BSM Minato vs EMS Madara

[Joseph Gomes]

BM Minato, he has the firepower to give perfect susanoo some challenge. And Minato is far, far faster than EMS Madara

 

[Unorthodox]

Madara wins this

 

[Gold Lightning]

I don't understand why people think PS is too overwhelming for Bijuu Mode U_U. Madara said Ps rivals the power of a Bijuu but for so,e reason people think Perfect Susanoo > Bijuu. A perfect Jinchuuriki is even stronger than a tailed beast on its own and 50% Kurama (Jichuuriki) is stronger than 5 tailed beasts at once.

Anyway, BSM is possible for minato since Bijuu mode speeds up the gathering of senjutsu and entering sage mode. Probably won't last for anymore than 5 minutes or less. Still, I think BM is enough, I don't think sage mode is needed. Minato high diff, a teleporting Bijuu would be too tricky to handle.

Edit: I assume Madara doesn't possess Kurama, seems stupid for both opponents to be using the same tailed beast.

 

[ARGUS]

Penetrative power=/= destructive power. Nothing suggests that BM avatar can tank penetration only because it tanked destructive power. PS cuts it right half going by feats and portrayal imo.

Juubis offense can turn countries and mountains into complete paste by vaporising them entirely,,, Madaras PS slashes on the other hand at most can cut mountains,,,,,,
Juubis offense is much higher in DC compared to PS,,, and with Minato should be jus fine from the PS slashes,

 

[Bronze]

Juubis offense can turn countries and mountains into complete paste by vaporising them entirely,,, Madaras PS slashes on the other hand at most can cut mountains,,,,,,
Juubis offense is much higher in DC compared to PS,,, and with Minato should be jus fine from the PS slashes,

So, shuriken is stronger than Bijuu Dama, right [

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[Apêx1]

Juubis offense can turn countries and mountains into complete paste by vaporising them entirely,,, Madaras PS slashes on the other hand at most can cut mountains,,,,,,
Juubis offense is much higher in DC compared to PS,,, and with Minato should be jus fine from the PS slashes,

Again, your analogy doesn't make sense. Being able to tank an explosion doesn't mean you are resistant to being cut. The two don't even begin to compare to eachother in terms of offence. One is vaporising while the other is slicing. Vaporising a mountain takes a lot of energy, which the Kyuubi can handle (even though it loses its most concentrated part of its body--its tails). Slicing mountains in half takes a massively concentrated shockwave which doesn't even compare to a higher energy concentrated attack, so your point remains moot. Until the avatar shows extreme penetrative durability, I have no reason to believe he can tank penetrative attacks, let alone the most powerful preventative attack in the manga.

 

[Conspirator.]

Again, your analogy doesn't make sense. Being able to tank an explosion doesn't mean you are resistant to being cut. The two don't even begin to compare to eachother in terms of offence. One is vaporising while the other is slicing. Vaporising a mountain takes a lot of energy, which the Kyuubi can handle (even though it loses its most concentrated part of its body--its tails). Slicing mountains in half takes a massively concentrated shockwave which doesn't even compare to a higher energy concentrated attack, so your point remains moot. Until the avatar shows extreme penetrative durability, I have no reason to believe he can tank penetrative attacks, let alone the most powerful preventative attack in the manga.

Yeah, the hachibi is a great example of your point.

 

[A v i]

EMs Madara with Kyuubi >Bm Minato > EMS Madara without kyuubi.

 

[Champ]

Would be a great fight, but Madara it seems he can battle for days as shown I think when he asked Hashirama to kill himself. The Kyuubi chakra is probably infinite but it has to recharge it's at times, which would be Minato's downfall.

 

[ShinjuMadara]

Madara destroys, low diff

 

[NSUNSR]

Ems Madara with Kyuubi >>> Ems Madara without Kyuubi > BM Minato >>> Base MInatoU_U.

 

[madvictory]

It's BSM. Just like it was possible with Naruto, it would be possible with Minato with the help of the frogs, so shut up and stop changing the words of my very own thread.

 

[lanakui8]

BM Naruto could block the V1 Juubi's attacks, and could fire off bijuudamas that were almost as big as PS itself. He alone could beat Madara with just PS.

Now you've given Minato the same powers that Naruto had enhanced by sennin mode and the ability to teleport himself and his opponent's attacks?

Minato wrecks Madara, teleports

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powered up by sennin mode right into Madara's PS and it's gg.

So, shuriken is stronger than Bijuu Dama, right [

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The hachibi's tails are far less durable than its actual body, and its tails have never taken a direct hit from a bijuudama. 50% Kurama doesn't even bleed when he gets hit by SM FRS which are tiers beyond tiers more powerful than giant shurikens.

Again, your analogy doesn't make sense. Being able to tank an explosion doesn't mean you are resistant to being cut. The two don't even begin to compare to eachother in terms of offence. One is vaporising while the other is slicing. Vaporising a mountain takes a lot of energy, which the Kyuubi can handle (even though it loses its most concentrated part of its body--its tails). Slicing mountains in half takes a massively concentrated shockwave which doesn't even compare to a higher energy concentrated attack, so your point remains moot.

Wait a second, since when were the tails the most concentrated part of the kyuubi's body? The tails are the most easily replacable parts of the bijuus, and we've seen by both hachibi and juubi that the tails are far weaker than the actual body.

Next, why do you deceitfully try to play off the juubilaser as a mere mountain vaporizer? It easily overpowered 9 mountain vaporizers without even losing power, and we've seen it vaporize an entire mountain range. At the absolute least, it vaporizes 9 mountains, most likely it vaporizes multiple mountain ranges.

Cutting a mountain in half is simply removing or destroying a section of the mountain, normal bijuudamas vaporize the entire thing, the surrounding area and leave a crater, so no, even across the shockwave's AoE, it is not more concentrated than a bijuudama's explosion. The only thing you could argue is that a direct hit of the sword would be more concentrated than a bijuudama's explosion, however that still wouldn't put it on the level of penetrating power as the Juubi's laser since the laser didn't explode when it hit the tails either.

Until the avatar shows extreme penetrative durability, I have no reason to believe he can tank penetrative attacks, let alone the most powerful preventative attack in the manga.

It's the other way around. Unless proven otherwise, the avatar doesn't have some kind of weakeness to penetrating attacks just because you haven't seen the avatar go up against a penetrative attack. You have been given no reason to believe such is true, thus you have no reason to believe it to be that way while on the otherhand you've been given explicit evidence that a PS slash is on the same level of power as a bijuudama and the avatar has blocked an attack that's levels above both.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Madara Uchiha, high diff. PS is too much.

 

[Tobby17]

Bsm beats madara without kyuubi

 

[VongolaX]

Minato stomps