BSM Naruto vs SM Hashirama

[Thesaurus]

If Flash BD can plow through SS, Naruto decisively wins. If it can't (I doubt it can) then Hashirama would win decisively. If this is Adult Naruto, then it's a rolfstomp no matter what Hashirama does.

Couldn't Hashirama just detect the massive chakra build up through SM and use Torii gate to prevent its release?

 

[EZQ]

1. Just proved my point, of him charging up brotha (chakra went from the first gate to the 8th gate )
. in the scan you posted he did it while running. Thanks. Hashirama in less time than that can summon huge hands in front of or behind him OR pop mokuton from the ground to restrain gai for a bit, while making wood clones. Wood clones distract him on who the real one is, tree world by one of the clones. Hashirama's location becomes unknown. Then Gai can have fun wasting attacks.

2. Only after he turns 8th gate, and already said it'd be dumb for Hashirama to attack 8th gate gai himself.. idk why you keep making it to so that Hashirama is attacking gai in 8th gate.

3. Hmm in 8th gate , hes not. before that? easily.

4. Did you fail to read what I said?? 8th gate is a jutsu that has a time limit, if Gai does not kill Hashirama within that time limit then he isn't beating him. There is no reason as to why anyone would attempt to battle it out with 8th gate gai, unless they want to try their skills against him. Or does your version of 8th gate keep on going forever?

5. How would mokuton techs have helped him?? Wood clones, tell me how Gai knows which one is the real Madara.. he doesn't. Mayfly, tell me how Gai senses Rikudou wood clones mayflying through the earth.. he doesn't.


I will say what I said before:

Only an idiot would attempt to try to battle it out with gai who goes 8th gate, when they can perfectly waste the duration of 8th gate.
Hashirama has no need to actually combat gai in 8th gate, to beat him. He simply needs to let the 8th gate run out.

Idk why you have an obsession with Hashirama trying to attack gai in 8th gate..

1-
-There was no aura around him, so as soon as he touched his heart the gates from 1 to 8 were opened. If it wasn't that way, he would've had at least a small aura around his body, but he didn't, so Gai can go 8th gate right from base form.

-He did it while running because he was aproaching madara, he can do it standing if he wants to. But anyways, this is actually better for gai. He can open the 8th gate while moving. With that said, Hashirama ain't stopping him form going 8th gate since Gai would dodge anything Hashirama makes.

-All the atack you listed take a lot more time than Gai just touching his heart.

2- If hashirama doesn't atack Gai he dies anyways. Once gai reaches the 8th gate he destroys any defence Hashirama makes to hyde himself. Not to mention, Gai blows off his head before hashirama can even do something. Are you really implying that hashirama can make wood clones and hyde himself before gai uses EE or night moth? You're a joke.

3- Good job genius. We're talking about 8g gai here.

4- The time limit is more than enough to stomp hashirama, lol. You already failed at that "hyding" BS, which hashirama can't do since Gai reaches the 8th gate before hashirama can do something. And if hashirama tries to protect himself with "mokuton" he gets crushed. The time limit is a non factor since the battle ends right away.

5- Wood clones? First of all, Gai destroys all of them in a few seconds. Second of all, Hashirama is not making clones before Gai uses the gates, since i already adressed it only takes him to touch his heart.

*Hashirama can't waste the duration of the 8th gates. Your argument is too poor. Hyding between clones and forest? Before Hashirama makes any of those things Gai is already atacking. Even if he manages to make clones, Gai rapes them all just with one move, until he finds the real one.

Hashirama has no chance. You are a ridiculouss biased fanboy who is a joke to everybody in this base. Again i'll tell you: This was my last reply, don't bother to counter since i won't even read, your lack of arguments makes this boring.

 

[Red Slayer]

Hashi-mid-diffs-Imo

 

[Oblivionx]

Hashirama probably wins high diff though arguments here are laughable... BSM naruto is one of the fastest characters in NV bar rikudo chakra...! all those big ass techniques hashirama has aren't touching naruto in humanoid form...! lol if hashirama never caught madara with any ov his mokuton techniques (other than edo madara which was never a serious battle as madara was just playing around waiting for the right moment till obito was weak enough) then naruto is far from getting hit by hashirama's jutsus...! i'm not saying naruto won't have any difficulty at all as i said high diff for hashirama.. it will be difficult to avoid everything hashirama has so naruto will have to destroy things too but he has the firepower to do so as well...
madara had PS yet we saw both ov them fight in CQC.. why? why not spam susano and mokujin from a distance as that's how people here think fight goes... hashirama wins because ov SM sensing and healing...! naruto will run out ov BSM and that is when hashirama will win..! he ain't touching naruto in BSM form... BSM naruto was able to sense jubito after some time.. and so was sasuke able to track him... there's no reason to believe that naruto can't react to any ov hashirama's techniques and if he can react then he can avoid them...
about SS.. it's all a big misconception.. it's nothing as special as people make it out to be... SS was still there after madara lost both kyubi and susano yet fight dragged on... give me 1 reason as to why SS didn't crush kyubiless susanoless madara...? because it is supposed to fight large targets like beasts and PS... not shinobi with good enough shunshin... naruto can jump on to it's arm and get to hashirama...

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

Hashi low-mid diffs..

 

[KidGamer65]

Couldn't Hashirama just detect the massive chakra build up through SM and use Torii gate to prevent its release?

Possible. I actually don't see what that wouldn't work.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Gai showed no sign of "charge up" when he opened the 8th gate. Your argument is dead. Gai is faster than Hashirama, Hashi is no way "distracting him" if the only thing Gai has to do was to touch his heart. Once Gai opens the 8th gate Hashi can't save himself, he's no way reacting to gai's speed, who dodges every atack Hashi makes and destroys him with night moth.
Hashi has knowledge on the 8th gate, but he doesn't know Gai can use it.



1- Why do you assume Gai has to break trough all those arms? He can dodge them.

2- And Hashi is reacting to Gai's above god speed because?...

Not even close.

Above god speed? L00l he not the 2nd or even 4th fastest person in the series.​

 

[EZQ]

Above god speed? L00l he not the 2nd or even 4th fastest person in the series.​

Gai is a lot faster than one eyed Juubidara. Juubidara's speed is already in the god tier.

People faster than gai: Kaguya, Naruto, Sasuke and 3 eyed madara. And they're all on the god tiers

 

[ARGUS]

Gai is a lot faster than one eyed Juubidara. Juubidara's speed is already in the god tier.

People faster than gai: Kaguya, Naruto, Sasuke and 3 eyed madara. And they're all on the god tiers

Uhh why would gaining 2 eyes change how fast madaras body moves?
he is still much slower than guy

sasuke has superior reactions but when it comes to raw speed he is still slower than guy

 

[EZQ]

Uhh why would gaining 2 eyes change how fast madaras body moves?
he is still much slower than guy

sasuke has superior reactions but when it comes to raw speed he is still slower than guy

Before getting the third eye Madara wasn't even able to keep up with naruto and sasuke, after he got it his limbos were matching Naruto's speed.

I agree that Gai's raw speed > Sasuke's, but sasuke has S/T jutsu which is instant.

 

[EZQ]

Uhh why would gaining 2 eyes change how fast madaras body moves?
he is still much slower than guy

sasuke has superior reactions but when it comes to raw speed he is still slower than guy

Before getting the third eye Madara wasn't even able to keep up with naruto and sasuke, after he got it his limbos were matching Naruto's speed.

I agree that Gai's raw speed > Sasuke's, but sasuke has S/T jutsu which is instant.

 

[solorflare99]

Who will win?

The guy who's known for being power is reliant on a bijuu

Or

the guy who is known for suppressing and taming bijuu?

Can BSM Naruto even take on EMS Madara + Full Kurama?