BSM Naruto vs. EMS Madara

[Turson]

BM Naruto with only half of Kuramas chakra would be definietly defeated by Madara and his Perfect Susanoo, but what about BSM Naruto?

Yep, I know that we have no feats from BSM Naruto, so we cant really tell for sure, but I would like to know people opinion on this.

My opinion: well, SM works like multiplier of power, so current Naruto should be able to beat Madara and his PS.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

People need to stop saying PS > BM.

BM solo'd 6 bijuus and PS ain't doing that. Naruto's chakra roar knocked down 6 bijuus and you think PS will simply stand still?

Naruto was manhandling 1 bijuu in each of his chakra arm and you think PS can tank that shit?

SM is overkill.

Naruto wins.

 

[Fecal Matter]

Naruto stomps.

 

[KillerMongoose]

Madara mid difficulty.

 

[Fecal Matter]

Madara mid difficulty.

lol no .Lol

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Naruto Low diff. I can provide scans showing how easy it'd be for BSM Naruto to destroy PS.

 

[Turson]

People need to stop saying PS > BM.

BM solo'd 6 bijuus and PS ain't doing that. Naruto's chakra roar knocked down 6 bijuus and you think PS will simply stand still?

Naruto was manhandling 1 bijuu in each of his chakra arm and you think PS can tank that shit?

SM is overkill.

Naruto wins.

You must remember about PS feats, though. PS sword swing cut three mountain in row, and it wasnt even the sword itself, it was simply shockwave created by that swing. Moreover, Madaras Complete Susanoo tanked Kuramas TBB.

IMO, Madaras PS and full Kurama have comparable power.

 

[Fecal Matter]

You must remember about PS feats, though. PS sword swing cut three mountain in row, and it wasnt even the sword itself, it was simply shockwave created by that swing. Moreover, Madaras Complete Susanoo tanked Kuramas TBB.

IMO, Madaras PS and full Kurama have comparable power.

Madara tanked a small Bijudama which probably only had 20% of its max power within it.

Continuous Bijudama spam and Naruto can make a bunshin that can charge up Cho Odama Rasenshurikan and throw it in sync with the other TBB's flying towards madara.

Sage mode increases the power of ninjutsu so a small Bijudama like the one Madara tanked would dish out waaaay more damage.

Naruto can tank the shock waves easily.

Heck Naruto's shown the ability to use odama rasengan in full Buju mode, he can most likely make that giant rasengan into a rasenshurikan.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

You must remember about PS feats, though. PS sword swing cut three mountain in row, and it wasnt even the sword itself, it was simply shockwave created by that swing. Moreover, Madaras Complete Susanoo tanked Kuramas TBB.

IMO, Madaras PS and full Kurama have comparable power.

Madara said only a tailed beast's lethality can surpass PS. Kurama is THE STRONGEST tailed beast so that doesn't make sense.

The sword cutting a mountain was more show, if you ask me. If it cut mountains why are the Gokage still alive?

Also Naruto's roar made Bijuus fall down, which are as tall as mountains on their own accord, right?

Moreover, Madaras Complete Susanoo tanked Kuramas TBB.

Not only was it a small TBB, it was caught and then sent back.

no way in hell it's tanking Naruto's bijuudama which dwarves mountains by a -LARGE- margin.

 

[Bronze]

i am gonna have to say naruto wins this one. EMS Madara PS cant tank a giant TBB.

 

[Turson]

Madara said only a tailed beast's lethality can surpass PS. Kurama is THE STRONGEST tailed beast so that doesn't make sense.

Well, he said that that only Bijuus have comparable power to PS, that does not exlude the possibility of PS and Kurama having comparable power.

The sword cutting a mountain was more show, if you ask me. If it cut mountains why are the Gokage still alive?

Simply becuase didnt use that swing on them. Madara defeated Kages withouth PS, since like he said, it would be ungraceful to pull out the same technique second time in the same battle.

Not only was it a small TBB, it was caught and then sent back.

Yep, I know that it was pretty random and fast TBB, but keep in mind, that was CS tanking it, not PS. Also, keep in mind, that when Minato sealed away half of Kuramas chakra he became like 3-4 times smaller (

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Besides, just becuase it was sent back didnt take anything from its power when it exploded.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Look at the explosion blast. It is nowhere near the one that BM Naruto made.

And I am fairly sure the *********** translation was that '' only a bijuu surpasses it in lethality ''.

 

[Turson]

Look at the explosion blast. It is nowhere near the one that BM Naruto made.

Actually, there were two TBBs that caused that explosion: Narutos own one and TBB of six other Bijuus.

And I am fairly sure the *********** translation was that '' only a bijuu surpasses it in lethality ''.

Im sorry, but MS is no proof for me, simply becuase often their translations are incorrect. Now, if you gave me viz scan of that page, it would be different story.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

*********** is widely accepted as the best source unless you have a viz translation, which from what I know you have to pay for.

And Naruto made most of the impact of that bomb, but now he has more chakra since in this scenario he isn't tired and has senjutsu chakra.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

*********** is widely accepted as the best source unless you have a viz translation, which from what I know you have to pay for.

And Naruto made most of the impact of that bomb, but now he has more chakra since in this scenario he isn't tired and has senjutsu chakra.

Viz translation flat out said "Perfect susanoo even rivals the bijus" Considering Naruto's BM>>>most bijus..... Equaling normal BM is all Madara can hope for with PS, but it's stomped by BSM.

 

[Turson]

*********** is widely accepted as the best source unless you have a viz translation, which from what I know you have to pay for.

Well, people who actually knows japansese often say that MS scans use more coloful language, therefore they are better to read, but Manga Panda translations, although kinda... rough are actually more accurate.

And Naruto made most of the impact of that bomb

In that scene we could see two equal TBBs clashing which each other, so I dont really know what gave you that idea.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Well, people who actually knows japansese often say that MS scans use more coloful language, therefore they are better to read, but Manga Panda translations, although kinda... rough are actually more accurate.

In that scene we could see two equal TBBs clashing which each other, so I dont really know what gave you that idea.

Because Naruto's pushed the combined TBB so high it is somewhat obvious he made more than 50% of that blast. Even then, 50 % of that thing is enough.

 

[Turson]

Because Naruto's pushed the combined TBB so high it is somewhat obvious he made more than 50% of that blast. Even then, 50 % of that thing is enough.

Like Bee said, it was becuase it hit Bijuus TBB at the bottom, not becuase Narutos TBB was stronger (

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Moreover, they had the same size. ->

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Plus we have Hachibis line. ->

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[AGoodBoy]

I'm going to have to say EMS madara until we see more from BSM. As far as we know naruto still has 8 minutes in BM, maybe 15 now, max. As soon as BM drops, naruto dies by PS. No ifs ands or buts.

Sage Bijuu Dama may be able to bust a PS, but that's speculation until we see what it can actually do. Until then I'm going to Say SBM naruto may be >= EMS Madara.

PS is still a ***** along with using kuchiyose to cause excruciating pain by trying to summon the fox

 

[DemonicAvenger]

BM Naruto was already easily over EMS Madara. He was able to beat Edo Madara.

BSM Naurto eviscerates EMS Madara. Edo Madara is a tier below BSM Naruto as well.

Thinking EMS Madara is anywhere near touching BSM Naruto is ridiculous.