BSM Naruto vs SM Hashirama

[KingHashirama]

Night moth destroys hashirama

Only if gai is in 8th gate at start.. without being in 8tg gate from the start.. hes not beating hashirama. Nobody would be arrogant like madara to try to fight gai head on. You simply go hide.

 

[EZQ]

Only if gai is in 8th gate at start.. without being in 8tg gate from the start.. hes not beating hashirama. Nobody would be arrogant like madara to try to fight gai head on. You simply go hide.

But gai can open gates as soon as the fight starts, he just has to touch his heart with his finger, that's faster than Hashi bringing any of his mokuton. I don't know why you brought that up if it doesn't change a thing. Also, you're implying that Hashirama has knowledge on the 8th gate, but he doesn't, he doesn't know gai can open the 8th gate so he doesn't go "hide". Even if he does that, how would that help? Gai woul break any barrier and shield Hashirama puts to protect himself.

 

[Unorthodox]

Night moth destroys hashirama

not even close night moth is not destroying 2000 arms that dwarfs the body of shinsuusenjutzu

 

[KidGamer65]

If Flash BD can plow through SS, Naruto decisively wins. If it can't (I doubt it can) then Hashirama would win decisively. If this is Adult Naruto, then it's a rolfstomp no matter what Hashirama does.

 

[KingHashirama]

But gai can open gates as soon as the fight starts, he just has to touch his heart with his finger, that's faster than Hashi bringing any of his mokuton. I don't know why you brought that up if it doesn't change a thing. Also, you're implying that Hashirama has knowledge on the 8th gate, but he doesn't, he doesn't know gai can open the 8th gate so he doesn't go "hide". Even if he does that, how would that help? Gai woul break any barrier and shield Hashirama puts to protect himself.

Similarly Hashirama can distract as soon as the fight starts. And gais gate charge up can be interrupted ya know.

Hashirama does have knowledge on the 8th gate.. its a old Konoha technique lol. Even madara had knowledge on the 8th gate.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Flash Bijuudama is grabbed and thrown right back. Hashirama stomps.​

 

[KingHashirama]

You know idk why people make flash TBB so special, its intially weaker than Full Kurama's normal tbb.

Full Kurama's covered nearly/almost/a bit more area than the combined explosion of the tailed beasts.

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Difference: The one with the bijuu exploded in air, the full Kurama's exploded on land.

 

[Omar19992010]

not even close night moth is not destroying 2000 arms that dwarfs the body of shinsuusenjutzu

It plows right through them and it hits Hashirama and he gets turned into paste. Hashirama isn't reacting to Guy at all. Guy in EE speed blitzes and takes Hashirama's head off.

Hashirama was struggling with EMS Madara. Guy was kicking the shit out of JJ Madara.

Why are we even talking about this in a BSM Naruto vs Hashirama match up?

 

[XY iNVeRSe]

Hashirama > any non rikudou character

Thread should've ended here

 

[EZQ]

Similarly Hashirama can distract as soon as the fight starts. And gais gate charge up can be interrupted ya know.

Hashirama does have knowledge on the 8th gate.. its a old Konoha technique lol. Even madara had knowledge on the 8th gate.

Gai showed no sign of "charge up" when he opened the 8th gate. Your argument is dead. Gai is faster than Hashirama, Hashi is no way "distracting him" if the only thing Gai has to do was to touch his heart. Once Gai opens the 8th gate Hashi can't save himself, he's no way reacting to gai's speed, who dodges every atack Hashi makes and destroys him with night moth.
Hashi has knowledge on the 8th gate, but he doesn't know Gai can use it.

not even close night moth is not destroying 2000 arms that dwarfs the body of shinsuusenjutzu

1- Why do you assume Gai has to break trough all those arms? He can dodge them.

2- And Hashi is reacting to Gai's above god speed because?...

Not even close.

 

[Chaosmark101]

Ps is equal to full kurama in power... Bsm narutoonly has the fire power of full kurama. You meed 2 cull kuramas aka kurama and Ps to make hashirama go sm.

Base mokujin can rival full kurama... hashiramas Sm mokujin would be superior.

PS would get Demolished by Full Kurama. One that's firing continuous tbb's or larger than medium sized bijuu damas anyways. In a 1v1 fight Full Kurama would win because He has better firepower, can block PS swords with his tails, & just has better long range capability.

Although I do agree. Perhaps a 100% Kurama BM Naruto & Base Hashirama probably is a better match up.
Just wanted to pit the Ashura transmigrants at their peak. (Excluding Naruto's)

 

[Conspirator.]

Hashirama should win mid to high difficulty.

 

[-immortal-]

Hashirama takes this.


Hashirama has Gates to use on naruto, shinsusenju that rapes.

As i say always, BSM naruto is overrated As fk

 

[KCMNaruto]

Haha So Many hashirama wankers, it is not even funny anymore.

Sure SM Hashirama takes this easy-mid diff at the most with Shin suuSenjuu, However without it it can go either way and Naruto has actually chance to draw it.

There who say BSM Naruto loose or match just Base Hashirama are trolling as Base Hashirama is nothing special once Bijuu powers are combined with Senjutsu or once Perfect Sussano arise.

Feel free to disagree although. I would like to debate about it with someone if you like

 

[EZQ]

Haha So Many hashirama wankers, it is not even funny anymore.

Sure SM Hashirama takes this easy-mid diff at the most with Shin suuSenjuu, However without it it can go either way and Naruto has actually chance to draw it.

There who say BSM Naruto loose or match just Base Hashirama are trolling as Base Hashirama is nothing special once Bijuu powers are combined with Senjutsu or once Perfect Sussano arise.

Feel free to disagree although. I would like to debate about it with someone if you like

Wood golem + Wood dragon stalemated Kiuuby + PS. Only when Madara combined the Kiuuby with PS then Hashirama went SM.

Against base hashirama naruto has a lot of trouble too, but of course he wins at the end, high diff.

 

[KingHashirama]

PS would get Demolished by Full Kurama. One that's firing continuous tbb's or larger than medium sized bijuu damas anyways. In a 1v1 fight Full Kurama would win because He has better firepower, can block PS swords with his tails, & just has better long range capability.

Although I do agree. Perhaps a 100% Kurama BM Naruto & Base Hashirama probably is a better match up.
Just wanted to pit the Ashura transmigrants at their peak. (Excluding Naruto's)

Madara's PS is superior or equal to Full Kurama. Sure Kurama can fire multiple tbbs, just like PS can throw multiple swords.

Gai showed no sign of "charge up" when he opened the 8th gate. Your argument is dead. Gai is faster than Hashirama, Hashi is no way "distracting him" if the only thing Gai has to do was to touch his heart. Once Gai opens the 8th gate Hashi can't save himself, he's no way reacting to gai's speed, who dodges every atack Hashi makes and destroys him with night moth.
Hashi has knowledge on the 8th gate, but he doesn't know Gai can use it.

uhh yea he did.. lool. he had to go through the other gates to reach the 8th gate.. that was enough time for Hashirama to do something about him. A guy who is skilled in the art of escaping is in no way able to distract Gai? .. even though its not that hard to distract people?

if Gai is charging up higher and higher.. common sense would say hes going to reach 8th gate. And even without him know he doesn't have 8th gate, he can chose to simply play it smart from the start.

Hashirama isn't attacking 8th gate gai, only an idiot would attempt that.

If Madara wasn't arrogant, he also would've neg-diff'd 8th gate gai, by simply using Mokuton techniques. But thats a different story.



Hashirama loses low-diff if he choses to confront 8th gate Gai.

Hashirama wins by default if he hides and waits for 8th gate gai to run of out the gates.

 

[EZQ]

uhh yea he did.. lool. he had to go through the other gates to reach the 8th gate.. that was enough time for Hashirama to do something about him. A guy who is skilled in the art of escaping is in no way able to distract Gai? .. even though its not that hard to distract people?

if Gai is charging up higher and higher.. common sense would say hes going to reach 8th gate. And even without him know he doesn't have 8th gate, he can chose to simply play it smart from the start.

Hashirama isn't attacking 8th gate gai, only an idiot would attempt that.

If Madara wasn't arrogant, he also would've neg-diff'd 8th gate gai, by simply using Mokuton techniques. But thats a different story.



Hashirama loses low-diff if he choses to confront 8th gate Gai.

Hashirama wins by default if he hides and waits for 8th gate gai to run of out the gates.

1- Gai jumped right from his base form to the 8th gate, so there's no charge up. Hashirama can't do shit before gai does this:

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2- Hashirama "the guy skilled in the art of escaping" is no way escaping from gai, who is 1o times faster than him. Gai destroys any defence Hashirama used and dodges any atack hashirama makes.

3- Anyways Hashirama is no way reacting to Gai's atacks so he isn't "hyding" either.

4- If hashi doesn't atack gai, what else can he do? Just wait until he gets his head blown off? Show me a scan of Hashirama using a jutsu that would actually protect him from 8th gate gai atacks. Oh wait, there isn't.

@bold: LOL, Gai even cracked TSB, how would "mokuton techniques" have helped him?

Hashirama gets shit stomped, stop posting already.

 

[Transcendence]

I'd like to reiterate the notion that KG stated. If flash Bijuudama can plow through Shinsenjuu, then Naruto would win this. But I have severe doubts about that being possible. Nothing is stopping Hashirama from creating other Mokuton constructs around him and Naruto (Like Mokujin for instance) and deflecting or outright throwing the Bijuudama right back. If this was Full Kurama BSM Naruto, he could do damage to him given that his Flash Bijuudama is upped from 6 at a time to 12. But again, highly debatable; for now in Hashirama's favour.

 

[KingHashirama]

1- Gai jumped right from his base form to the 8th gate, so there's no charge up. Hashirama can't do shit before gai does this:

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2- Hashirama "the guy skilled in the art of escaping" is no way escaping from gai, who is 1o times faster than him. Gai destroys any defence Hashirama used and dodges any atack hashirama makes.

3- Anyways Hashirama is no way reacting to Gai's atacks so he isn't "hyding" either.

4- If hashi doesn't atack gai, what else can he do? Just wait until he gets his head blown off? Show me a scan of Hashirama using a jutsu that would actually protect him from 8th gate gai atacks. Oh wait, there isn't.

@bold: LOL, Gai even cracked TSB, how would "mokuton techniques" have helped him?

Hashirama gets shit stomped, stop posting already.

1. Just proved my point, of him charging up brotha (chakra went from the first gate to the 8th gate )
. in the scan you posted he did it while running. Thanks. Hashirama in less time than that can summon huge hands in front of or behind him OR pop mokuton from the ground to restrain gai for a bit, while making wood clones. Wood clones distract him on who the real one is, tree world by one of the clones. Hashirama's location becomes unknown. Then Gai can have fun wasting attacks.

2. Only after he turns 8th gate, and already said it'd be dumb for Hashirama to attack 8th gate gai himself.. idk why you keep making it to so that Hashirama is attacking gai in 8th gate.

3. Hmm in 8th gate , hes not. before that? easily.

4. Did you fail to read what I said?? 8th gate is a jutsu that has a time limit, if Gai does not kill Hashirama within that time limit then he isn't beating him. There is no reason as to why anyone would attempt to battle it out with 8th gate gai, unless they want to try their skills against him. Or does your version of 8th gate keep on going forever?

5. How would mokuton techs have helped him?? Wood clones, tell me how Gai knows which one is the real Madara.. he doesn't. Mayfly, tell me how Gai senses Rikudou wood clones mayflying through the earth.. he doesn't.


I will say what I said before:

Only an idiot would attempt to try to battle it out with gai who goes 8th gate, when they can perfectly waste the duration of 8th gate.
Hashirama has no need to actually combat gai in 8th gate, to beat him. He simply needs to let the 8th gate run out.

Idk why you have an obsession with Hashirama trying to attack gai in 8th gate..

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Why are ppl bringing up flash bd like hashirama's never caught bigger bd's b4.

He throws it back gg,
he drains and restrains bsm avatar via gates and dragon gg.

SS plows through the rest.