BSM Naruto is stronger than EMS Sasuke (Explained)

[Bronze]

Since when do shock waves travel through the air? And all they managed to do was break the tip of his sword, and that's only because Obito stopped his attack midway.

Shockwave can always travel through air:|. [

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]. PS sword slashed through Obito's sword as well as Obito at the same time. And no where it shows Obito stopped his attack.

Those aren't shockwaves. He simply destroyed the pillars of the building with a melee attack. The building collapsed as a result.

You can see in the left bottom panel, that the sword didn't touch any of the pillars [

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[ANiMUS]

I wonder how everyone is able to judge between the two when current Sasuke has such few feats.
Limits to Enton cutting ability?
Strength of Full Susanoo.
Abilities of PS?
Sasuke EMS stamina?
Current strength in genjutsu?

All these areas are left blank, but we already know the full extent of Naruto's abilities. So how is this accurate???

 

[Turson]

I wonder how everyone is able to judge between the two when current Sasuke has such few feats.
Limits to Enton cutting ability?
Strength of Full Susanoo.
Abilities of PS?
Sasuke EMS stamina?
Current strength in genjutsu?

All these areas are left blank, but we already know the full extent of Naruto's abilities. So how is this accurate???

Yep, I would like to know the answer for that question, too. Almost every post in this thread is a mere speculation, nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Touken]

Shockwave can always travel through air:|. [

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]. PS sword slashed through Obito's sword as well as Obito at the same time. And no where it shows Obito stopped his attack.

Madara's PS slash only produces shock waves because the sword hits the ground and the ground acts as a medium for the shock wave. If Madara threw his sword into the air, no shock waves would be produced, which is why there were no shock waves made from Madara's Bijuudama/PS slash attack on Hashirama's Shinsuusenju.

Bottom left panel you see lines coming off the Susanoo sword indicating it's going in a forward motion. No lines are shown on Obito's sword. [

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[take it easy]

tell me how any susanoo level can protect sasuke from tailed beast shockwave aka physical pressure?

 

[Bronze]

Madara's PS slash only produces shock waves because the sword hits the ground and the ground acts as a medium for the shock wave. If Madara threw his sword into the air, no shock waves would be produced, which is why there were no shock waves made from Madara's Bijuudama/PS slash attack on Hashirama's Shinsuusenju.

Bottom left panel you see lines coming off the Susanoo sword indicating it's going in a forward motion. No lines are shown on Obito's sword. [

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So hitting the ground is different than hitting a wood? You realize wood and ground have great durability, and considering Shinsuusenju's great durability, then PS sword would make shock wave since it collided with wood.

How does that prove Obito stopped his attack?

 

[TrollingSage]

Shockwave can always travel through air:|. [

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]. PS sword slashed through Obito's sword as well as Obito at the same time. And no where it shows Obito stopped his attack.



You can see in the left bottom panel, that the sword didn't touch any of the pillars [

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]. Further more, anime shows it was shockwaves.

That's because the swords hadn't reached their target yet. They were still in motion, hence the movement lines around them.
Also the anime showed Minato planting a seal then making the seal move to his targets location.

 

[Mishima]

EMS Sasuke > Naruto

Enton > FRS

The Sharingan will keep track of Naruto's speed. It was capable of keeping track on Juubito(who is faster btw).

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Frogs get 1 shotted.

Aoda handles the other Frog summonings.

In the end it will come down to PS vs BM. PS wins.

 

[itachi4real]

Imo ems sasuke beats bsm naruto

 

[Narutoga]

Naruto soloes mid diff

 

[Bronze]

That's because the swords hadn't reached their target yet. They were still in motion, hence the movement lines around them.
Also the anime showed Minato planting a seal then making the seal move to his targets location.

Then it means they never hit the pillars. [

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] The first 2 panels show sword was producing shock waves.
Never seen that happen.

 

[Touken]

So hitting the ground is different than hitting a wood? You realize wood and ground have great durability, and considering Shinsuusenju's great durability, then PS sword would make shock wave since it collided with wood.

How does that prove Obito stopped his attack?

They made shock waves when they collided with Shinsuusenju but not while they were in mid-air.

Lines show motion. No lines show no motion. No motion means Obito wasn't moving his sword and that means he stopped his attack.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Dude you're the one speculating he genjutsu bee why didn't he just go into his control the bijuu then? Because he can't u think its as simple a genjutsu controls bijuus its not. Kurama was locked to a contract seal that's why obito was able to control him and couldn't control the five tails without chakra rods

Was madara having any seal when he tamed kurama? MS is stated to control bijus. Its a fact.
Obito couldnt control 5-tail cuz he was manually controlling all the jins, bijus and gedo at once.

 

[Bronze]

They made shock waves when they collided with Shinsuusenju but not while they were in mid-air.

Lines show motion. No lines show no motion. No motion means Obito wasn't moving his sword and that means he stopped his attack.

They clearly didn't make any shock waves even when they touched the arms [

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You cant obviously be sure if that since there hardly any lines shown on PS sword suggesting its moving. And Obito had no reason to stop his attack, so its speculation nothing more.

 

[-Spoiler-]

EMS Sasuke > Naruto

Enton > FRS

The Sharingan will keep track of Naruto's speed. It was capable of keeping track on Juubito(who is faster btw).

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Frogs get 1 shotted.

Aoda handles the other Frog summonings.

In the end it will come down to PS vs BM. PS wins.

Lol and when has soda proven him self to handle frogs summons? The snake is feat less gamaken slices him up and make a belt out of him

 

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Was madara having any seal when he tamed kurama? MS is stated to control bijus. Its a fact.
Obito couldnt control 5-tail cuz he was manually controlling all the jins, bijus and gedo at once.

What the first thing madara did when he was revives was trying to summon it meaning kurama was under a seal. Minato severed the contract from obito

 

[AlphaScythian]

Madara's PS slash only produces shock waves because the sword hits the ground and the ground acts as a medium for the shock wave. If Madara threw his sword into the air, no shock waves would be produced, which is why there were no shock waves made from Madara's Bijuudama/PS slash attack on Hashirama's Shinsuusenju.

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What? Show me where the sword hits the ground. How did you even come up with this?

What the first thing madara did when he was revives was trying to summon it meaning kurama was under a seal. Minato severed the contract from obito

What is you point here? Seal is used to hold kurama inside jinchuriki hence madara couldnt summon him. Obito could only extract kurama from kishuna cuz seal was weakened but none of it is related to controlling biju with sharingan

 

[Smd]

think op is baiting or wanted a hot thread.

Naruto doesnt have kurama any more.

with it

He still doesnt beat sasuke

 

[Touken]

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What? Show me where the sword hits the ground. How did you even come up with this?

Keyword being medium. In that scenario Hashirama's Hotei no Jutsu acts as a medium.

Little bit of physics I did in high school.

 

[Touken]

They clearly didn't make any shock waves even when they touched the arms [

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You cant obviously be sure if that since there hardly any lines shown on PS sword suggesting its moving. And Obito had no reason to stop his attack, so its speculation nothing more.

What? How are you even meant to tell in that picture?

No reason? He was completely doubting himself, thinking what could have been if he stayed good.