BSM Naruto vs Minato
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Shadow clones make no difference, all it does is divide the users chakra. They're essentially just weaker and of no use, especially in high level battles. FTG clears them all out quickly.
Kakashi and Madara even told Naruto that using clones won't work, they're better suited for diversions and collaboration attacks; but when used to try and overwhelm an enemy, it won't work. Madara neg diff a Hashirama clone while sitting down... That's how weak they are. Against FTG, they'll be dealt with quickly and easily, it'll just be a waste if chakra.
Kakashi and Madara even told Naruto that using clones won't work, they're better suited for diversions and collaboration attacks; but when used to try and overwhelm an enemy, it won't work. Madara neg diff a Hashirama clone while sitting down... That's how weak they are. Against FTG, they'll be dealt with quickly and easily, it'll just be a waste if chakra.
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You're comparing that cloak to the KCM cloak when they're clearly different...
SM does not last forever, and I shall reiterate, Naruto was the only one on the tree being chased at that time, he had no clue on what was happening.
Are we talking about Sasuke?
The scan suggests that Minato teleported away without any recognization of Naruto's chakra arms, and it also has shown no evidence of Minato attempting to get closer to them but whatever.
Naruto currently has an eight tetragram seal while Minato gave him an 8 trigrams seal, and If you want to believe
that Minato can yank out Kurama, then Naruto can do the same too, except with Naruto's superior reflexes and speed, he wont fail.
Given that Naruto is on the same side as Minato and does not expect to be teleported.
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Minato could barely avoid
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Naruto was dancing with a V1 Ay and was able to avoid V2 Ay's
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Add in the fact that Ay was also much more experienced in his fight with Naruto
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Pure BS!!! LolAlso to add:
Minato could barely avoidYou must be registered for see links
Naruto was dancing with a V1 Ay and was able to avoid V2 Ay'sYou must be registered for see links
Add in the fact that Ay was also much more experienced in his fight with Naruto
That was V2 Ay & Minato Reacted To Him In His Base Form Just Fine While Naruto Needed KCM In Order To React...
Base Minato's Reflexes/Reaction Time >>>>>>>>> Base Naruto's
So KCM Minato's Reflexes/Reaction Time >>> KCM Naruto's
BM Minato's Reflexes/Reaction Time >> BM Naruto's
SM Minato's Reflexes/Reaction Time >> Sm Naruto's
The Only Version Of Naruto That Surpassed Minato In Term Of Reflexes/Reaction Time Is Current Naruto...
& He Will Never Surpass Him In Term Of Speed Cause FTG Is Instant...Though Naruto Has Better Striking Speed As Long As He's Not Marked...
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That was V1 Ay and Minato needed FTG to dodge Ay
The rest of your post is either wank or irrelevent, so I'll leave it at that
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You Are Either Stupid Or Blind...
Ay Himself Said : "He Avoided My Full Speed Punch" & Ay's Full Speed = V2...I Said React Not Dodge...He Reacted In The Right Time To Teleport...
In Base Form Minato Is Far Superior & SM,KCM & BM Enhance Their Abilities By A Same Amount So Minato Is Still Superior...Though Minato Could Just Dodge By His Shushin Cause By Feats His Shunshin Is Fast Enough To Do So But Unlike Naruto He Didn't Want To Just Dodge...He Wanted To Come Up With A Counterattack So He Used FTG...
I Don't Have Time For Your Shitty Arguments...I'm Done Here...
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Lel, and I thought Sasuke fanboys were the worst
Nothing suggests Ay had V2 at that point of time, you either show me proof, or stop talking.
You have no proof backing up your second claim, and the manga contradicts that.
So yeah, Minato is straight so hop off his D
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No it's only reserves. That's why Naruto. ACADEMY NARUTO made over 100 clones despite only practicing it for only a day. Yet that's the same naruto that can't climb trees cus his chakra control is crap.
it's irrelevant in the face of shadow clones since they require a set amount of chakra. Water clones for example use 10% of your chakra. They don't split chakra evenly(no minimum requirement). Therefore the most any user can make is 10 and the clones can't use techniques that cost more than 10%(they also can't stray too far from the original).
Because your under the impression that there's a limit to how many shadow clones can be made despite shadow clones mechanics not indicating said limit.
Irrelevant. You don't know how much chakra is required to make 1 wood clone. Therefore making assumptions that wood clones use the same amount of chakra or split chakra evenly is baseless.
He only needed 1... he never said "this is my limit" like Hashi and tobi did.
flase. The gates were already out. Hence himself saying"I STILL have the gates"
you'd have a point if he burned chakra for the gates but considering that they were already in play. ...
He created 6. And this point is baseless.
Because it splits ckaka evenly. Kakashi made 20 yet all he did was empty bluffs. Y? Because he's down to 1/20th of his already low chakra.
Tobirama made two and said it was his limit. Y? Because making any more would split his chakra to the point where he couldn't maintain the barrier. As he already admitted.
The same thing happened to naruto when he made a clone after his fight with nagato/itachi. He split his chakra (1/13th at the time) again thus couldn't maintain kcm mode.
Same thing happened to Naruto's clone during the fight with the 3rd Raikage. Naruto tried making a tbb in base but since it requires more chakra than he had (and better chakra control) it not only failed but it forced him out of kcm.
I don't have to. If you don't understand the basics on shadow clone jutsu then the whole post is flawed.
BM Minato > BSM Naruto > KCM Minato > KCM Naruto .
For the people showing their nonsense scans how Naruto hited Minato in his brain is just ridiculous and can't be taken seriously , Minato barely dodging Raikage's punch twice is again ridiculous and retarded , It is enough for you to know that Minato used FTG twice before Gai with 8th gates to move an inch , and please stop with the excuses and take the facts that are in the manga not your stupid assumptions .
For the people showing their nonsense scans how Naruto hited Minato in his brain is just ridiculous and can't be taken seriously , Minato barely dodging Raikage's punch twice is again ridiculous and retarded , It is enough for you to know that Minato used FTG twice before Gai with 8th gates to move an inch , and please stop with the excuses and take the facts that are in the manga not your stupid assumptions .
Lel and this is why I said you didn't read..Academy Naruto learned Multiple in the Scroll of seals despite already making a clone before that smh..I can't reply to your whole post as I don't have access to a PC atm.
LoL he dropped the gates from on top and said it still works in terms of restraining Obito..stop using flawed attempts. .He used it again on him.
I may not even have to reply to someone who doesn't read one's reply before posting...shows you're too stubborn
LoL he dropped the gates from on top and said it still works in terms of restraining Obito..stop using flawed attempts. .He used it again on him.
I may not even have to reply to someone who doesn't read one's reply before posting...shows you're too stubborn
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1. No I'm saying tenpachi does more damage than sm rasengan. Yet kcm tanked it. Minato will be fine.You're comparing that cloak to the KCM cloak when they're clearly different...
SM does not last forever, and I shall reiterate, Naruto was the only one on the tree being chased at that time, he had no clue on what was happening.
Are we talking about Sasuke?
The scan suggests that Minato teleported away without any recognization of Naruto's chakra arms, and it also has shown no evidence of Minato attempting to get closer to them but whatever.
Naruto currently has an eight tetragram seal while Minato gave him an 8 trigrams seal, and If you want to believe
that Minato can yank out Kurama, then Naruto can do the same too, except with Naruto's superior reflexes and speed, he wont fail.
Given that Naruto is on the same side as Minato and does not expect to be teleported.
Also to add:
Minato could barely avoidYou must be registered for see links
Naruto was dancing with a V1 Ay and was able to avoid V2 Ay'sYou must be registered for see links
Add in the fact that Ay was also much more experienced in his fight with Naruto
2.Yeah he fell from bsm to base cuz the tree took his chakra.Nope both got caught. Minato just reacted quicker.
3. Well seeing as how minato was the one using ftg obviously he wouldn't have problems reacting. Sasuke and Naruto are 3 parties in the situation yet only sasuke reacted... hmm.
4.No it doesn't. Why would minato teleport without knowing if sasuke and Naruto are coming with him? That makes 0 sense. Especially since the only ones in immediate danger are naruto and sauce. Heck minato was in 0 danger thus would have 0 reason to use ftg for himself.
As for the seal, no naruto can't do it since he knows not the handsigns.(they're one handed bruh!!)
5.So what makes you think he's gonna expect it this time? He dosent even know where Minato is sending him.
6.lol. Naruto got bopper by V1 Ay like a good 3 times b4 he got past. Minato danced on him and marked his brother on the first attempt.
Not to mention ay had to give naruto a heads up b4 he attacked. Lol. Don't do it to yourself.
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Clone jutsu=/= shadow clone jutsu. Lol this guy.
No he said
Never was the words mass shadow clone jutsu uttered.
Don't get taken back to the Academy.
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To add to that even iruka recognized it as shadow clone jutsu.
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Go back to chapter 1 bruh.
The way I remember it is this:
-Kages arrived and formed Four Red Suns Barrier.
-Hashirama dropped Deity Gates on Juubi tails.
-Obito came back from Kamui fight with Kakashi and controlled by Madara. Hashirama makes his 6 clones, Tobirama 2, and Minato 1. Barrier is still up by the way.
-Obito becomes Jubito. Hashirama drops Deity Gates again on him. Obito destroyed kages barrier. Hashirama clones dispersed.
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... all 4 kages used that seal to do the barrier.You must be registered for see linksI see..that's why he used a hand seal yet again which requires chakra usage
I see ...so that's why they always call it multiple shadow clones.
Go back to part 1 clown
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