BSM does have a feats

[Sennin of Logic]

The Juubi's weakness being Natural Energy doesn't mean that all its attacks use Natural Energy. The manga stated that since the Juubi is pretty much natural energy, it can be hurt by natural energy. Its already an undeniable fact that the Juubi uses chakra as mentioned by Kurama, the fact that the Bijuu who exist from being made out of the Juubi's chakra, and the fact that the Juubi is the progenitor of all chakra.

You saying that chakra isn't used in its attacks make absolutely zero sense. Bijuu Dama requires a raito of 8:2 Black to White chakra. How can the Juubi use Bijuu Dama if it only uses pure Natural Energy? Which ISN'T Chakra.

There should be no debate here. Its a fact that the Juubi has chakra and uses it for its attacks. Nor is a Rasengan of all things going to be stronger than 4 Bijuu Dama. That just makes no sense. At all.

I'm not arguing this anymore. I'm tired, and sick(I even puked last night) and I'm most likely right.

 

[Smd]

The Juubi's weakness being Natural Energy doesn't mean that all its attacks use Natural Energy. The manga stated that since the Juubi is pretty much natural energy, it can be hurt by natural energy. Its already an undeniable fact that the Juubi uses chakra as mentioned by Kurama, the fact that the Bijuu who exist from being made out of the Juubi's chakra, and the fact that the Juubi is the progenitor of all chakra.

You saying that chakra isn't used in its attacks make absolutely zero sense. Bijuu Dama requires a raito of 8:2 Black to White chakra. How can the Juubi use Bijuu Dama if it only uses pure Natural Energy? Which ISN'T Chakra.

There should be no debate here. Its a fact that the Juubi has chakra and uses it for its attacks. Nor is a Rasengan of all things going to be stronger than 4 Bijuu Dama. That just makes no sense. At all.

this is a wank thread.

i guess im the only one who noticed "PS cant compare to BSM Rasengan "

even tho it was the combined efforts of minato+naruto

 

[KidGamer65]

I'm not arguing this anymore. I'm tired, and sick(I even puked last night) and I'm most likely right.

Despite manga disagreeing with you on multiple accounts? Ok then pal. Believe whatever ridiculous nonsense you want to believe.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Lol at SMD for negging me for making this thread.XD To bad I got at least 4 pos reps!:bye: Thanks guys!

 

[Smd]

Lol at SMD for negging me for making this thread.XD To bad I got at least 4 pos reps!:bye: Thanks guys!

i negged you cause of what you said.

" PS cant compare to BSM naruto Rasengen"

Even tho PS=>Bujji

And the scans you post were Minato and Naruto effort.

thats why i negged you.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

i negged you cause of what you said.

" PS cant compare to BSM naruto Rasengen"

Even tho PS=>Bujji

And the scans you post were Minato and Naruto effort.

thats why i negged you.

Read more carefully. I said Naruto contributed more than half of the attack. I never claimed it was from Naruto exclusively. Also, PS=biju, but Naruto combined sage power with biju power, so he no longer falls into that category.

 

[Tobby17]

or Obito is simply weak against Senjustu attacks :|

 

[Sennin of Logic]

or Obito is simply weak against Senjustu attacks :|

As I've said before, the reason Obito is weak against senjutsu attacks is because it's using what's something that's in the juubi in the first place. Meaning Obito was weak to the TBBs, which he withstood. In other words, the weakness isn't why the orb cracked. The idea behind the senjutsu weakness is that it'll actually hit Obito. It's not magically weakening his techniques.

 

[BlacLord™]

More like Minato's feat since it's his rasengan. Naruto only added sennin attack to it :|

This is true, it was a combination attack with the power of both Naruto and Minato's power.

 

[Dantee]

Maybe you didn't see that Minato was also in the manga panel. Sorry BSM is pretty much featless.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Maybe you didn't see that Minato was also in the manga panel. Sorry BSM is pretty much featless.

Why is it so hard for people to read? I already addressed that by saying that Naruto contributed more than half of the attack's power.

 

[Dantee]

Why is it so hard for people to read? I already addressed that by saying that Naruto contributed more than half of the attack's power.

Even if that is necessarily true or (made up) Naruto still needed Minato to create the attack. It was a team effort plus he was using the full power of both halfs of the Kyuubi which Naruto doesn't possess yet. These two factors alone gave a great power boost to Narutos attack to write it off as Narutos feat alone is bias. BSM is absolutely featless with just Naruto as himself.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Even if that is necessarily true or (made up) Naruto still needed Minato to create the attack. It was a team effort plus he was using the full power of both halfs of the Kyuubi which Naruto doesn't possess yet. These two factors alone gave a great power boost to Narutos attack to write it off as Narutos feat alone is bias. BSM is absolutely featless with just Naruto as himself.

Don't put words into my mouth. I'm saying that Naruto by himself can use most of the power by himself that that attack had, not that he can replicate it by himself.

 

[BlacLord™]

Don't put words into my mouth. I'm saying that Naruto by himself can use most of the power by himself that that attack had, not that he can replicate it by himself.

How can he though? He's only got 50% of the Kyuubi, no matter how you dress it, BSM is featless.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

How can he though? He's only got 50% of the Kyuubi, no matter how you dress it, BSM is featless.

He's got 50% enhanced by natural energy, meaning that it was his sage chakra added to the ransengan, which makes him add the majority of the power behind the attack. The only other conclusions are.


1. Naruto's BSM doesn't enhance power, which is absurd since that'd mean that full Kurama could pull of these crazy feats, which is impossible.


2, They both contributed equal amounts of chakra, and then Naruto enhanced it with sage chakra, in which Naruto by himself has attacks half as powerful as shown.


I believe that Naruto contributed more than half, but either's debatable.

 

[BlacLord™]

He's got 50% enhanced by natural energy, meaning that it was his sage chakra added to the ransengan, which makes him add the majority of the power behind the attack. The only other conclusions are.


1. Naruto's BSM doesn't enhance power, which is absurd since that'd mean that full Kurama could pull of these crazy feats, which is impossible.


2, They both contributed equal amounts of chakra, and then Naruto enhanced it with sage chakra, in which Naruto by himself has attacks half as powerful as shown.


I believe that Naruto contributed more than half, but either's debatable.

It's the latter. Minato told Naruto to add senjutsu chakra after the giant Rasengan had been formed.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

It's the latter. Minato told Naruto to add senjutsu chakra after the giant Rasengan had been formed.

OK. It's debatable. The feat is that Naruto>=half the attack used against Obito.