the start.. (Me thinking it was going to be a rival to the sharingan an all) It could have been just as good or better then the sharingan if it had the same developments as the red eyes did..

The reason the sharingan is so popular from what i can see is because of the duel monster Susano'o an manipulation of jutsu.
The Byaku could have had some development along with it to put them on even terms..

(Honestly for me!.. If you take away Susano'o an put them on the same playing field then any Hyuuga could handle themselves quit well against a sharingan user but the development didn't allow for it)

It's what happens when the script isn't writing or thought out correctly.. Rush job Inconsistencies,azzpullz & a bunch of confusion..

(Call it Milkin)

 

[HyuugaHeir]

You don't see how hypocritical it is to say that the Hyuga are at a disadvantage with their eyes from a god, than the Uchiha with their 3x watered down eyes from the same god?

There's literally no evidence in the entirety of the manga that the Byakugan has any drawbacks from being Kaguya's original eyes. Literally none. At all. So that's entirely fanfiction.

And even if they were more difficult to adapt to, who cares? That just means they're worse than the Sharingan, which proves your opposition correct anyway.

Lastly, you really think upgrades have anything to do with Uchiha shitstomping Hyuuga?

EMS Madara, MS Itachi, MS Shisui, EMS Sasuke, MS Izuna. Literally all Uchiha with no exterior upgrades to their abilities, all able to take out any of the most elite Hyuuga with stupid ease using their eyes alone.

You really just have to accept that the Byakugan is the shittiest of the Doujutsu, and the Hyuuga were forgotten. It's a manga fact. Get out of the past. The Hyuuga are called Konoha's strongest clan because the Senju and Uchiha are gone. They're one of the only clans left, and even then I can think of a few other clans that give them a run for their money as well.

I'll assume by the lack of counter arguments that any and all Hyuuga fanboys in this thread have conceded the argument, and have realized that the Hyuuga clan, though more powerful than nearly all of the other no-names, are still immensely outclassed by anyone of merit in this manga, and especially by the elite clans such as the Uchiha or the Senju, even by only taking in to account their inherent Kekkei Genkai and bloodline traits.

It was a good run.

I respectfully acknowledge your thoughts. I won't start defending the Hyuuga from your choice of words (which are maddeningly upsetting btw). Shittiest, sure if that is how you see it, and no one can really persuade you otherwise.
I just want to express that I happened to find the Byakugan cool and Neji's introduction was big and Hinata's weirdness was appealing and despite the minimal "manga facts" we Hyuuga fanboys can present to counter every argument, Uchiha-related or not, byakugan and jyuuken are eternally my top takeaway from thesource material. Chapter 614 and 615 came as well as The Last, and NH becoming canon and Boruto and Himawari being teased to display Hyuuga heritage, I have rejoiced during all those finite moments. And those were real happy experiences I've had (let us not dwell with this part... skipping hohoh)

Cutting this short, even if it is just wishful thinking and hoping that Byakugan somehow takes centerstage in Boruto series, I would gladly involve myself to it. Who knows maybe it does. I'm geneally a nice person but I also find it fun to take on a challenge of arguing, say with a Sharingan wanker.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

I don't know about every1 else here but for me it's always been a awesome doujutsu from the start.. (Me thinking it was going to be a rival to the sharingan an all) It could have been just as good or better then the sharingan if it had the same developments as the red eyes did..

The reason the sharingan is so popular from what i can see is because of the duel monster Susano'o an manipulation of jutsu.
The Byaku could have had some development along with it to put them on even terms..

(Honestly for me!.. If you take away Susano'o an put them on the same playing field then any Hyuuga could handle themselves quit well against a sharingan user but the development didn't allow for it)

It's what happens when the script isn't writing or thought out correctly.. Rush job Inconsistencies,azzpullz & a bunch of confusion..

(Call it Milkin)

Sadly, the lack of development hindered the Byakugan from reaching such point. I also got tired of typing-posting that lack-of-development argument in every Uchiha vs Hyuuga thread. I swear people should at least comprehend that.

 

[Reviewing Logic]

Because Neji was awesome in part one

and the Hyuga were OP before nerfs

plus we literally were drowned with Uchiha stuff that people don't want any of that

 

[Hakke]

10 years of sharingan wank is fine but Byakugan gets like 4 months of exposure and people lose their minds.

i'm not going to mention fanbases. But they are the most insecure about the smallest things.

*cough* uchihatards *cough*

OT : it was hyped from the moment that Neji and the Hyuga clan was introduced, and it was even more hyped in Neji vs Kidomaru.
all it needed was some development, but nope, we got some nerfs instead. the Byakugan was just too OP to the point that Kishi was always nerfing it (The Blind Spot, Neji not being able to recognize Naruto, etc.. )

the Sharingan was "..meh", that's why Kishi kept giving it asspull powerups that have nothing to do with the Eye's main ability.

 

[HyuugaHeir]

I just don't see what is there to hate about the Hyuuga? They had less development overall than they should have.
You say Hyuuga arent the one being hated but the the fandom is. Then why take it on us? We're equals, we're all readers. Healthy discussion is what I expect from this place.

 

[King Of Pop]

Am guessing the hype is due to the new series. anyways they can hype as much as they want, just don't be retarded and spout bs like neji has surpassed MS sasuke or air palm can destroy soosano or any crap that i have been seeing around here.

 

[lndra]

Am guessing the hype is due to the new series. anyways they can hype as much as they want, just don't be retarded and spout bs like neji has surpassed MS sasuke or air palm can destroy soosano or any crap that i have been seeing around here.

What did you think of episode 1?

 

[To Whatever]

Am guessing the hype is due to the new series. anyways they can hype as much as they want, just don't be retarded and spout bs like neji has surpassed MS sasuke or air palm can destroy soosano or any crap that i have been seeing around here.

SM Naruto surpassed Ms Sasuke :kd:

 

[Styles]

Unknownpleb tried to neg rep me but couldn't.

 

[King Of Pop]

What did you think of episode 1?

It was okay. the new doujutsu and the way he subconsciously awakened it was cool. although not exactly sure about what the deal is with that denki guy

SM Naruto surpassed Ms Sasuke :kd:

You know that a lie

 

[JStar King]

SM Naruto surpassed Ms Sasuke :kd:

Naruto has already admitted that he can't beat Sasuke without Kurama's help.

:sdo:

 

[Warlocks]

It was okay. the new doujutsu and the way he subconsciously awakened it was cool. although not exactly sure about what the deal is with that denki guy


You know that a lie

You know SM Naruto > Ms Sasuke mangafact *_*

 

[Made in Heaven]

You don't see how hypocritical it is to say that the Hyuga are at a disadvantage with their eyes from a god, than the Uchiha with their 3x watered down eyes from the same god?

Sharingan is a human eye, originated in the human Indra. Byakugan is not/

There's literally no evidence in the entirety of the manga that the Byakugan has any drawbacks from being Kaguya's original eyes. Literally none. At all. So that's entirely fanfiction.

Yes there is, as only Ootsutsuki can push the Byakugan to the Tenseigan level, Hyuga can not.

And even if they were more difficult to adapt to, who cares? That just means they're worse than the Sharingan, which proves your opposition correct anyway.

Because I'm talking about the eyes at their full potential.

Lastly, you really think upgrades have anything to do with Uchiha shitstomping Hyuuga?

EMS Madara, MS Itachi, MS Shisui, EMS Sasuke, MS Izuna. Literally all Uchiha with no exterior upgrades to their abilities, all able to take out any of the most elite Hyuuga with stupid ease using their eyes alone.

Madara and Sasuke are Indra incarnates. Itachi and Shisui are prodigies. They're obviously not the standard of the Uchiha.

You really just have to accept that the Byakugan is the shittiest of the Doujutsu

A tool is as powerful as the person wielding it, so this statement holds no weight.

Byakugan is trash but no one can use Kaguya as an example to say a Byakugan user is better than a Sharingan user. Considering 1 Kaguya ate the chakra fruit and have more chakra than freaking JJ Madara. Which makes her attacks literally stronger than any and everyone else's. And 2 she uses her Rinne-Sharingan more than her Byakugan. You should compare Hyuga's to Uchiha's. Hyuga's Byakugan to Uchiha's Byakugan.

RinneSharingan has the same powers as the Sharingan, as stated by Hagoromo. Kaguya had the Sharingan's powers, yet never used them.

Why compare the Hyuga's Byakugan to the Sharingan when its the Ootsutsuki that can bring out it's full potential (Tenseigan)?

 

[ninjarasengan]

Naruto has already admitted that he can't beat Sasuke without Kurama's help.

:sdo:

Well, he underestimated himself:scorps:

 

[whiteboy2345]

You know SM Naruto > Ms Sasuke mangafact *_*

No shit sherlock, obviously Naruto would beat someone that's blind. You and your ilk are so petty that it's honestly just pathetic.

 

[whiteboy2345]

Sharingan is a human eye, originated in the human Indra. Byakugan is not/

What does that have to do with anything? The blood of the aliens has still thinned out insanely in order to make a clan of people. Mind you, in order to keep the clan alive, outbreeding has to occur, and a lot of it. Years and years of watering down the Hyuga blood is what gives you the current Hyuga clan.

In order to even have a clan with strong genes, the clan members have to be distant enough in blood for reproduction. When these people share not only the same Haplogroup genes, but even similar personalities, and Kekkei Genkai, the blood gets too close. This strong blood demands thinning for higher numbers which means that the Byakugan wielded by an Otsutsuki would be far more effective than one wielded by a Hyuga.

The concentration of Neji's genes were so great that he could see farther than Hinata with his eyes. You can only imagine how far Hamura could see in comparison to his descendants and the so called "Byakugan Princess".

 

[Umari Senju]

All of the Byakugan's current hype comes from purposefully misinterpreted manga scans.

Maybe it will live up to the hype with this new manga, but in Kishi's manga, it was left behind.

You may be right. But that's the exciting part of the whole thing I suppose. The fact that Kishi neglected the Byakugan. Now Ikemoto is focusing on Byakugan so the possibility for it to become as great as the Sharingan or maybe even the Rinnegan has become slightly more believable now....assuming this actually takes off and Ikemoto does indeed go in that direction.

Spoiler

What does that have to do with anything? The blood of the aliens has still thinned out insanely in order to make a clan of people. Mind you, in order to keep the clan alive, outbreeding has to occur, and a lot of it. Years and years of watering down the Hyuga blood is what gives you the current Hyuga clan.

In order to even have a clan with strong genes, the clan members have to be distant enough in blood for reproduction. When these people share not only the same Haplogroup genes, but even similar personalities, and Kekkei Genkai, the blood gets too close. This strong blood demands thinning for higher numbers which means that the Byakugan wielded by an Otsutsuki would be far more effective than one wielded by a Hyuga.

The concentration of Neji's genes were so great that he could see farther than Hinata with his eyes. You can only imagine how far Hamura could see in comparison to his descendants and the so called "Byakugan Princess".

Since when has this ever been a fundament truth in Shonen manga? Look at the half Saiyan like trunks or Gohan. Their sayain blood should be diluted yet they still are or eventually will be relatively stronger than their father's.

Seems the formula for them. Half breeds seem to be stronger than their pureblood parents.


With the exception of Naruto and Sasuke, even then, Boruto might achieve that since we are dealing with Otsutsuki here.

 

[lndra]

It was okay. the new doujutsu and the way he subconsciously awakened it was cool. although not exactly sure about what the deal is with that denki guy
:

People are saying that he's Kawaki. Like he went on some frankstein shit in the future which is why he looks so different ... but that makes like 0 sense to me tbh. I think he's just an SP character that will be irrelevant like Inari.

 

[Umari Senju]

People are saying that he's Kawaki. Like he went on some frankstein shit in the future which is why he looks so different ... but that makes like 0 sense to me tbh. I think he's just an SP character that will be irrelevant like Inari.

I agree. I expect him to most likely disappear when they get to the cannon stuff.